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Cornettoninja · 20/07/2023 07:28

hollyblueivy · 20/07/2023 06:58

Maybe now he has an insight into what he has put countless others through without so much as a second thought.

And, on the other side of this, will no doubt do again. I’d wager he will learn precisely fuck all and convince himself of why he’s different.

The only real difference is that more people will be aware of the hypocrisy when his name is spotted associated with any reports.

Frankola · 20/07/2023 08:04

Given that he basically admitted it last night on TV I think we have our answers.

I really don't like the appetite that social media currently seems to have for witch hunting celebrities and professionals in the public eye. However, considering that Dan Wootton is the ring leader for cancel culture, and the first person demanding others be sacked etc I expect many will feel satisfied today to see all this unfolding. There is something of poetic justice in all of this.

His speech on TV last night was beyond hypocrisy. Accusing people of a hate campaign. Saying he's been targeted. It's exactly what he's done with countless others. But now the shoe is on the other foot he isn't happy.

vera99 · 20/07/2023 08:14

Looking more and more that us tricoteuses need to get the wool in .....

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/jul/19/news-uk-hires-lawyers-to-look-at-claims-against-former-sun-columnist

Rupert Murdoch’s News UK asked staff to contact its most senior lawyer if they have any information regarding the claims. They promised that all information would be treated in confidence, offered counselling services to anyone affected, and asked employees not to talk to journalists while inquiries were under way. Employees were told: “The matters reported are obviously very serious and include allegations that certain actions of Mr Wootton may have affected some members of staff at the Sun.”

A source at News UK said the company had also employed external legal counsel to advise and assist with its investigation

News UK hires lawyers to look at claims against former Sun columnist

Dan Wootton accused of offering Sun colleagues tens of thousands of pounds for sexual material

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/jul/19/news-uk-hires-lawyers-to-look-at-claims-against-former-sun-columnist

vera99 · 20/07/2023 08:15

“The Guardian has spoken to 7 current & former Sun employees who say they received emails from Martin Branning…All claim they were offered large sums of money in return for pictures.” Dan Wootton’s ex-boyfriend has publicly linked him to the pseudonym.

Roussette · 20/07/2023 08:34

I think if NewsUK are hiring lawyers to investigate these claims, we can say there is something in these reports.

I would love to know what Wootton classes as 'errors of judgement'....

Xeren · 20/07/2023 09:01

Byline Times was the first to break the PPE scandal way before any of the larger newspapers did. To think they are on a par with The Sun or Dan Wootton is hysterical.

People didn’t like Boris Johnson. He is a media darling who’s friends with a lot of journalists and was portrayed and marketed as some loveable buffoon when really he’s a grubby liar.

The same media that rolled out military generals on the news to say Corbyn was a national threat and herald the end of the world, but Johnson dining with Russians after giving his security the slip, ‘forgetting his phone pin’ funnelling public money to his mistress when mayor of london, having a PROVEN history blatant racism was all just shrugged off as ‘just Boris’.

Anyone who supports Boris, The Sun, Dan Wootton and think Leveson 2 or phone hackers turned whistleblowers are the dark arts are Dan Wootton’s useful idiots.

You know who the real Dark Arts is? Rupert Murdoch.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 20/07/2023 09:05

Katrinawaves · 19/07/2023 22:54

I find your defence of Byline bonkers! Guys like Evans and Johnson will never be able to work for any of the mainstream media again. They were swept away as part of the clean up post Leveson and rightly so as they are criminals. That clean up is the only reason why they are working for Byline and writing the kinds of articles they do as they are literally unemployable as journalists in any other regard.

If you want to buy their schtick that’s entirely up to you but don’t kid yourself that these are journalists with any integrity or moral code, or that the stuff they peddle is likely to be more believable than what you read in mainstream media or see on new broadcasters of record such as BBC and ITN

Dan Evans admitted wrongdoing, the only one to do so, and gave information willingly to the police and prosecution regarding hacking at his former employers. The judge called him unique in that he was the only journalist willing to do so, without being given immunity, and he has now reformed and commits time to exposing press corruption. Evans doesn't want to work for the mainstream media! He turned his back on it in disgust. He was actually one of the people involved in cleaning up, not one swept away. He willingly gave evidence.

