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Jeremy Vine is threatening to sue

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gemstoneju · 08/07/2023 15:00

Just read on Twitter that Jeremy Vine has screenshotted a tweet accusing him of 'underage sex' and is threatening to sue the poster.

I know MN keeps taking these threads down, quite sensibly, but do be careful of naming anyone on SM in relation to these allegations, it wasn't even a tweeter with a particularly large following. I don't want to link to it.

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Gazelda · 08/07/2023 17:28

Why can't people grasp how wrong it is to give names in speculation?

One post in particular on this thread is doing an awful job of speculating, considering how laughably easy it is to disprove their theory.

Choux · 08/07/2023 17:29

My mistake. I though he also did some work for the BBC but other than his tell all interview lady month he doesn't seem to have done anything for years.

Interesting how close the dates tally though and that it refers to a youth so probably a male although not confirmed. Perhaps television will have a clear out.

Lysianthus · 08/07/2023 17:35

Andante57 · 08/07/2023 15:16

Is it always possible to trace twitter users?
I don’t blame Jeremy Vine in the least for wanting to clear his name, but if the tweeter lives abroad or is tech savvy, can they be found?

No idea but they can trace MN users. The other thread (which replaced the two deleted ones!) is beginning to look like a bookies.

creativebutterfly · 08/07/2023 17:39

Well to those complaining it's how the media works. They twist the truth so it's not longer pure which leaves open to speculation to fill in the gaps

Guineapigwoes · 08/07/2023 17:45

I love Jeremy vine and Tim vine - how good must Christmas be round there’s

Blankstatement · 08/07/2023 17:47

He should sue Katie Hopkins. That’s where this started.

marewindham · 08/07/2023 17:47

HuckingFellHire · 08/07/2023 17:19

Why would she be? Genuine question

Because she posted a video explicitly naming him as being the sexual predator in the newspaper articles.

That is slander, and also a very dangerous thing to do as naming names and directly accusing someone on social media can very easily compromise any potential criminal trial and lead to victims being denied justice.

He would almost certainly win a slander case against her unless she redacted and apologised.

The right to free speech does not give you the right to scream FIRE in a crowded theatre, and it doesn't give you the right to publish videos stating "Joe Blogs solicited sexual services from a teenage boy" just because you read and believed stuff on Twitter.

It's pretty obviously not him anyway as he doesn't present any TV shows for the BBC. (But then people are naming ITV presenters too, so maybe reading comprehension is just a thing of the past.)

VisionsOfSplendour · 08/07/2023 17:54

bellac11 · 08/07/2023 17:10

They've just announced it on the news and had quite a segment about it. I find it incredible. Theres no police investigation, theres not a lot of communication from the family to the BBC by the sounds of it

Seems to me they're trying to fall over themselves to show they're doing 'the right thing' to the extent that its become a farce.

Either someones done something wrong and they need to be sacked or disciplined (or police intervention) and there is evidence of that, or there isnt and stop all the hand wringing.

They announced who it is? If that's the case why can't we name the person on here?

gemstoneju · 08/07/2023 17:55

You'd really think people would learn, wouldn't you? Hopkins has been here before, lost her house.

Other supposedly intelligent people like Christian Jessen and Sally Bercow have done this too. Jessen was ruined by Arlene Foster. These people can afford the best legal teams. Libelling on Twitter is reckless in the extreme.

Vine has posted to say they 'have all the tweets'.

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Qilin · 08/07/2023 18:04

bellabelly · 08/07/2023 16:52

I don't understand why the bbc don't just name the person concerned and stop all of the speculation.

Presumably as, at the moment, it is just an allegation and not proven. So they'd be naming someone who may not have done anything illegal. They need to be sure to put someone's name to it and not risk finding themselves in hot water.

Goldfoot · 08/07/2023 18:07

I don't blame him, but underage sex isn't what whoever this celebrity is is accused of?

LindorDoubleChoc · 08/07/2023 18:11

Genuine question. How has this reached the news if the family concerned haven't even involved the police?

TooBigForMyBoots · 08/07/2023 18:12

That Katie Hopkins. She never fucking learns.🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

topnoddy · 08/07/2023 18:13

LindorDoubleChoc · 08/07/2023 18:11

Genuine question. How has this reached the news if the family concerned haven't even involved the police?

Because they went to The Scum

Adarajames · 08/07/2023 18:35

Bug for everyone defending him, how do you know it’s not him? 🤔

Kinneddar · 08/07/2023 18:37

Curiouscarla · 08/07/2023 15:17

I hope Katie Hopkins is shitting herself

She shoukd be. I saw her video earlier. That's shocking. She needs to remove it or I hope he goes after her

gemstoneju · 08/07/2023 18:38

Goldfoot · 08/07/2023 18:07

I don't blame him, but underage sex isn't what whoever this celebrity is is accused of?

Yes sorry. They had worded it along the lines of 'an interest in underage teenagers' or something like that. The word 'sex' was not used. It's now deleted so can't check.

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Kinneddar · 08/07/2023 18:38

Adarajames · 08/07/2023 18:35

Bug for everyone defending him, how do you know it’s not him? 🤔

Hes been on SM & like Rylan has publicly distanced himself from the story & says he'll be at work presenting his show on Monday

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/07/2023 18:43

In the UK, people are assumed innocent until proven guilty. Trial by social media doesn't dovetail very well with this principle. People would do well to remember that poor chap in Bristol who lived near a young woman who was murdered. The tabloids were certain he was the murderer because he was an older single man who was a bit eccentric. His life was ruined. It wasn't him. It was the young man who lived in the opposite flat to the victim.

Leverageup · 08/07/2023 18:44

The accusation isn’t even of sex and it said he was 17 which is legal age. So whoever posted that was VERY unwise

bellac11 · 08/07/2023 18:50

marewindham · 08/07/2023 17:47

Because she posted a video explicitly naming him as being the sexual predator in the newspaper articles.

That is slander, and also a very dangerous thing to do as naming names and directly accusing someone on social media can very easily compromise any potential criminal trial and lead to victims being denied justice.

He would almost certainly win a slander case against her unless she redacted and apologised.

The right to free speech does not give you the right to scream FIRE in a crowded theatre, and it doesn't give you the right to publish videos stating "Joe Blogs solicited sexual services from a teenage boy" just because you read and believed stuff on Twitter.

It's pretty obviously not him anyway as he doesn't present any TV shows for the BBC. (But then people are naming ITV presenters too, so maybe reading comprehension is just a thing of the past.)

Blimey what on earth possessed her to do that?

She has a history of being sued, doesnt she? Or some sort of actions against her anyway

bellac11 · 08/07/2023 18:51

VisionsOfSplendour · 08/07/2023 17:54

They announced who it is? If that's the case why can't we name the person on here?

No of course they didnt announce who it is!!

They announced the allegation/situation/investigation/statement/complaint, whatever you want to call it

KnitMePurlMe · 08/07/2023 18:52

@Choux do u mean PS hasn’t done anything for years? 😳 He was on tv every day 😄

3catsandcounting · 08/07/2023 18:55

Leverageup · 08/07/2023 18:44

The accusation isn’t even of sex and it said he was 17 which is legal age. So whoever posted that was VERY unwise

Taking and sharing indecent photos under the age of 18, is illegal though.

Tlolljs · 08/07/2023 19:01

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g Christopher Jeffries I think you mean.

I agree completely some of my former work colleagues were absolutely convinced he was guilty, just because they thought he was a bit ‘weird’