Jamie Oliver and his sugar tax

[IsThat]

Pub grub, school meals chef know it all!

Turns out he was wrong about replacement of sugar.

Jamie Oliver spends twenty years campaigning for better nutrition for children and some people's take is that he is a bastard who banned sugar?
I know there are loads of Daily Fail fans on here but when did MN become fact free?

https://www.jamieoliver.com/campaigns/

Actually I do add sugar to coffee so I do have a sweet drink a few times a week.

I agree it's the poor that Jamie has penalised with Chisholm though out campaign. The old and disabled will use the most convenient food and it's helpful that others use it also as it makes it cheaper.

I can only imagine a low sugar moment for a diabetic, it must be much easier to grab a sugary drink when feeling so sick.

I like the laxative effect of sweeteners! 😂

Maybe you should consider that people have varying palates.

Affected by what you eat. Which is why Americans eat bread that tastes like cake and salad dressing that tastes like syrup.

Teaching children's palates that sweet is occasional and specific isn't bad.

The old and disabled will use the most convenient food and it's helpful that others use it also as it makes it cheaper.

Sources please. Because I'm willing to bet quite a lot that teenagers and young parents use more than the elderly.

Another one who is confused over what the heck the sugar tax has to do with the old and disabled choosing to use some convenience foods.

I have baked beans and ketchup with sugar, occasionally. I like chocolate when I am due a period, I have an actual hormonal need, if I don't have extra food and sweet food those few days I find that my mood is really bad and I cry.

I don't get what this has to do with the sugar tax - are you struggling to find these things or is it a price increase issue? I have beans, ketchup and chocolate in my cupboards all bought without worrying either way about sweeteners and I just checked they are all clear.

https://www.healthline.com/health/food-nutrition/supertaster

Scientists believe most supertasters have the gene TAS2R38, which increases bitterness perception. The gene makes supertasters sensitive to bitter flavors in all foods and drinks. People with this gene are particularly sensitive to a chemical called 6-n-propylthiouracil (PROP).
About 25 percent
Trusted Source of the population qualifies as supertasters. Women are more likely to be supertasters than men.

Your genetic make-up is likely that you may have few or not very sensitive taste buds, so you can't pick up the delicate or complexity of flavours that others can detect.

https://www.news-medical.net/health/The-Genetics-of-Corianders-Soapy-Taste.aspx

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Nope. I eat hot curry, salty and sour and umami.

I've trained myself not to crave sugar. Its addictive.

eat hot curry

Then you have few taste buds or not very sensitive taste buds, as no supertaster or super smeller will touch a hot curry, we can't tolerate them.

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I've kinda lost the plot about how JO has banned sugar and changed the genetic make up of the country to make everyone hate coriander, so he should fund the NHS.

Supertasters don't tend to do fizzy drinks or chocolate.

@IsThat - super tasters and the aversion to bitter tastes is a red herring.

We add sugar (& salt) to most foods as a preservative and yes to make it taste sweet known as better.
But we have learnt that food should taste sweet by eating thouse foods.
You can actually wean yourself off the sweet taste by using/ eating less sugar and avoiding foods with lots of additives like sweeteners.
In the first 10- 14 days things will taste sour, bitter and even bland.
After that phase (especially if you are a super taster) things start to taste good, you find new levels of tasty in your food that previously was bland.
Then, after about 8 weeks you can eat your favourite biscuits or have your favourite fizzy drink- I bet you, you won't like it!

I live with a diabetic person - the sugar tax has not been a problem at all, there are lots of fast acting easy to carry glucose gel products on the market, they can also have biscuits etc and as others have said, there are still sugary cordials available. In fact its an improvement in some ways because there are far more sugar free drinks and they aren't stuck with Diet coke as their only option.

I am not addicted to sugar, like others you made wrong assumptions about me.

If it was a general comment them don't @ me.

Non tasters, like a hot curry, alcohol and tend to smoke, where as super tasters don't, non tasters have their own set of health issues due to the way their body works.

Why do you think that? I make baked beans, I don’t add sugar or sweetener.

Jesus Christ! Where have you got the idea that I am in support of artificially sweetened drinks?! Just the opposite. My point is that I want to be able to chose a proper sugared soft drink when I want one and would prefer that over cakes an puddings.

He’s not wrong though. Sugar is bad for you. It just turns out aspartame is too.

I have a bottle of sugar free soft drink and it doesn't have aspartame in it. I need sugar free or I'm only drinking coffee, tea or water for the rest of my life.

I’m a type 1 diabetic, sugary snacks and drinks are plentiful in shops. I don’t find processed foods helpful, nor do I spill sugar or find if hard to clean my kitchen. Home made baked beans are barely complex.