Xeren · 20/07/2023 09:06

Frankola · 20/07/2023 08:04

Given that he basically admitted it last night on TV I think we have our answers.

I really don't like the appetite that social media currently seems to have for witch hunting celebrities and professionals in the public eye. However, considering that Dan Wootton is the ring leader for cancel culture, and the first person demanding others be sacked etc I expect many will feel satisfied today to see all this unfolding. There is something of poetic justice in all of this.

His speech on TV last night was beyond hypocrisy. Accusing people of a hate campaign. Saying he's been targeted. It's exactly what he's done with countless others. But now the shoe is on the other foot he isn't happy.

This! Dan Wootton is the ring leader of cancel culture. The newspapers he works for are the ring leaders of cancel culture.

I still remember that front page of the Daily Mail that plastered the faces of 3 judges and labeled them “Enemies of the People”.

savory · 20/07/2023 09:08

Xeren · 20/07/2023 09:01

Byline Times was the first to break the PPE scandal way before any of the larger newspapers did. To think they are on a par with The Sun or Dan Wootton is hysterical.

People didn’t like Boris Johnson. He is a media darling who’s friends with a lot of journalists and was portrayed and marketed as some loveable buffoon when really he’s a grubby liar.

The same media that rolled out military generals on the news to say Corbyn was a national threat and herald the end of the world, but Johnson dining with Russians after giving his security the slip, ‘forgetting his phone pin’ funnelling public money to his mistress when mayor of london, having a PROVEN history blatant racism was all just shrugged off as ‘just Boris’.

Anyone who supports Boris, The Sun, Dan Wootton and think Leveson 2 or phone hackers turned whistleblowers are the dark arts are Dan Wootton’s useful idiots.

You know who the real Dark Arts is? Rupert Murdoch.

Absolutely very well said , and the redoubtable ex-BBC senior investigative reporter John Sweeney makes documentaries for them. His latest one is superb. They have multiple decades of collective experience at the heart of British mainstream media. Wootton needs to be very afraid I'm convinced they will have receipts to back up their allegations.

The Eastern Front | Documentary Trailer

Watch The Eastern Front, a brand new documentary from John Sweeney & Byline TV covering war crimes, torture and conflict in Eastern Ukraine.Watch the film he...

https://youtu.be/tXU8QU0k3Mk

Rhondaa · 20/07/2023 10:09

'Wootton needs to be very afraid I'm convinced they will have receipts to back up their allegations'

We will have to wait and see. Surely if anyone had 'receipts' he'd be suspended pending investigations.

Maybe he had mh problems and can't be held responsible for any allegations.

vera99 · 20/07/2023 10:21

Rhondaa · 20/07/2023 10:09

'Wootton needs to be very afraid I'm convinced they will have receipts to back up their allegations'

We will have to wait and see. Surely if anyone had 'receipts' he'd be suspended pending investigations.

Maybe he had mh problems and can't be held responsible for any allegations.

Lol - he can't play that card having so frequently rubbished it over the years - especially in the case of his bête noire - Prince Harry , the allegations at the moment suggest blackmail and sexual offences which if proved true would lead to a criminal trial and a custodial sentence. If there is documentary evidence then News Corp and GBNews will cut him loose in the blink of an unblinking eye.

Looking like he has taken a leaf out of the Bannon/Trump playbook.

Steve Bannon once famously declared that the way to win in politics is to “flood the zone with shit.”

As it turns out, that was his master plan to beat his criminal rap, too.

The right-wing political firebrand brought more than his baffling multi-collar style to his criminal trial this week; he brought his trademark conspiratorial whataboutism, inviting the jury down a rabbit hole into a land where they must doubt much of what they learned in the Washington, D.C., courtroom, including evidence they saw with their own eyes.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/epzxqj/steve-bannon-jan-6-trial-arguments

Steve Bannon’s Stay-Out-of-Jail Strategy: ‘Flood the Zone With Shit’

Steve Bannon’s lawyers invited the jury in his contempt of Congress trial down a rabbit hole to a land where they must doubt everything.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/epzxqj/steve-bannon-jan-6-trial-arguments

Rhondaa · 20/07/2023 10:38

'Lol - he can't play that card having so frequently rubbished it over the years - especially in the case of his bête noire - Prince Harry , the allegations at the moment suggest blackmail and sexual offences which if proved true would lead to a criminal trial and a custodial sentence.'

