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Missing Titanic submarine

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Twinklesgolden · 19/06/2023 17:50

How horrifying that a submarine carrying 5 people has gone missing. Apparently there’s only 96 hours of air on the submarine when it sets off.

The people on board must be terrified!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65953872.amp

Titan submersible from OceanGate

Titanic tourist sub goes missing sparking search - BBC News

Rescuers are searching for a submersible used to take tourists and experts to view the famous shipwreck.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65953872.amp

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Doris86 · 19/06/2023 22:26

YoSof · 19/06/2023 20:02

A guy on Twitter who was on an expedition last year said that it has seven different ways to resurface in an emergency if needed.

That makes it even more concerning that it hasn’t resurfaced, but then if it resurfaced miles away from the ship it can’t be opened anyway can it? It doesn’t bear thinking about

Who says it hasn’t resurfaced? That is one of the current avenues of investigation. Aeroplanes are searching the ocean to see if they can see it.

darkmodeon · 19/06/2023 22:27

Why can't the navy go and get them in their submarines and like grab them up to the surface?

BillyNoM8s · 19/06/2023 22:28

darkmodeon · 19/06/2023 22:27

Why can't the navy go and get them in their submarines and like grab them up to the surface?

Because they can't go anywhere near as deep. Not remotely.

YoSof · 19/06/2023 22:29

Doris86 · 19/06/2023 22:26

Who says it hasn’t resurfaced? That is one of the current avenues of investigation. Aeroplanes are searching the ocean to see if they can see it.

You’re right, there’s nothing to say it hasn’t resurfaced. I really hope that it has me is found soon if so.

gawditswindy · 19/06/2023 22:29

darkmodeon · 19/06/2023 22:27

Why can't the navy go and get them in their submarines and like grab them up to the surface?

Submarines can't go down that deep. They also have no real idea where it is.

ManuelBensonsLeftBoot · 19/06/2023 22:29

darkmodeon · 19/06/2023 22:27

Why can't the navy go and get them in their submarines and like grab them up to the surface?

Because navy submarines can't go that deep. The pressure would crush them like stamping on an empty coke can.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 19/06/2023 22:29

darkmodeon · 19/06/2023 22:27

Why can't the navy go and get them in their submarines and like grab them up to the surface?

Are you on glue? It's probably a cubic area the size of Wales, 1000m deep, could be surface or seabed and they are small and have no method of comms.

meditrina · 19/06/2023 22:29

darkmodeon · 19/06/2023 22:27

Why can't the navy go and get them in their submarines and like grab them up to the surface?

Because navy submarines don't go that deep.

It's about 2.5 miles down. Fewer people have been that deep in to the oceans than have been in space.

darkmodeon · 19/06/2023 22:29

BillyNoM8s · 19/06/2023 22:28

Because they can't go anywhere near as deep. Not remotely.

Oh. Are they not as strong as the little ones? Hmm.. is there another little one that could go down?

FuckMeSidewaysAndCallMeBarbara · 19/06/2023 22:30

I remember that rescue too @MostlyHuman. Wasn't there sharks swimming around the wreck too? I vaguely remember that one brushed past him.

gogohmm · 19/06/2023 22:30

Navy submarines only go to 600m. It's at circa 2000m !

darkmodeon · 19/06/2023 22:30

meditrina · 19/06/2023 22:29

Because navy submarines don't go that deep.

It's about 2.5 miles down. Fewer people have been that deep in to the oceans than have been in space.

Ahh another little one is not a good idea then.

darkmodeon · 19/06/2023 22:31

Thanks to those who have politely educated me on navy submarines.

RoseAndRose · 19/06/2023 22:31

gogohmm · 19/06/2023 22:30

Navy submarines only go to 600m. It's at circa 2000m !

The wreck of The Titanic is approx 3,800m (just under 2.5 miles)

hotpotlover · 19/06/2023 22:32

Does that mean there's no hope for the people on board if the submersible is stuck at the bottom of the sea?

YoSof · 19/06/2023 22:33

hotpotlover · 19/06/2023 22:32

Does that mean there's no hope for the people on board if the submersible is stuck at the bottom of the sea?

