Would you have a couple of glasses of wine if your dc had a friend sleep over?

[BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz]

Dc (year 7) asked a friend to sleep over quite last minute today. Said yes of course. But usually dh and I would have a couple of glasses of wine with a movie on a Saturday night.

I've left the wine in the fridge as I'm just not sure what the "rules" are on this!

Sounds like yours is the plain sailing life if you are not aware of the chaos factor.

A couple of glasses of wine - yes. Getting pissed - no.

I'd be perfectly clear headed on 2 glasses of wine. I don't drive so if hospital was needed I'd get their parents up.

The chaos factor of one 12 year old friend? Get a grip. It's a sleepover, not a commando raid.

I read a toxicology report and two medium glasses wine in a average weight woman results in a BAC of 0.074% or just below the legal drive limit of 0.08% for England and Wales or over the legal drive limit of 0.05% for Scotland.

Impairment begins after just one glass. See chart.

So you wouldn’t be as clear headed as you perceive yourself to be.

How to say you have no idea what chaos factor is without saying it.

God a sleepover is one thing guaranteed to drive me to drink. It's the only way I can get through it. Pop out for more just to make it bearable.

Sorry mentioning chaos factor on a thread about a couple of glasses of wine and a 12 year old from across the road sleeping over is one of the funniest things I've read on Mumsnet in 21 years!! 🤣🤣🤣

No I would want to have a complete cleat head minding someone else's child.

I wouldn't.

It's harder to relax and enjoy it knowing that the buggers are still going to be awake at 3am.

And it's more fun to sleep properly for a few hours so you're guaranteed to wake up and find at least one of them asleep in the cat's bed at 6am.

That might have just been my youngest and her best mate, though. Maybe others have slightly less chaotic good in their lives.

Sorry mentioning chaos factor on a thread about a couple of glasses of wine and a 12 year old from across the road sleeping over is one of the funniest things I've read on Mumsnet in 21 years!! 🤣🤣🤣

Exactly ... MN is like a dystopian fantasy world sometimes.

Erm 🫤 hi 👋🏼 slightly scared to ask but..what is chaos factor?

I would and not even think about it

Ooh, go on then, enlighten us. What, precisely, do you think is going to happen, with a 12 year old staying over?

And, no, I don't know what chaos factor means. Why don't you explain to us?

No I wouldn’t personally because 2 glasses (6/8 units?) would have me well on the way to being quite merry. I also wouldn’t be that worried about not drinking

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From article:
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Yup, this sounds exactly analogous to having a 12 year old over for a sleepover.

I was simply referring to the fact that a sleepover can have random, unpredictable behavioural elements to it. Your child will not stick to their routine, nor will the visiting child.

Like flour snow angels on the kitchen floor & nail Polish spilled on carpet, or as a pp stated sleeping in the cat bed at 6am, or deciding to go star gazing and sneak out at 3am, or thinking it’s a good idea to take a bubble Bath while playing music on a charging phone sat on the side of the tub. Or scaring each other silly by watching horror films. Two 12yr olds can get up to a lot if you’re not paying attention.

No, that isn’t it.

Dear god. I have 4 x 12 year old girls plus my 10 year old son for a birthday sleepover. I've just been wishing I had alcohol to chill me out a bit. I've been remiss in not getting any in. I'm much less shouty and snarly regarding the noise when I've had a couple of glasses of wine.

I was simply referring to the fact that a sleepover can have random, unpredictable behavioural elements to it. Your child will not stick to their routine, nor will the visiting child.

That's chaos theory, Luv, not the chaos factor. If you're going to use a wildly hyperbolic allusion, at least make it the right wildly hyperbolic allusion.

Well, I never needed ended up opening it as by the time we sorted food and junk and soft drinks and movie set up I just went and lay on my bed for 2 hours for some peace

Wine tomorrow night instead!

I’d save the wine for another day. But I think most people would drink if they wanted.

Yes. I might not drink it out of a wine glass though if the child might wake up and see and tell their parent!

No, Luv, I correctly referred to it as a chaos factor in behaviour.
Chaos theory is the umbrella term for all chaotic (dynamic systems).
It’s not “wildly hyperbolic” - you have no clue.

Lots of talk about "but what if you need to drive..!"

What about people who don't drive? Could they have a drink?

Surely a taxi would suffice.