Are you saying one cannot have mh problems just because they have pointed out other's allegations? That's funny because didn't Mr Huw Edwards report on the Schofield scandal?

'The allegations at the moment' are just that, allegations. Surely if there was any evidence he'd be either suspended/off on 'the sick' or on gardening leave?

TooBigForMyBoots · 20/07/2023 10:45

Maybe he doesn't have MH problems and is just a dirty, skanky hypocrite.

Roussette · 20/07/2023 11:20

'The allegations at the moment' are just that, allegations. Surely if there was any evidence he'd be either suspended/off on 'the sick' or on gardening leave?

No. GBN aka Murdoch are sheltering him at the moment.
They'll cut him loose soon enough if more comes to light. Everyone seems to be lawyering up, so I doubt this is just speculation

Rhondaa · 20/07/2023 11:44

Roussette · 20/07/2023 11:20

'The allegations at the moment' are just that, allegations. Surely if there was any evidence he'd be either suspended/off on 'the sick' or on gardening leave?

No. GBN aka Murdoch are sheltering him at the moment.
They'll cut him loose soon enough if more comes to light. Everyone seems to be lawyering up, so I doubt this is just speculation

And you know this how, got a hotline to Murdoch?

Anyway, have you any more info about DW abusing Caroline Flack because all you've shared so far is an article he wrote in support of her, a valentines card that he didn't even write and weve seen a link from a pp that Caroline's ex was actually jailed for harassing DW!

There seems some gaps in your evidence against him, but I'm happy to be corrected its just Google doesn't show up any of this rampant bullying.

Roussette · 20/07/2023 11:53

Rhondaa · 20/07/2023 11:44

And you know this how, got a hotline to Murdoch?

Anyway, have you any more info about DW abusing Caroline Flack because all you've shared so far is an article he wrote in support of her, a valentines card that he didn't even write and weve seen a link from a pp that Caroline's ex was actually jailed for harassing DW!

There seems some gaps in your evidence against him, but I'm happy to be corrected its just Google doesn't show up any of this rampant bullying.

And I prefer not to engage with you, given your posts and your deliberate picking up on everything I say, as opposed to others on this thread.

I quite prepared for you to crow over that.
You did post about my acknowledgement and acceptance of getting the Valentine card wrong, so why are you bringing this up again?

It's funny, I actually thought, despite being on completely different sides on just about everything, we had some sort of respect for each others views over the years, but that changed a month or so ago for some reason and you singling me out for every sentence I post illustrates that.

Maybe choose someone else to challenge? Because I'm not engaging.

Rhondaa · 20/07/2023 12:16

Roussette · 20/07/2023 11:53

And I prefer not to engage with you, given your posts and your deliberate picking up on everything I say, as opposed to others on this thread.

I quite prepared for you to crow over that.
You did post about my acknowledgement and acceptance of getting the Valentine card wrong, so why are you bringing this up again?

It's funny, I actually thought, despite being on completely different sides on just about everything, we had some sort of respect for each others views over the years, but that changed a month or so ago for some reason and you singling me out for every sentence I post illustrates that.

Maybe choose someone else to challenge? Because I'm not engaging.

So there's no evidence of him bullying CF?

Oh don't engage then. When it gets too difficult folk tend to do the fingers in the ears and the 'la la la' thing.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 20/07/2023 12:19

@Janiie once someone acknowledges a simple mistake, let it go

StarbucksSmarterSister · 20/07/2023 12:37

Are you saying one cannot have mh problems just because they have pointed out other's allegations? That's funny because didn't Mr Huw Edwards report on the Schofield scandal?

reporting on a story is not the same though is it?

Do show where Huw Edwards publicly expressed an opinion about Schofield.

SerafinasGoose · 20/07/2023 12:39

The phrase that springs to mind is 'hoist by your own petard'.

According to Wootton social media is an evil, virtual witch-hunting tool now. He's a poor, badly done-to, ill-treated victim - now.