If it can’t resurface itself, then no there’s no hope.

Motorina · 19/06/2023 22:34

darkmodeon · 19/06/2023 22:29

Oh. Are they not as strong as the little ones? Hmm.. is there another little one that could go down?

I guess they'd have to know where to go down to (currently the thing is lost somewhere who knows where) and then have the equipment to do something useful once it's got there. The one that's lost seems to have the ability to go down, up and gawp at the wreck, and not much else - there would be no point in sending another the same.

BillyNoM8s · 19/06/2023 22:36

hotpotlover · 19/06/2023 22:32

Does that mean there's no hope for the people on board if the submersible is stuck at the bottom of the sea?

If it can't resurface there's no hope. If it's gone deeper than whatever it's survivable depth is, then it will have been crushed.

MostlyHuman · 19/06/2023 22:36

SophiaElizabethGrace · 19/06/2023 22:20

That's the thing though isn't it... it doesn't sound as if there is a plan b. I'm thinking out loud really whilst also shuddering at the horror of it. Another experienced pilot is great unless the problem is such that no one inside the craft can assist without the link to the main boat.

The chap who owns the company said that something always goes wrong whenever they dive!. I suppose what I'm thinking is that when you're that deep under water your options are hugely limited. Without a proper plan b it simply shouldn't have been allowed. I know that life isn't as simple as that, especially when you have the money to do whatever you please but when do the rights of the rescue workers kick in? Should thousands/millions of pounds be spent on a rescue mission? Should the rescuers put their lives in danger? I don't quite know the answers.

Fully agree with your post. I just meant that it sounded like the three passengers were the billionaire, the pilot and the owner, and they all have experience in submersibles. And while yes there may not be a plan b, these are the people who should know exactly what their best options are. I originally had visions of a pilot and four novices who might not have any idea what they might be able to do, especially if something had happened to the pilot. In the Apollo 13 mission, the three men used their knowledge to jury rig the scrubbers and save their lives. I am hoping for something along these lines.

The part about the rescue workers, yes agree with that too. It's what they do and most would say they would do it again and again, but should we be asking it of them. I don't know the answer either, but admire their bravery so very much.

Doris86 · 19/06/2023 22:36

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 19/06/2023 22:29

Are you on glue? It's probably a cubic area the size of Wales, 1000m deep, could be surface or seabed and they are small and have no method of comms.

The support ship will be aware of their last recorded position.

As other posters have pointed out, the major issue is that normal submarines simply can’t go anywhere deep enough to rescue them.

BillyNoM8s · 19/06/2023 22:38

MostlyHuman · 19/06/2023 22:36

Fully agree with your post. I just meant that it sounded like the three passengers were the billionaire, the pilot and the owner, and they all have experience in submersibles. And while yes there may not be a plan b, these are the people who should know exactly what their best options are. I originally had visions of a pilot and four novices who might not have any idea what they might be able to do, especially if something had happened to the pilot. In the Apollo 13 mission, the three men used their knowledge to jury rig the scrubbers and save their lives. I am hoping for something along these lines.

The part about the rescue workers, yes agree with that too. It's what they do and most would say they would do it again and again, but should we be asking it of them. I don't know the answer either, but admire their bravery so very much.

To be honest, I think my plan B for such a scenario would be some way of doing myself in. I wouldn't want to wait to die for days on end.

darkmodeon · 19/06/2023 22:38

BillyNoM8s · 19/06/2023 22:36

If it can't resurface there's no hope. If it's gone deeper than whatever it's survivable depth is, then it will have been crushed.

Oh that's awful I hope it's bobbing in the ocean somewhere and it's found soon

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 19/06/2023 22:38

The pressure at that depth is immensely greater than at sea level. This is not a case of Apollo 13 and brave passengers rigging up a solution. If the sub developed a crack or something, it basically would have exploded. Plus it's very cold down there.

This is a disaster for those poor people.

Sarahtm35 · 19/06/2023 22:40

You’d think that they’d have 2 of these submarines as a precaution. The other to go down in an emergency. Surely such submarine exists somewhere. If they have met their demise then I hope it was very quick.

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