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How does the BBC get out of the presenter mess?

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mids2019 · 11/07/2023 07:13

Seriously how does the BBC now go forward and what can be the conclusion to this story? The story could run for some time with on going speculation about the presenter and eventually in my opinion a name will drop.

Can there therefore be any sort of fair investigation because I think there may be too much aspirational damage now for a career to be as ed. It seems the knives the BBC sit on this the more scrutiny there is and they desperately need a conclusion?

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kirinm · 11/07/2023 16:53

greencheetah · 11/07/2023 16:52

There’s no evidence of blackmail so far. Not sure why people are saying that.

Agree the presenter sounds like an arrogant narcissist. I wonder how long he has been doing this and how many more young men will surface with similar experiences.

Because second person said he sent aggressive messages after telling the presenter he may name him. That is a threat and it's not intended to do anything but harm him.

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 11/07/2023 16:53

greencheetah · 11/07/2023 16:52

There’s no evidence of blackmail so far. Not sure why people are saying that.

Agree the presenter sounds like an arrogant narcissist. I wonder how long he has been doing this and how many more young men will surface with similar experiences.

On the BBC report it was said that person number two was making comments online saying he was going to maybe name him. So the presenter sent those"menacing" texts
Ok not blackmailed but threatened to be outed. Over not doing anything illegal

the80sweregreat · 11/07/2023 16:54

I've tried to defend them a bit tbh, but this is indefensible now and clearly his not that bright using his own phone!
Thought nobody would ever expose him I suppose. Hard to know what's going on, but I suppose he'll retire and go into hiding.
I can imagine a few distressed photos of him appearing in the sun first though.

MowingTheTerf · 11/07/2023 16:54

There's no fool like an old fool.

StefanosHill · 11/07/2023 16:54

kirinm · 11/07/2023 16:49

Unless we find out there is some illegality here, I feel quite sorry for the guy. It's seedy but these sites exist and people use them.

Why or why people with SO much to lose would do shit like this is beyond me though. Surely they must realise that one day, someone is going to be paid enough to out them or at least threaten it?

That’s part of it imo. They feel untouchable

Up until the second allegation this thread was more just leave them to it

monsteramunch · 11/07/2023 16:54

kirinm · 11/07/2023 16:49

Unless we find out there is some illegality here, I feel quite sorry for the guy. It's seedy but these sites exist and people use them.

Why or why people with SO much to lose would do shit like this is beyond me though. Surely they must realise that one day, someone is going to be paid enough to out them or at least threaten it?

I would feel sorry for him if the people he was in communication with weren't so, so much younger than him. Multiple decades younger. Young enough to be at best just old enough to vote. If a man of his age was pursuing young women of 18-20 I wouldn't feel sorry for him being judged for doing so, so I can't feel sorry for this guy either.

LlynTegid · 11/07/2023 16:55

The man alleged does have children. I will not say how many as that would possibly identify him.

BillyNoM8s · 11/07/2023 16:55

AdamRyan · 11/07/2023 16:49

If you have sex with someone, it's ok for them to tell people. Of course people are going to say if they got picked up by someone famous! And today the kids put their whole lives on SM.

Having sex with someone comes with risks, one of which is they might talk about it. I don't think this second person has done anything wrong!

I'm not sure if there's any indication they had sex, is there? Yet...?

I'm imagining it's more a case of friendly, dirty chat. Old bloke stupidly reveals his identity. Young one smells gold and says I'll expose you - with the expectation they'll be paid to shush. Old bloke is already paying off person 1 to the tune of £10k a year so gets pissed off... and here we are.

There will be more.

What an idiot.

BillyNoM8s · 11/07/2023 16:56

LlynTegid · 11/07/2023 16:55

The man alleged does have children. I will not say how many as that would possibly identify him.

We all already know who this family man is. What a great week they're having.

RedToothBrush · 11/07/2023 16:57

There's always GB news...

greencheetah · 11/07/2023 16:57

kirinm · 11/07/2023 16:53

Because second person said he sent aggressive messages after telling the presenter he may name him. That is a threat and it's not intended to do anything but harm him.

Still not blackmail

VisionsOfSplendour · 11/07/2023 16:57

Darkmodeison · 11/07/2023 16:46

Am I the only person with no idea who it is or how to find out?