It's a different story when he's using the same platforms to hound others. Lily Allen claims on Twitter he had her in his sights for 15 years, meticulously documenting every twist and turn of her substance addiction. Other names she mentions in that same context are Peaches Geldof, Caroline Flack and Amy Winehouse. Wootton has been involved in acrimonious litigation on numerous occasions - including with Flack's former fiance. He's relentlessly pursued Meghan Markle.

On Schofield and Edwards I have no comment to make, since their conduct has - probably rightly - seen their prior employment terminated and rendered them unemployable. The broadcasting establishment at last seems to have understood that they cannot get away with rugsweeping that behaviour any longer. It's been a long time coming.

I'm not commenting on particular allegations against Wootton. Criminal ones need to be dealt with by due process - if his actions fall short of criminal but are still unacceptable as with Schofield, he will likely still fall on his professional sword for it. But that's an aside. At no point has Wootton ever required unassailable evidence in order to pursue his vendettas against others; not that this would in any way have justified his crusades against any of these people. He's now getting a small taste of what it feels like to be on the receiving end.

Is he worthy of sympathy? Well, fuck that. You reap what you sow.

TooBigForMyBoots · 20/07/2023 12:41

There's a lot of tetchy Tories about today.😆

Roussette · 20/07/2023 12:49

SerafinasGoose · 20/07/2023 12:39

The phrase that springs to mind is 'hoist by your own petard'.

According to Wootton social media is an evil, virtual witch-hunting tool now. He's a poor, badly done-to, ill-treated victim - now.

It's a different story when he's using the same platforms to hound others. Lily Allen claims on Twitter he had her in his sights for 15 years, meticulously documenting every twist and turn of her substance addiction. Other names she mentions in that same context are Peaches Geldof, Caroline Flack and Amy Winehouse. Wootton has been involved in acrimonious litigation on numerous occasions - including with Flack's former fiance. He's relentlessly pursued Meghan Markle.

On Schofield and Edwards I have no comment to make, since their conduct has - probably rightly - seen their prior employment terminated and rendered them unemployable. The broadcasting establishment at last seems to have understood that they cannot get away with rugsweeping that behaviour any longer. It's been a long time coming.

I'm not commenting on particular allegations against Wootton. Criminal ones need to be dealt with by due process - if his actions fall short of criminal but are still unacceptable as with Schofield, he will likely still fall on his professional sword for it. But that's an aside. At no point has Wootton ever required unassailable evidence in order to pursue his vendettas against others; not that this would in any way have justified his crusades against any of these people. He's now getting a small taste of what it feels like to be on the receiving end.

Is he worthy of sympathy? Well, fuck that. You reap what you sow.

Great post, I agree 100%

This...
"Wotton also urged people to ignore the “cesspit” of Twitter: “Social media has become a race to the bottom. Pile-ons are now the way to cancel a person. Our country is better than that, we must be – that’s why GB News exists."

Ironic given he is all over Twitter like a pustule ridden rash.

MrsSlocombesCat · 20/07/2023 13:01

CarlosAlcaraz · 18/07/2023 17:12

I really didn’t need to see his vile face!

MrsSlocombesCat · 20/07/2023 13:04

dick27 · 18/07/2023 19:10

Utterly fascinating on why he left NZ in the first place too...young researcher and older on air colleague you say??? https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news-old/features/647528/Cor-Our-Dans-a-red-hot-showbiz-star

Poor Helen, I bet she’s cringing now!

SugarRaye · 20/07/2023 14:00

Iwantcakeeveryday · 20/07/2023 09:05

Dan Evans admitted wrongdoing, the only one to do so, and gave information willingly to the police and prosecution regarding hacking at his former employers. The judge called him unique in that he was the only journalist willing to do so, without being given immunity, and he has now reformed and commits time to exposing press corruption. Evans doesn't want to work for the mainstream media! He turned his back on it in disgust. He was actually one of the people involved in cleaning up, not one swept away. He willingly gave evidence.

He did that to get a reduced sentence, though. He didn't voluntarily go to the police and expose the system he said drove him to drink and drugs. He waited til he was arrested and then gave information on others in order to get a suspended sentence and avoid prison.

He could have walked away from hacking at any time but he chose to stick with it.

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