£8.10 on a flipping chicken!

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Went to Lidl yesterday to spend as little as possible on a small shop to get us through the weekend. Needed a chicken for Sunday dinner and as a vegetarian I didn’t want to hang around looking at them all. I was sure I picked one from the shelf labelled as £3.75. DM has just informed me that it was a free range fancy chicken costing £8.10 on the label! Already in the oven. It had better be a bloody gorgeous chicken for the people eating it! I don’t even benefit!

What’s been your most costly shopping mistake? Make me feel less stupid please!

Absolute nonsense and I never said that. My cat does catch mice and I try and save them, not always successfully. I'm just making the point that if I hadn't adopted him as a stray he'd still be out there catching (even more mice). But you go ahead and twist my words if it makes you feel happy.

Yep.typical, mums net" I" can afford to spend £15 on a chicken ,those that can't wiil.just have to eat lentils attitude .
Why should the pleb,s enjoy some meat 🙄

I bought a chicken here in Germany last week .It was a Bio or organic chicken in Aldi and /i paid Euro 16 .80 for it ,

That might be so but that ain't happening anytime time soon what do.you suggest the less privileged do in the meantime ?

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I’ve been vegetarian for more than 30 years. Way way way before it was easy. I copped a LOT of shit for it before most of the people who are currently five-minute vegans were even born.

I ‘pander’ to meat eaters. I live with them. And I do not sit in judgment on them. I recognize the enormous privilege I enjoy of being able to make ethical choices about food; I’m the first generation in my family to have the means to do so. And I accept the freedom
of others to make their own choices.

Bit touchy aren't you @SallyWD And I didn't twist your words, I illustrated how funny they were - as you are deluding yourself into thinking your cat never (or rarely) harms anything. Of course he does. He's a cat!

There's no need to be so angry. I am just illustrating the rather hilarious fact that someone asked 'why do you have a cat, they kill loads of innocent creatures.. birds, mice, spiders, flies, butterflies etc,' and you came back with #notmycat.

You're deluded if you think your cat is only catching the creatures it brings in to you. And you can get said creature from your cat, but it will still very likely be harmed/damaged, and not survive in the wild. Your cat will also be killing things you never know about.

Have a cat by all means, but don't act like your cat never (or rarely) harms anything. They all do, and suggesting otherwise is farcical.

You need to quote or point out the part you’re referring to.

No thanks I can't afford free range or organic but I like it so Will.continue to.buy it
How dare the less privileged eat meat .

It does seem very patronising to assume that people on a lower income don't care about animal welfare. It's shit to have limited choices, and of course the richer you are the more choices you have.

Not to mention the implication poorer folk also do not care about human life either.

Some of the comments here are outrageous.

I see it as a personal choice that you have to square with your own conscience. I'm not a fan of the Jack Monroe approach of telling the poor that they can actually eat for a tenner a week. I think the answer is better wages and actually, wholesale reform of land ownership, which would free up a much larger portion of wages for food.

But how you get by in the meantime is up to you. I would like to buy organic more often, but I view it as too expensive. I've been vegetarian for almost 40 years and I won't buy eggs unless I can buy decent eggs. I've never earned more than £30k a year and earn considerably less than that now. But me personally, I'm happy eating many of the dishes that people mock here. To me, lentils and beans are good sources of protein that I enjoy. If they're not for you and you prefer cheap chicken, well that's up to you how you square that with your conscience. I can't do it, so I don't.

But where I came in originally with this thread was the OP thinking this was something that was ha-ha lighthearted and funny. And it was more to point out that it isn't funny, rather than to castigate anyone for doing what they can to feed themselves and their family.

@RoyalGala "
You need to quote or point out the part you’re referring to."
I can't. It's been deleted. How very, very tedious.

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Have you seen what a £3.75 chicken looks like when it’s alive? I wouldn’t want that in my mouth. I’m vegan, DD and DH eat meat and he’s bought cheap chicken in the past with something extra inside- no not giblets. He will eat anything but that chicken ended up in the bin. We only get organic, free range but they aren’t free range due to bird flu? Not sure. Just glad I don’t eat it! The quality of our food has diminished so much.

But I answered you, asked you to back up your statement, you didn’t and instead told me to educate myself.
You then launched a personal attack on a group of people using profanity and basically tarring them with the same brush. I wonder why it got deleted 🤔

Erm... But I haven't actually said my cat doesn't catch animals. I've said a couple of times on this thread that he does catch mice (and very occasionally birds) so I don't really understand why you say I'm deluded and denying he hunts? Bit strange.
I also acknowledged that cats harm wildlife and said we shouldn't be deliberately breeding them to the extent that we do. I say that as a cat lover! There are too many cats.

@RoyalGala RoyalGala-you can't possibly have though I was being serious! And sorry- profanity? Where??

Vegetarians and vegans who own cats and dogs are the very epitome of ridiculousness. There is no sensible explanation or justification imo. Same goes for eco snobs who will not fly (and judge others for doing so) and have more than two children, or own pets. Silly and hypocritical

I would argue there's too many humans actually. WE are the biggest killers and are the biggest menace on earth. Cats - and other animals we berate for being killers cannot help it/don't know better. Humans SHOULD know better, and yet they kill and maim and wreck the plant and make various species extinct.

@FinallyPeakedNow "Vegetarians and vegans who own cats and dogs are the very epitome of ridiculousness."

Why?

Serious about what? You need to quote or highlight what you are referring to.
What do you mean where, your post was deleted so it’s not visible anymore 🤦🏻‍♀️

I can't really believe that I need to explain this, but here we go:

Because by being vegan or vegetarian they are presumably taking a stand on the consumption of meat due to concerns either about ecological destruction or animal welfare. By owning carnivorous pets, they are encouraging the destruction of natural habitat and or the poor treatment of animals reared for meat in order to feed their pets the very same things they have decided are morally unacceptable for them to consume.

I simply cannot wrap my head around the doublethink needed here. Perhaps I am in a minority.

I mean, all of us are hypocrites. Even the ones with their £20 farm-reared chickens from their butcher.

It is basically impossible to live a truly impact-free life in today's society. People care about the things THEY think are important. For some, its meat welfare. For others, its making sure they only use brands that do not animal test (because it feels like the majority of them do.) For me, I am trying really fucking hard to not buy plastic anymore.

This we agree on (which is why I previously said humans cause far more ecological damage than cats). But if we know cats are harming local wildlife then we shouldn't be breeding them to the extent that we do. There are plenty of cats who need homes.
But yes - there's a hell of a lot more damage caused by humans than any other animal. Cats are the tip of the iceberg.

Pet cats are simply an extension of human lifestyle. They would not exist independently, so it's stupid to say 'cats do less damage than humans.' They are part of the destruction of the planet caused directly by humans, just as the animals we rear in order to slaughter them to feed to our cats are also part of it.

If we got rid of cats then the human damage would be reduced considerably. But no one is willing to do that, most would rather see the planet burn while arguing about whether paying £3 for a chicken is a human right, or making life a misery for whoever does the cooking while feeding their cats a menagerie of tortured large mammals (while tutting indulgently at them for decimating the local wildlife).

If you buy £25 organic chicken to eat for yourself then you ought to do the same for your cats and if you don't, I don't get it.

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