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Medical things you didn’t know?

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Emptychairdoasolo · 04/07/2023 21:09

Just watching a medical drama and wondered what happens if you die on the operating table? Do they just sew you back up without repairing anything inside?

but also had me thinking what other medical things didn’t you know until you maybe experienced them or learned?

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Emotionalsupportviper · 05/07/2023 13:15

Yarnorama · 05/07/2023 10:20

Grin

He was born at home so no opportunity for swapping!

Fairies?

You could have a Changeling . . .

justteanbiscuits · 05/07/2023 13:17

willWillSmithsmith · 05/07/2023 11:11

My dad died on the operating table. I never asked though what happens.

This is not really medical more biological but I didn’t know until fairly recently that girls height stops when they start menstruating. (Still not sure if that is correct).

Considering I started menstruating at 8, it's thankfully not true!!

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/07/2023 13:17

KeyboardCat · 05/07/2023 10:24

You don't have any muscles in your fingers - they are like marionettes being controlled by muscles in the palm 🖐learned from my years working in hand trauma!

Which is why hand surgery is such a specialised area. Repairing damaged tendons is an art - and TBH I don't think they ever quite recover their previous dexterity.

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/07/2023 13:20

justteanbiscuits · 05/07/2023 13:17

Considering I started menstruating at 8, it's thankfully not true!!

Oh - you poor thing!

What a thing for an 8 year old to cope with.

In most cases the height thing is right, though - there are always exceptions that test every rule, but as a general rule it's correct.

Alleycat1 · 05/07/2023 13:21

Question:
I have read on here that people don't smell immediately after death. I was with my mother when she died at home of cancer. The smell was awful ( unlike anything experienced before or since) because in the minutes prior to death her pores secreted a black sweat. Is this a common thing?

ComeTheFckOnBridget · 05/07/2023 13:22

@vaccinesticker

I rarely say this but do grow up.

It is about showing respect. Have you ever been with someone as they died or recently after? It is very moving - humans still lack the language to really describe what it feels like emotionally and intellectually. Most traditions around death developed from two reasons: 1) practicality/ necessity 2) helping people to cope with the reality of death.

Both involve religious practices and traditions, which vary according to culture. When society becomes less religious, there are many hang overs.

Do you ever say "bless you" to someone when they sneeze? The response developed because centuries ago people believed that sneezing gave the devil an opportunity to enter the body.

Hospitals were originally part of religious institutions (monasteries) where monks and nuns (and they lay brothers & sisters) cared for the ill and dying. The same people who would provide hospitality to passing travellers and those in need.

Burial practices - with or without - religious rites became commonplace in the UK because centuries ago the Church didn't agree with cremation.

These are just a couple of examples- there are dozens more where old religious habits/superstitions have become part of daily life. You might find it interesting to read up on it, it would certainly give your more to feel offended by. If you don't want them as part of your culture, you'll have to found a new country.

(Good luck with that)

Back to my original point, when a person dies most people (if they experience empathy) feel the need to mark the moment and find a way to demonstrate respect. Preparing the body is one way, but not generally speaking not everyone present takes part in this. A moments silence perhaps? It isn't typically done hut you're welcome to do so if you feel more comfortable with it.

Opening the window to let the soul free may have stemmed from a faith superstition and but I don't think most people who believe in souls believe not opening a window will trap the soul. It is, instead, a respectful gesture. An acknowledgement of what has happened, an easing of the shock of the reality of death for those left behind.

If you've ever been with someone as they died, you'll know that it can still feel like they're in the room for a few hours. How do you deal with that as a bereaved person? Ignore the loved one you still feel is with you?

By all means, if you prefer to clap your hands together and say "right, that's that then, time to be off, let the next patient come in" go ahead but most people prefer to deal with it a little more sensitively. Now you know about it, you can ask it's done not when you die and your wish will be respected - by people who show much more respect with one gesture than you've shown in your posts.

Oh and you know, clapping? Applause has roots as a way to banish evil and keep the devil away after a play because plays were thought to create magic (paraphrasing a lot here) and invite the devil in. It's why they were banned by Puritans during Cromwell's rule.

AD1996 · 05/07/2023 13:24

That you can’t catch a cold from being out in the cold. Probably sound thick as shit but I honestly didn’t know until my LO caught a cold lol

willWillSmithsmith · 05/07/2023 13:26

BloodyHellKen · 05/07/2023 11:16

This is not really medical more biological but I didn’t know until fairly recently that girls height stops when they start menstruating. (Still not sure if that is correct).

I'm pretty sure that's not correct @willWillSmithsmith

I started my periods at 13 and continued growing until I was much older when I reached 5ft 10. I definitely wasn't 5ft 10 at 13 years old.

Ditto my daughters. The older one has definitely continued growing and the youngest has just started her periods and is quite short (compared to the rest of us) so I hope she continues growing for a few years yet!!