Pretty sure you in a very small group of people who don't know how to google, yes 😂

MowingTheTerf · 11/07/2023 16:57

So he sent someone (in their twenties) who was going on a dating app some abusive messages after they threatened to out him. Both were in the wrong, but seriously a 20-something cannot handle a few text messages, but can handle all the casual sex from the app?

Juanmartinez · 11/07/2023 16:58

Wasn't he trying to arrange a meeting with the young person?

MowingTheTerf · 11/07/2023 16:58

Juanmartinez · 11/07/2023 16:58

Wasn't he trying to arrange a meeting with the young person?

Yes, that's typically what happens with dating apps.

IClaudine · 11/07/2023 16:59

the80sweregreat · 11/07/2023 16:54

I've tried to defend them a bit tbh, but this is indefensible now and clearly his not that bright using his own phone!
Thought nobody would ever expose him I suppose. Hard to know what's going on, but I suppose he'll retire and go into hiding.
I can imagine a few distressed photos of him appearing in the sun first though.

Me too, as I thought the Scum wanted to out him and give the BBC a kicking and the original story was a gift to them to do both. Sympathy has evaporated now. It's all pretty tragic.

kirinm · 11/07/2023 16:59

I wonder what benefit someone might expect from by threatening to out a famous BBC. What possible reason is there then to cause him harm and / or exploit him.

dancinginthesky · 11/07/2023 16:59

There is a weird twitter thread which has a dude in his 30s I think sharing communication where it appears the man in question jumped into his DMs in a weird manner- flirty perhaps. peculiarly for a celeb vs the publics first contact

Ofc it's possible that the man who posted it is skirting for attention and if it's fake I imagine he's gonna get sued but if it's genuine this presenter is arrogant enough to think common sense doesn't apply to his interactions with the public

the80sweregreat · 11/07/2023 16:59

Using threatening language is never right , but stress and a double life has pushed him into it I suppose. Doesn't make it right , but there you go.
Maybe Philip schofield got off a little bit easier as he ' came out ' years before and nobody was that shocked, the man involved didn't take any other action either and didn't threaten him
( as far as it was reported )
Blackmail must be rife on these type of sites I bet
Especially those who want money or revenge

Juanmartinez · 11/07/2023 17:00

@MowingTheTerf , sorry I thought it was all taking place online.

AngelsForever · 11/07/2023 17:00

Where has edward gone, though ?

vera99 · 11/07/2023 17:00

Maybe the death of the Queen pushed him over the edge....

Translucentwaters · 11/07/2023 17:00

vera99 · 11/07/2023 16:50

He may have had a breakdown / drug habit that has awoken repressed gay tendencies, and he joined a dating app unwisely and was threatened with being outed. We are hardly in Saville territory here by a long shot. I feel sorry for him and his family. He should probably out himself, express regret for his actions and the impact it has had on his family and the BBC and any young men involved request time out to seek help and ask for forgiveness and after a period of time do a mea culpa interview and come back to work.

It is illegal to send or receive sexualised images of children under 18. It’s a criminal offence.

Add to that it has been proven that he has sent abusive and threatening messages to another young person. Which is also an offence - especially if there is imbalance of power and influence between them.

There is no way he can make a public apology and expect to ever have a job back!
He might be given a custodial sentence if he is charged. I don’t think you have understood the gravity - the aggravating feature being clearly this involves a minor (at least one)

IClaudine · 11/07/2023 17:00

MowingTheTerf · 11/07/2023 16:57

So he sent someone (in their twenties) who was going on a dating app some abusive messages after they threatened to out him. Both were in the wrong, but seriously a 20-something cannot handle a few text messages, but can handle all the casual sex from the app?

How do you know how much, if any casual sex the 20 year old had? And does it matter?

friendlycat · 11/07/2023 17:06

As with all these situations, there is a slow drip of information as it gradually builds to a bigger picture.

The dam will definitely burst soon as colleagues at the BBC who are having to front the news programmes and report on how their own corporation, the BBC, is handling this are going to get increasingly angry when none of this is any of their own mess. Just thing of all the behind the scenes production staff that go into the making of programmes.

It's now just a matter of time as more and more information becomes available before the whole thing blows apart.

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