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How does the BBC get out of the presenter mess?

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mids2019 · 11/07/2023 07:13

Seriously how does the BBC now go forward and what can be the conclusion to this story? The story could run for some time with on going speculation about the presenter and eventually in my opinion a name will drop.

Can there therefore be any sort of fair investigation because I think there may be too much aspirational damage now for a career to be as ed. It seems the knives the BBC sit on this the more scrutiny there is and they desperately need a conclusion?

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toomuchlaundry · 11/07/2023 09:02

If the person was on OF are the parents going after everyone who had paid their ‘child’?

If the dad had gone to the police and they have said no crime what were the BBC meant to do? Get rid of this presenter? Is he the only employee of the BBC using OF? Is it more sleazy because he is older, well known? Until it hit the media could the BBC do anything? If they found someone in senior management (similar age) was doing the same thing, would they be on dodgy ground employment law wise asking the presenter to leave but not the senior manager?

Countdowntowinter · 11/07/2023 09:02

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MissHoollie · 11/07/2023 09:02

They follow police advice and their own policies
He " retires" ie disappears .
people forget about it .
end of.

Festoonedflurryfairy · 11/07/2023 09:04

Bringonthepitchforks · 11/07/2023 08:41

I don't think the BBC has done a huge amount wrong. They have a duty of care to their staff as well as to the public especially given the name floating round has a long history of severe mental health issues.

They got a report, they investigated, the family didn't cooperate, they kept it open but not active, the family went to the papers, the BBC suspended the star and reopened the investigation. Of course certain parts of the press are baying for blood, they hate the BBC!

Yes there is definitely a vendetta against the Beeb among certain sections of the press and they are using this story to further their own campaign against them.

I personally think the Beeb, although far from perfect, does a lot that is good and it’s important to have one organisation that isn’t controlled by advertising revenue.

It is unfortunate though what with the history of Saville, Harris, and now on a different level Schofield and ?? all emanating originally from the BBC. It plays right in to the right wing populist anti-woke rhetoric very sadly.

BillyNoM8s · 11/07/2023 09:04

Whatonearth2021 · 11/07/2023 08:54

If it’s true that the parents have proof that images were transferred when the young person was 17 then why would the police say that no crime had taken place?

No idea. Here is the quote Confused

How does the BBC get out of the presenter mess?
ancientgran · 11/07/2023 09:04

RebelR · 11/07/2023 08:41

The denial from the young person is because that's exactly what grooming is. The YP thinks they did everything of their own free will, this man hasn't exploited them, they're their friend/boyfriend, they helped them out when they needed money. He understands them like their parents couldn't possibly...

Possibly there are issues within the family that made them vulnerable to grooming too, but that doesn't mean they weren't groomed.

I'd also be interested to know how the YP comes to have a lawyer.

Having worked in a police station I long ago stopped wondering how young people, some still in primary school, had their own solicitor on call. The first time I saw a vulnerable looking little kid of about ten being cautioned and replying, "I'm saying nuffink till my brief gets here" I felt like crying but you can get used to most things.

Snugglemonkey · 11/07/2023 09:05

Thearseyone · 11/07/2023 08:50

They did go to the police, they put out a statement confirming it, the police said no crime, they also went to thr bbc. Now it’s got publicity both the police and the bbc have stepped up

We don't know what happened though. Maybe nothing was done because it is not a criminal matter. I don't want police waiting time investigating a second time because the media made them if there was never any case to answer.

Countdowntowinter · 11/07/2023 09:05

I guess the story might have been convenient to cover up Boris Johnson's lack of providing his information for the covid enquiry or the story about the sexual scandal of a Tory MP?

WeWereInParis · 11/07/2023 09:05

NotTerfNorCis · 11/07/2023 09:00

What I don't get is the accused presenter is hetero, married with kids.

Well I guess he's bi - but it all seems odd.

Phillip Schofield is married (to a woman) and has children. He's not straight though.

And I don't think it's confirmed the young person is male anyway.

Saschka · 11/07/2023 09:06

Thearseyone · 11/07/2023 08:44

The parents say their life is ruined and they are now fully addicted, I see no reason to think they are just using crack recreationally, how odd.

The parents are estranged, so while it may be true “their life is ruined”, it could also be a load of cobblers.

I don’t think we know anything for definite at the moment, except this presenter has had some contact with the then-child at some point. We don’t know how old they were when it started, we don’t know what the payments were for (could be blackmail or drugs, not pictures).

RebelR · 11/07/2023 09:07

Festoonedflurryfairy · 11/07/2023 09:04

Yes there is definitely a vendetta against the Beeb among certain sections of the press and they are using this story to further their own campaign against them.

I personally think the Beeb, although far from perfect, does a lot that is good and it’s important to have one organisation that isn’t controlled by advertising revenue.

It is unfortunate though what with the history of Saville, Harris, and now on a different level Schofield and ?? all emanating originally from the BBC. It plays right in to the right wing populist anti-woke rhetoric very sadly.

The press or the government? It's not always clear there's a difference.

StefanosHill · 11/07/2023 09:07

NotTerfNorCis · 11/07/2023 09:00

What I don't get is the accused presenter is hetero, married with kids.

