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Missing Titanic submarine

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Twinklesgolden · 19/06/2023 17:50

How horrifying that a submarine carrying 5 people has gone missing. Apparently there’s only 96 hours of air on the submarine when it sets off.

The people on board must be terrified!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65953872.amp

Titan submersible from OceanGate

Titanic tourist sub goes missing sparking search - BBC News

Rescuers are searching for a submersible used to take tourists and experts to view the famous shipwreck.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65953872.amp

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PurposefulBear · 19/06/2023 21:55

Igneococcus · 19/06/2023 21:33

It was fantastic and I would do it again @PurposefulBear but it was in a dedicated research sub launched from and recovered by a ship build for this purpose with an experienced crew, a fantastic captain and PIs with a lot of experience of working at sea. The sub was checked over every time it came up and again before it went down and there were divers checking it again when it was put into the water. There were so many safety checks.
We went down to take data readings and samples (at the time with only one arm, the new Alvin has two) and there was so much stuff to do and to look at I had no time to be scared or worried.
I don't know this sub at all, so I wouldn't want to speculate. I get the feeling though there wasn't the same dedication to safety as the Alvin crew has.

It sounds incredible, I can only hope that they learned the sorts of lessons needed from Alvin to embark on this kind of trip. Was there much life down there?

shams05 · 19/06/2023 21:55

They're saying the 96 hours of oxygen is the emergency amount and they may well have that full supply left.
No information on how long before they need to start tapping into that emergency supply. It's all very vague reporting which to me seems like this mission didn't tick all the safety boxes.
I feel panicky just thinking about how they all must be feeling. Hopefully they'll be located on the surface soon now they're calling in extra help to search.

SophiaElizabethGrace · 19/06/2023 21:55

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?? So confusing.

HidingInAForest · 19/06/2023 21:55

I cant quite get over how small it is. I completely thought "submarine" initially.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 19/06/2023 21:57

shams05 · 19/06/2023 21:55

They're saying the 96 hours of oxygen is the emergency amount and they may well have that full supply left.
No information on how long before they need to start tapping into that emergency supply. It's all very vague reporting which to me seems like this mission didn't tick all the safety boxes.
I feel panicky just thinking about how they all must be feeling. Hopefully they'll be located on the surface soon now they're calling in extra help to search.

How specific can they really be though? They don't know where it is, or what state the vessel or crew are in. What else can be said?

sweetcheeks27 · 19/06/2023 21:58

Didn't realise there was even an option to visit the Titanic as a tourist. I couldn't set foot on a tiny little vessel like that, the no lavatories would put me off for a start! I hope they are found safely and soon, what an ordeal.

TheTERFnextDoor · 19/06/2023 22:00

How do the people onboard usually last 8 hours without a toilet?

SophiaElizabethGrace · 19/06/2023 22:00

Why is it allowed? I understand deep dives for research purposes but I don't think that this kind of tourism should be allowed when there is no method of rescue. There isn't another submersible craft that can dive that deep and provide support.

SophiaElizabethGrace · 19/06/2023 22:01

TheTERFnextDoor · 19/06/2023 22:00

How do the people onboard usually last 8 hours without a toilet?

There is a toilet on board.

YoSof · 19/06/2023 22:02

ZebraDilemma · 19/06/2023 21:54

Crikey, just hope for rescue. Suffocation sounds appalling.

My post literally says if it cannot be located, of course I’m hoping for rescue!

If it can’t be located, I hope it’s as swift as possible for those on board and they are not sat for the next 60 hours knowing what’s coming while the oxygen slowly runs out.

Coconutsandpalmtrees · 19/06/2023 22:04

I agree it shouldn't be allowed. Going down there for research purposes -fine. Tourism? No. It's just not safe as we have seen. These people obviously thought it was perfectly safe but the company sending them down there just saw pound signs. I hope they are all found safe.

tigger2022 · 19/06/2023 22:06

Gosh… sounds like a horror movie. I can’t imagine ever wanting to do something like this, I wonder if some people just get so rich they run out of things to spend their money on. Hope they’re found soon. Doesn’t bear thinking about. Just the feeling of being so cramped and so far from anything.

Yfory · 19/06/2023 22:06

ManuelBensonsLeftBoot Everyday is a learning day - I didnt know that. Thanks for teaching me something.

WeekendInTheBoondocks again, something else I didnt know, ta.

VisionsOfSplendour No of course not.

SerafinasGoose · 19/06/2023 22:07

ZebraDilemma · 19/06/2023 19:56

I believe that some people do treat Auschwitz as a tourist destination, which appalls me.

Dark tourism is a thing. It takes in the sites of many atrocities, disasters like Chernobyl, the likes of Pere La Chaise and Highgate Cemeteries; even notorious suicide spots like the Golden Gate Bridge and Beachy Head.

Auschwitz touts itself as a memorial as well as a museum, likewise Ground Zero. But I don't think this is just about paying respects. There is a form of morbid curiosity about it that's sometimes even akin to prurience, which exists about death as well as sex.

Titanic seems different from a well-ordered cemetery. Its victims, like those of the Holocaust, received no funerals and just lay where they fell. There's something even more immediately poignant about this, particularly in the images of clothing with shoes immediately next to them which were obviously all that remained of a person. Even 112 years later, I believe such an image should never be published.