I wasn’t sure if it was true or not but had come across it a few times. I can’t remember my own situation (far too long ago 😁).

willWillSmithsmith · 05/07/2023 13:33

bonfirebash · 05/07/2023 11:17

Yeah I started my periods at 9... I'm 5ft 10!

You were a very tall nine year old 😁

tt9 · 05/07/2023 13:34

Bewildered111 · 05/07/2023 12:24

I’m not at all superstitious. It grinds my gears when you use the word quiet and people seize up, look horrified, look furtively around them and put their fingers to their lips with a shhh sound and say in hushed tones you mustn’t use THAT word. Ridiculous. I would’ve thought people who work on the NHS used science based reasoning not woo woo.

I'm absolutely against any superstitions. BUT... I have to tell you that the Q word is genuinely cursed. every single really awful shift was preceded by someone or other using the Q word. we joke about it, but it's definitely true. someone should do a study. although I think it will be the double slit experiment with electrons- being observed changes the results.

Carpediemmakeitcount · 05/07/2023 13:34

BloodyHellKen · 05/07/2023 12:33

If his pancreas wasn't making enough insulin he had type 1 diabetes. In type 2 diabetes your pancreas makes lots of insulin but your body can't use it because of insulin resistance.

Also you aren't born with T1D, you can develop it at any age - eg Teresa May developed T1D in her 50's

My dad had an eating disorder and starved himself to death. I don't know why he had diabetes I got that from the internet I found it bizarre that's all because he hardly ate anything a sandwich a day or a cake it was chaotic he had MH issues. He killed himself in November 2021.

Loafbeginsat60 · 05/07/2023 13:35

Iloveanicegarden · 04/07/2023 21:10

That a lung condition can be indicated by eye inflammation

I think that's true of sheep too.....

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/07/2023 13:35

ComeTheFckOnBridget · 05/07/2023 13:22

@vaccinesticker

I rarely say this but do grow up.

It is about showing respect. Have you ever been with someone as they died or recently after? It is very moving - humans still lack the language to really describe what it feels like emotionally and intellectually. Most traditions around death developed from two reasons: 1) practicality/ necessity 2) helping people to cope with the reality of death.

Both involve religious practices and traditions, which vary according to culture. When society becomes less religious, there are many hang overs.

Do you ever say "bless you" to someone when they sneeze? The response developed because centuries ago people believed that sneezing gave the devil an opportunity to enter the body.

Hospitals were originally part of religious institutions (monasteries) where monks and nuns (and they lay brothers & sisters) cared for the ill and dying. The same people who would provide hospitality to passing travellers and those in need.

Burial practices - with or without - religious rites became commonplace in the UK because centuries ago the Church didn't agree with cremation.

These are just a couple of examples- there are dozens more where old religious habits/superstitions have become part of daily life. You might find it interesting to read up on it, it would certainly give your more to feel offended by. If you don't want them as part of your culture, you'll have to found a new country.

(Good luck with that)

Back to my original point, when a person dies most people (if they experience empathy) feel the need to mark the moment and find a way to demonstrate respect. Preparing the body is one way, but not generally speaking not everyone present takes part in this. A moments silence perhaps? It isn't typically done hut you're welcome to do so if you feel more comfortable with it.

Opening the window to let the soul free may have stemmed from a faith superstition and but I don't think most people who believe in souls believe not opening a window will trap the soul. It is, instead, a respectful gesture. An acknowledgement of what has happened, an easing of the shock of the reality of death for those left behind.

If you've ever been with someone as they died, you'll know that it can still feel like they're in the room for a few hours. How do you deal with that as a bereaved person? Ignore the loved one you still feel is with you?

By all means, if you prefer to clap your hands together and say "right, that's that then, time to be off, let the next patient come in" go ahead but most people prefer to deal with it a little more sensitively. Now you know about it, you can ask it's done not when you die and your wish will be respected - by people who show much more respect with one gesture than you've shown in your posts.

Oh and you know, clapping? Applause has roots as a way to banish evil and keep the devil away after a play because plays were thought to create magic (paraphrasing a lot here) and invite the devil in. It's why they were banned by Puritans during Cromwell's rule.

Very interesting (and sensitive) post - thank you.

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/07/2023 13:39

Whokilledrogerrabit · 05/07/2023 12:31

When you blush, the inside of your stomach does, too.

How the heck do they know that?

Not doubting you - it is too bizarre not to be true IMO, but how do they know?

bonfirebash · 05/07/2023 13:39

@willWillSmithsmith Grin I was but I definitely wasn't my full adult height
I think I was 5ft 6 or so at 12

Whokilledrogerrabit · 05/07/2023 13:44

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/07/2023 13:39

How the heck do they know that?

Not doubting you - it is too bizarre not to be true IMO, but how do they know?

