How is Huw Edwards different to Philip Schofield

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Heard this question raised on LBC this morning and was wondering the same thing.

How are the two any different? Both older men engaged with younger men, both cheating on their wives, and both claiming mental health issues post revelation.

These two old men both being weird and well out of order. Relieved that they got exposed. The Sun did good.

With people falling over themselves saying ‘it’s not illegal’. Honestly such a fucking low bar for behaviour to set.

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It really Is the lowest if course sleazy immoral behaviour isn't always illegal but my god eh!

So true

Same people really older, rich powerful man using his position to get sexual gratification from those least likely to expose him for what he is.

And Jon Sopel can get to fuck for saying all he's guilty of is a messy personal life!! I hope none of his children or grandchildren ever get caught up in another of these fuckers messy personal lives and feel as they don't have the courage to report it due to the age/power/wealth disparity or that they won't be believed or even that they're jumping on the bandwagon!

DS and DH just commented that now the names out it's not really news which has infuriated me. It's not news because it's just fucking life that these men are out there everyday getting away with it.

Nothing. Their come-uppance is their own doing.

'I’m not sure main stream media are behaving much better than the men themselves in all honesty. It’s bullying and harassment.'

They got caught (allegedly in Edward's case), of course it's highly embarrassing and their lucrative careers are over. They are being publicly shamed, I could not care less. If you use your riches and power to entice youngsters whilst playing the charade of being Mr Happily Married then it is is going to come and bite you on the arse one day.

It's not homophobic at all, regardless of whether the person without power was a man or woman it's the abuse of power yet again which is what's getting everybody new backs up.

'I’m not sure main stream media are behaving much better than the men themselves in all honesty. It’s bullying and harassment.'

^ since when is exposing someone's repugnant behaviour bullying and harassment.

What was HE's abuse of power?

He has been chatting to younger men online, he isn't their boss.

As far as I can see he's cheated on his wife (something many partners have done in the half of relationships that end in divorce in the UK), but bar that he's done nowt wrong.

He has money, they want money?

If HE did make contact with the young person via Only Fans, shouldn't we also be considering how an underage person was able to set up an account to advertise in the first place? And how did HE have the young person's phone number? I though communication happened through the site for safety reasons? Presumably OF have convinced someone somewhere that they have effective controls and checks in place in order to be a legal and safe operator. If teens can offer themselves in this way in exchange for payment for ANY reason (the alleged crack habit is a WHOLE other sad issue) it's further evidence of how out of control it is. No doubt there are much younger kids doing the same, there are plenty of 15 year olds who could easily pass for 18. I'm in no way excusing HE's 'personal choices' and the damage and upset he has caused as a married man and a father, but we are only talking about him because he is high profile and highly paid person. There are thousands of others doing the same every day. And call me a sceptic but also very convenient timing for the government and our former PM........

DeeCee71 that's it though isn't it. He has abused his position by entering into some sort of relationship with someone so much younger than him, someone with a drug addiction which makes them vulnerable to his advances.

These men don't come into other middle aged men or women, those with the courage to expose them and tell them to get fucked. They do it to people they know they can frighten and manipulate.

God I wish I had the courage I have now back in the day when the older, senior, grim fuckers at work were sexually inappropriate be it verbally or by way of unsolicited touching/groping.

'As far as I can see he's cheated on his wife (something many partners have done in the half of relationships that end in divorce in the UK), but bar that he's done nowt wrong.'

'Bar that he's doen nowt wrong' . He is 61! He allegedly has been chasing teenagers and 20yr olds for sexual images, he has told them who he is <allegedly> thus enticing them with his rich and vip status. To suggest this is just cheating and us silly billies need ro get a grip would be laughable if it wasn't so concerning. Why are you minimising this crap? 'Just cheating' would be to have a fling with someone of similar age. To allegedly give an 18yr old drug addict thousands of pounds for sexual images is far far worse.

I don’t disagree that it’s usually the wife and children who end up taking the flak and havoc and misery is wreaked on their family life. All because of the foolish actions of a bloke who can’t control himself.

And I feel the same sympathy for his wife and dc and feel the same visceral anger that middle aged women feel the world over about the antics of men.

But thinking about it, HE may not have felt free to come out when he was an adolescent in Wales forty years ago. It is hard to understand how much more liberal society has become even in the past twenty years. And when someone can’t be openly gay that might push them in to all sorts of difficult compromising situations.

And of course you are going to be depressed and have serious mh problems if you are living a lie.

And when you start getting in to the position of policing people’s sex lives… how do you do that for a start… at which level of immorality do you start policing people and do you ban Only Fans?

Don’t get me wrong, I would be happy if the entire site was ditched tbh and others like it but l also think it’s important that we live in a free society.

’Nowt wrong’

Yep

If he wants to have relationships with men, let him crack on. I don’t really care but feel bad for his wife. How about he doesn’t send creepy unwanted messages to his junior staff or seek out sexual relationships with people younger than some of his children though? Now that would be a good start.

Yes I agree with you. Very low bar to minimise and dismiss this lewd behaviour. Two 61 year old married men with a family going after teenagers. Egocentric entitled men in positions of powers who think rules and vows don't apply to them and who think they can dodge responsibility. No!

Both have behaved inappropriately in the work place to the point that others seem to have a problem.

Poor mental health is not a justification to shit on your wife and kids

Going after someone 40years your junior is creepy perv ground regardless of sex.

These seem to be difficult concepts to understand to some.

But thinking about it, HE may not have felt free to come out when he was an adolescent in Wales forty years ago. It is hard to understand how much more liberal society has become even in the past twenty years. And when someone can’t be openly gay that might push them in to all sorts of difficult compromising situations.

But thinking about it, it's 2023. So he could come out. But didn't. He knows he would have the support of employer doing that. And Schofield coming out demonstrated public support.

But yeah he didn't. Cos it was easier to buy people off an App. And pretend it's still the 1980s.

FFS, the poor homosexual having to pretend to be straight pushed to meet his needs by being an utter scumbag and using his power to get his rocks off with younger vulnerable adults.

Why couldn't he just have a closet relationship with someone his own age? Why someone younger and vulnerable? Because it's what these predators get off on that's why.

and regardless of sexuality.

People trying to frame people being disgusted at both these mens's behaviours as as homophobic 'becasue nobody would care if it was a girl' Listen to yourselves. No young person should be exploited and used for sex by someone decades older, or indeed anyone. The fact that nobody kicked off at the time about Bill Wyman and Mandy Smith and all the other poor girls - and I personally endured it into the early 2000s at work - shows how badly women and girls were treated in society - not that it is somehow worse becaue you can find examples of men doing it to boys and young men as well.

If anything, it's as if young men are more valued than young women. Young women are just seen as 'fair game' or 'after the money'. Never groomed or exploited.

I feel badly for his wife too!

If he has sent creepy inappropriate messages to his colleagues and there has been bullying or an abuse of power that is despicable and needs investigating. And obviously the BBC has a duty of care towards its employees.

I am not saying his behaviour was morally acceptable - it wasn’t - but we as a society have defined the line at which the law comes in to play and something becomes illegal.

If we as a society want him to receive more punishment than the equivalent of a public flogging in the tabloids and on sm, the loss of a forty year career and a decimated reputation, then we need to lobby our MPs and get the law changed and Only Fans and other sites like it made illegal and the purchase of sexually explicit photos illegal too.

Imho there is certainly a long over due case to argue that the laws regulating pornography which is accessible on-line to minors needs tightening significantly. But that’s a separate issue to adults buying pornographic images. Where do you want to draw the line?