As to the missing Titan - from the name you can see why seafaring folk are so superstitious - the laissez faire methods used to control the thing are nothing short of shocking. Sadly it seems this was a tragedy waiting to happen. It also seems extremely unlikely that any of those people will come back.

It's an appalling thing to happen. I hope if nothing else they review this practice and the wreck - about which it's unlikely anything more can realistically be discovered - can be left in peace. The day it finally disintegrates will probably be best for all.

Leftbutcameback · 19/06/2023 22:07

MostlyHuman · 19/06/2023 21:38

I often think about Harrison Okene and if others had the same experience. We generally think that when a ship goes down the passengers drown fairly quickly. His ordeal is both harrowing and amazing, but does make you think about those who might not have been found, and waited like he did. It is horrible to consider, I hope those passengers in the sub are found safe soon.

I had no idea who this was @MostlyHuman and have just read his story. And seen the video of his rescue. What an amazing rescue, and I see he’s now trained to dive and rescue people too. Just incredible.

fuckmyuteruslining · 19/06/2023 22:08

Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. There's no good reason for humans to travel to that depth at that site. Hopefully they will find them but it doesn't seem to be looking great.

SerafinasGoose · 19/06/2023 22:09

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I blame the heat.

SadOrWickedFairy · 19/06/2023 22:09

SophiaElizabethGrace · 19/06/2023 22:00

Why is it allowed? I understand deep dives for research purposes but I don't think that this kind of tourism should be allowed when there is no method of rescue. There isn't another submersible craft that can dive that deep and provide support.

You would have thought that would have been the case to have one on standby to go and search if need be.

The other part that concerns me is that the weather was bad and they launched in a 'window' of better weather which seems risky to me as the weather was always likely to deteriorate further.

I hope they are found and rescued.

MostlyHuman · 19/06/2023 22:11

Isn't another one of the passengers the man who owns/runs the sub company? Apologies if I've misunderstood the news article about who was on board (the link about the billionaire). I thought it said that with the billionaire was also an experienced pilot (of the sub) and the owner. Hopefully they would be the best people to know what to do in the situation.

PurposefulBear · 19/06/2023 22:13

They don’t sound naive to the dangers to me, on the contrary they all seem to describe themselves as explorers, and certainly seem to have the experience to back this up between them. I don’t think it should be banned, I see no problem with humans trying to explore the limits of the world as we know it, but the responsibility is theirs and theirs alone. When a rescue calls into question the safety of other people though I think it crosses a line.

SophiaElizabethGrace · 19/06/2023 22:20

MostlyHuman · 19/06/2023 22:11

Isn't another one of the passengers the man who owns/runs the sub company? Apologies if I've misunderstood the news article about who was on board (the link about the billionaire). I thought it said that with the billionaire was also an experienced pilot (of the sub) and the owner. Hopefully they would be the best people to know what to do in the situation.

That's the thing though isn't it... it doesn't sound as if there is a plan b. I'm thinking out loud really whilst also shuddering at the horror of it. Another experienced pilot is great unless the problem is such that no one inside the craft can assist without the link to the main boat.

The chap who owns the company said that something always goes wrong whenever they dive!. I suppose what I'm thinking is that when you're that deep under water your options are hugely limited. Without a proper plan b it simply shouldn't have been allowed. I know that life isn't as simple as that, especially when you have the money to do whatever you please but when do the rights of the rescue workers kick in? Should thousands/millions of pounds be spent on a rescue mission? Should the rescuers put their lives in danger? I don't quite know the answers.

ManuelBensonsLeftBoot · 19/06/2023 22:22

Yfory · 19/06/2023 22:06

ManuelBensonsLeftBoot Everyday is a learning day - I didnt know that. Thanks for teaching me something.

WeekendInTheBoondocks again, something else I didnt know, ta.

VisionsOfSplendour No of course not.

Dictionaries are amazing things.

BillyNoM8s · 19/06/2023 22:22

All those passengers would've been well aware that death is a very real possibility, if the slightest thing goes wrong.

When you have loads of money it means you can indulge your wildest whims. People who go into space or 4km under the sea know exactly the score and choose to plough on anyway.

Reading that they descended in "a window" of good weather strikes me as somewhat reckless, but what do I know? The whole thing sounds unwise to me.

Horrendous predicament to find yourself in though. I can honestly imagine nothing worse.

I hope no one else has to endanger themselves to attempt rescue. Given the speed at which they would've known there was an issue (when no 15 minute ping received), it seems unlikely that they have surfaced, as surely they'd be in a not too large radius from where they launched? Can only hope for the best.

MostlyHuman · 19/06/2023 22:23

Leftbutcameback · 19/06/2023 22:07

I had no idea who this was @MostlyHuman and have just read his story. And seen the video of his rescue. What an amazing rescue, and I see he’s now trained to dive and rescue people too. Just incredible.

It's one of those stories that stays with you forever. They were so brave to pull off the rescue on the fly and he did an incredible job of staying calm and following their lead at 100ft. Every time I think of it, I still can't believe that it happened. Humans can be capable of some really amazing things. Praying for another miracle in this case too.

coxesorangepippin · 19/06/2023 22:24

Let's hope they are all rescued soon

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