I read it an a children's book of weird facts, I think, so I don't know the science behind it myself. A quick google suggests it's to do with the blood rushing there:

'You blush on the inside: When you blush, it's because blood rushes to the skin of your face. Interestingly, it also rushes to the lining of your stomach. That means when you blush, so does your tummy.'

BloodyHellKen · 05/07/2023 13:44

Carpediemmakeitcount · 05/07/2023 13:34

My dad had an eating disorder and starved himself to death. I don't know why he had diabetes I got that from the internet I found it bizarre that's all because he hardly ate anything a sandwich a day or a cake it was chaotic he had MH issues. He killed himself in November 2021.

@Carpediemmakeitcount I'm so sorry, that must have been terrible for him and for you and your family. I unfortunately have experience of both eating disorders and diabetes (not the same person thankfully) so can understand some of the immense stress you must have been through.

I have read that eating disorders are more common in people with T1D - I think it links into monitoring what you eat and how it affects your blood sugar 24/7 and I can certainly see how that could exacerbate mental health issues. Also, when T1D is uncontrolled you lose weight very fast as you develop ketoacidosis so I wouldn't rule out T1D.

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/07/2023 13:45

bonfirebash · 05/07/2023 13:39

@willWillSmithsmith Grin I was but I definitely wasn't my full adult height
I think I was 5ft 6 or so at 12

I started my periods at 12 and I was 5'3 - I am still 5'3". I was one of the tallest girls in my class and now am probably slightly below average height for a woman as most others shot past me.

My DD is 5'10' and didn't start her periods until she was 16.

I have worked with children who had particular genetic conditions which affects their height (eg Russel Sliver Dwarf Syndrome). Growth is stunted anyway for these individuals, but they are also prone to early puberty, and they were, where appropriate, prescribed puberty blockers to allow them to achieve as much height at possible because once puberty - and for the girls, periods - kicked in, then growth dramatically slowed and quickly stopped.

BloodyHellKen · 05/07/2023 13:47

and for the girls, periods - kicked in, then growth dramatically slowed and quickly stopped.

Oh dear, this is bad news for our youngest who has recently started her periods. It looks like she is destined to be the small in a family of 6 footers!!! she isn't going to be happy about that 😬

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/07/2023 13:48

Whokilledrogerrabit · 05/07/2023 13:44

I read it an a children's book of weird facts, I think, so I don't know the science behind it myself. A quick google suggests it's to do with the blood rushing there:

'You blush on the inside: When you blush, it's because blood rushes to the skin of your face. Interestingly, it also rushes to the lining of your stomach. That means when you blush, so does your tummy.'

Thank you - I think that's rather delightful 😄

I do know that when you blush all exposed skin from the face down is affected - so if you are wearing a polo neck, you will only blush facially, but if you are exposing a magnificent décolletage (or in my case, an "ironing board" 😂) then the blush will colour your bosom, too.

Bodies and physiology are fascinating things.

justteanbiscuits · 05/07/2023 13:48

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/07/2023 13:20

Oh - you poor thing!

What a thing for an 8 year old to cope with.

In most cases the height thing is right, though - there are always exceptions that test every rule, but as a general rule it's correct.

I am the same height as when I started high school though, so the triggering stopping growing theory definitely holds up.

And yes, it was pretty bloody horrendous!! It was before we'd been taught about it at school, and while I had a very basic idea of something happening, I had no real idea what it was all about. I also suffered menorrhagia from the age of 10 until I was 40!!!

DeanElderberry · 05/07/2023 13:51

I grew a full inch in my first two terms at university, 5 if not 6 years after I started menstruating. Since I'm not the only one on the thread with similar experience, that 'rule' must be for most girls not all girls.

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/07/2023 13:51

BloodyHellKen · 05/07/2023 13:47

and for the girls, periods - kicked in, then growth dramatically slowed and quickly stopped.

Oh dear, this is bad news for our youngest who has recently started her periods. It looks like she is destined to be the small in a family of 6 footers!!! she isn't going to be happy about that 😬

She may break the rule, like some previous posters have - otherwise she'll just have to be like Shakespeare's Hermia -

"Though she be but little, she is fierce".

(My very tall DD bought me a bookmark with that on - I am very proud of it! 😊)

BloodyHellKen · 05/07/2023 13:54

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/07/2023 13:51

She may break the rule, like some previous posters have - otherwise she'll just have to be like Shakespeare's Hermia -

"Though she be but little, she is fierce".

(My very tall DD bought me a bookmark with that on - I am very proud of it! 😊)

She is definitely fierce!!!😂

2bazookas · 05/07/2023 13:55

YouAndMeAndThem · 04/07/2023 21:40

You can't be declared dead until the heart stops beating. The attending doctor has to listen for heart sounds for one minute and cannot declare death until this is absent.

Most likely OP 's relative was declared brain-dead.

No hope of recovery so all that's left is to decide which organs are worth harvesting for transplant.

J