Do you still trust the police?

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When I got with my dh 11 years ago, he would laugh when I said I trusted the police. That they were someone in a position of power, who I felt I could trust. He never tried to sway me, just said, ok..you’ll see.

Now…I don’t. After everything they has happened over the last few years..Rotherham, Wayne Couzens, the girl with autism and other shit like that, I do not trust them at all.

No. I haven't really trusted them ever since a minor road incident years ago (which I think they made up, actually, as my 2 passengers didn't notice it either). They pulled me over, and I said, "I'm sorry, I didn't notice that." They said, "That's the right thing to say - 'I'm sorry, Officer'," and that's when I realised that I'd definitely done nothing wrong and they were on a power trip.

So that was trivial, but what with the many, many incidents of rapists, murderers, racists, domestic abusers in the police - not to mention reports of bullying within the force, no I don't trust them.

And I haven't had much reason to call the police over the years, but you only have to read the experiences on here of the police not taking action over burglaries, road accidents, violence, etc., even when the criminal is known....well you wonder what the point of the police is. (Oh, of course, they're there to protect transpeople against the devastating crime of misgendering ).

You aren't even happy with the way victims of crime are behaving when taken advantage of, you sound unhappy with others and life.

Head. Wall. Bang

Is that what you wish you could do to me?

Maybe you should have taken my advice and your own? And you wouldn't feel so angry, unhappy and out of control. Control of others is no use, its impossible, you need to control yourself first, luv.

oh good grief!

I was the victim of a serious traffic collision and they couldn't be bothered to follow up on the different bits of information that several witnesses provided. They clearly couldn't be bothered with the paperwork and were desperate to go to their other duties. Moreover it took over fifteen minutes to get there, despite the accident blocking a busy road.
The incident was incredibly traumatic for me and while a prosecution wouldn't have expedited the insurance claims involved, feeling those responsible were held accountable (over and above increased premiums) would have made me feel someone cared about what I went through. As it was, the bloody process of insurance in this country makes you feel like you're being punished.

I'm not surprised . They were there for the accuser not to defend your son . Well done for you for not letting him in without a warrant . Also I would advise to say nothing when arrested until you have legal representation. Another trick they use when you get to the station is to ask you if you understand why you are here . I would say no .

Imagine what the police were like before cameras and forensics . A lot of young people don't understand what the world was like before camera phones and social media . I can see the disbelief in their faces when I tell them what I have witnessed the police say and do . The power they once had and how it went to some of their heads . I think a lot of rotten officers such as cousins and carricjk joined the force many years ago.

Not at all.

The question is interesting. It carries an implication that some people did previously trust the police. It disguises the people who haven't ever trusted the police - and there are a fair few of those.

I may be biased, of course. I grew up knowing a lot of police officers.

@CuratedAndRated The institutional racism and misogyny is definitely from the top down, and always has been. But I think the reason there feels like there are fewer good officers now is due to a lack of training and a change in entry standards.
And forces vary region to region. At work we deal with 4 forces and there are marked differences.

Oh this definitely. The introduction of body worn video has made a marked difference. Although you'd be amazed at what still gets said and done!!! Makes you wonder just how bad it was before

It's a NO from me. I have been lied to and disregarded by the police.

Again - it goes back to how much you trust people in organisations.

Would I be justified in telling my son never to trust female teachers and certainly never be left in a room with them or go on a field trip. Just look at Candice Barber for example.

That's a ridiculous comparison. The police have power over the lives of all of us whether we be guilty of anything or not. That is why they have become regarded with suspicion by people, like me, who would otherwise have no bad opinion of them. The sheer quantity of corruption and/or misguided convictions that we know of should alert anyone who can think to the fact that all is not well with the police force.

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Teachers have a responsibility over their pupils and are in a position of trust. There are loads of cases where teachers have abused this position of trust and abused their pupils - often sexually. Candice Barber is just one example of a teacher doing this. So, she would we not trust teachers anymore either?

Or are you OK to trust teachers, just not police?
And how about nurses with children/babies - Beverley Allit?

Also the public can also be proper pricks.

So can many police officers. Recent events also indicate there is a culture of even the better ones keeping schtum about red flag behaviour shown by their colleagues. Wayne Couzens, for example?

A 'don't muddy the waters, don't let the side down' attitude definitely exists.

Also the public can also be proper pricks.

this. In spades.

And generally when someone is a prick, Uk police don’t get out guns or bats and start doing US / SA style policing.

We have a lot to be thankful for. But if you haven’t experienced other countries policing, then you probably don’t grasp that

as an institution it is corrupt, racist, misogynistic and bends the law to suit itself and the government.

Absolutely agree. Do I trust them? No. And for the Met + Essex police it's no multiplied by 1,000.

I don’t really get your point.

We leave our children day in and day out with teachers.
We leave our health in the hands of doctors in times of need

I regard this as having “power” over my life

there are far too many awful ones with many who belong in jail.

The way things are, would you be surprised if some haven't been there already? Seems they scrape the barrel when recruiting, if recent events are anything to go by.

Not at all.

they need to assume that psychos apply, find through psychological evaluation and stop offering them jobs.

Absolutely right. It is open house for those who want to chuck their weight around and have a power complex (mainly directed at the soft target general public rather than those who have committed an actual crime). The recruitment process has been shite for years - and having a degree/wanting to be fast tracked doesn't disqualify you from being an arsehole with no common sense, so they need to bear this in mind, too.

...So you were so shocked you..... exchanged a few messages with him and blocked him in the end. Yes, I can quite see how someone would do that if they were so offended by the officer's behaviour (not). Meanwhile, back in the real world...(is it school hols. now?)