Well I guess he's bi - but it all seems odd.

It isn’t that surprising, other men have done this

Countdowntowinter · 11/07/2023 09:08

WeWereInParis · 11/07/2023 09:05

Phillip Schofield is married (to a woman) and has children. He's not straight though.

And I don't think it's confirmed the young person is male anyway.

Some gay men get married, maybe for their image, they want a family but prefer the same sex. Just because someone is with a female doesn't mean they are straight....Elton John married a female, Freddie Mercury - had a long relationship that was sexual at the start with a female, Phil Schofield, married with kids, etc etc

pickledandpuzzled · 11/07/2023 09:08

How many allegations of this kind, with evidence, does the Beeb receive? I would have thought telling the presenter that he needs to step back while they investigate would be the obvious thing to do, way back in May. There may have been a way to resolve this, then.

Now it's a shambles.

RegeRegeRege · 11/07/2023 09:09

Thearseyone · 11/07/2023 08:30

The law firm is dealing with privacy laws only. That’s their specialty.

You have no clue what the law firm are dealing with. And if it’s Harbottle & Lewis as speculated they specialise in a LOT more than just privacy laws.

Iwasafool · 11/07/2023 09:10

Saschka · 11/07/2023 09:06

The parents are estranged, so while it may be true “their life is ruined”, it could also be a load of cobblers.

I don’t think we know anything for definite at the moment, except this presenter has had some contact with the then-child at some point. We don’t know how old they were when it started, we don’t know what the payments were for (could be blackmail or drugs, not pictures).

You don't have to have much of an imagination to picture the two threads on here, one from the parents with people sympathising and outraged, one from the young adult complaining about controlling mum and step dad and them overstepping the mark with intercepting bank statements and accessing their phone and the sympathising and outrage.

It is incredibly hard to judge without all the information.

pickledandpuzzled · 11/07/2023 09:10

Women need to stage an intervention, IMO, and inform men that sleazy behaviour is not 'normal for men, as long as they are discreet'.

The Overton window has been shoved so far out that almost anything is acceptable. It needs a reset.

toomuchlaundry · 11/07/2023 09:10

I bet the BBC get quite a few malicious complaints

Iwasafool · 11/07/2023 09:11

Countdowntowinter · 11/07/2023 09:08

Some gay men get married, maybe for their image, they want a family but prefer the same sex. Just because someone is with a female doesn't mean they are straight....Elton John married a female, Freddie Mercury - had a long relationship that was sexual at the start with a female, Phil Schofield, married with kids, etc etc

Almost makes you wonder if people could be bi.

funnelfan · 11/07/2023 09:11

The reason the presenters job is now untenable is that they would have no credibility or objectivity when presenting on matters relating to sleaze from other sources such as the government or other presenters on other channels. Same reason Angus Deayton had to step down as presenter from HIGNFY.

AdamRyan · 11/07/2023 09:11

WeAreTheHeroes · 11/07/2023 07:46

@AdamRyan - well that argument doesn't hold water. Time and time again since time immemorial there have been high profile men cheating on their wives, etc, etc and the British public is hardly the great upholder of moral virtue. We vote for them and one of the biggest lying, philandering ones of them was PM recently with people dismissing his piss poor behaviour as not important rather than as a true indicator of his character.

I'm not sure what you mean Confused

I meant the new privacy laws are enabling men to be able to do dodgy shit with less chance of it being reported than previously.

I'm not saying men are more likely to cheat on their wives.

stanleytheflamingo · 11/07/2023 09:12

HaveYouHeardOfARoadAtlas · 11/07/2023 07:15

Well there’s photos all over Twitter with the presenter with his bum on display , trousers round his ankles. So unless it’s photoshop I’m assuming his name is pretty much out….just not in main stream media.

Police aren’t tak8ng action. I’d imagine the bbc will pay him off and officially he will “retire”.

Apparently that image is AI generated…

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 11/07/2023 09:12

Thearseyone · 11/07/2023 07:45

The sun hasn’t paid them, they have been very clear as have the parents they have received no money, they just want the man to stop giving their kid money so they can deal with the drugs issue

That won't make the issue go away. They have an only fans account I think so likely more clients? And if that dries up they will go to other means to get money for drugs. If the parents think this will stop their kid taking drugs, they are sorely mistaken

Channellingsophistication · 11/07/2023 09:12

So many odd things about this whole business and I wonder if it could be all nonsense…. Remember that guy who made allegations about politicians and abuse years ago - it wasnt true.

It’s a very believable story given what has happened in the past and how people in power can manipulate others, however the idea that the presenter asked the young person to call off their mum is extremely odd. As is the fact that they have engaged a top lawyer….

explainthistomeplease · 11/07/2023 09:13

pickledandpuzzled · 11/07/2023 09:10

Women need to stage an intervention, IMO, and inform men that sleazy behaviour is not 'normal for men, as long as they are discreet'.

The Overton window has been shoved so far out that almost anything is acceptable. It needs a reset.

But what?
What's shocked me most in all of this are the figures on the number of men using Only Fans.

Don't get me wrong - I'd come on board with an intervention. But I'm honestly stumped!

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