Missing Titanic submarine

[Twinklesgolden]

How horrifying that a submarine carrying 5 people has gone missing. Apparently there’s only 96 hours of air on the submarine when it sets off.

The people on board must be terrified!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65953872.amp

I’m not an expert by any stretch I only know what I’ve read and heard on the radio. They were saying earlier it can’t navigate itself as such, it pings some sort of messages back and forth from the mother ship and that’s how it navigates, the mother ship gives it instructions but only knows where it is when it gets the ping back

@theDudesmummy I corrected myself immediately as was very distracted when I typed that

No need to be a rude twat because you couldn't be bothered to read practically the next comment up

Hamish Harding has been into space, not the moon. There's been numerous clarifications and discussions of this in previous posts.

What an incredibly stupid undertaking to go on the trip in the first place.

Horrific situation for those trapped, but I’m more concerned about the danger to those undertaking an immense rescue effort.

Could the sub have hit an iceberg?

Given you can't even drive a car without insurance how on earth was this expedition even legal? NOBODY would have insured this surely? But the crew were tweeting about it beforehand so it wasn't some cloak and dagger trip...

In answer to a comment below, I highly doubt any further tourist trips will ever be permitted to dive down there again whatever the outcome (and I'm hoping for a miracle!)

Not unless technology advances to the point it's almost guaranteed a potential rescue mission can be something to fall back on - which could be so far into the future there'll be nothing left of the site anyway.

Bit ironic if it has!!

I'm not sure if you are being serious, sarcastic or flippant....

Er...the reason we have compulsory car insurance is totally different from "insuring" some millionaires in a transit van sized sightseeing contraption 2.5 miles under the sea. Your comparison makes no sense.

I was guessing poor taste humour attempt.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_of_Roger_Mallinson_and_Roger_Chapman

This happened at only 1200 ft and was a touch and go rescue.

You don't tend to get that many icebergs that far under the water . and yes I do know that 90% of an iceberg is under the surface

They’ve all melted now

@YouLittlePlonka

Given you can't even drive a car without insurance how on earth was this expedition even legal?

Comes back to the point I made upthread...this is a fledgling industry so I don't know but it's quite possible it may well not be regulated, so possibly no laws to break...it will be interesting to see where this all ends up legally.

Maybe a parallel would be to remember that there were no rules of the air for fixed wing powered aircraft when the Wright Brothers went flying back in 1903.....so did they act illegally?

I saw a graphic in the guardian that showed the depth compared to the eifle tower and some other landmark buildings it all makes sense just how deep it is now it was hard to visualise before.

But the company would have needed some sort of insurance! You can't just pop down to the Atlantic floor bed without going through a shit load of red tape first, surely. Especially if you're escorting four civilians. Same as climbing Mount Everest, it's not like you can just rock up with your backpack. A lot of boxes need to be ticked.

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I wonder if their bodies will ever be found if they have died? Would they float to the top and wash up? Or if it’s exploded would body parts float to the top?

In the UK they definitely would have needed to have £10m public liability insurance. No idea if something similar would apply...

Also £10m doesn't go very far if you're looking at one off submersibles with billionaires on board:

Not an expert but I'm going to say it's unlikely from that deep.

They been doing it for some years. I doubt it’s insured, they would just sign a waver.

I don’t think there is a way of stopping people going if they want to, it’s in the middle of the ocean. And there is no way of working out to do rescue missions except by practising.

I’m not being flippant, it’s like space exploration or even just mountaineering (1 in 5 die on K2 I think) - there is no way of doing this stuff without danger.

I wouldn’t want to do it either, but the world would be a boring place if some people didn’t want to push boundaries.

There’s no reason to stop being doing dangerous things, as long as they don’t harm anyone but themselves. And the rescue missions don’t need to take undue risks if they don’t want to.

Interesting article

I’d hope that their briefing would be that their own lives come first and not to endanger themselves to attempt to find people who are likely to be dead. It would be awful to have further tragedies as a result of the search

It doesn’t necessarily work like that Twinkles.

Think about the unpredictability of the weather or the sea.