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How old is 'too old' for a child to be naked at a splash park?

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00100001 · 19/06/2023 15:53

Sitting here with the 4yo niece charge at a splash park... 6/7 year old girl running round starkers! I'm a bit shocked tbh.

Now I have been "caught short" before, but she's just been sent in the water in her knickers, because she can always just go commando on the way home.

I think anything around 3+ is too old tbh.

OP posts:
Kanaloa · 20/06/2023 09:54

mindutopia · 20/06/2023 09:46

Personally, none of my children are ever naked in public. I have a family member who is a convicted paedophile. He is a member of a family naturist club (he has no 'family'), I would assume, so that he can have easy access to seeing children naked (children are also required to be naked, if you can believe it, except in certain areas for 'health & safety reasons'. I have no doubt that more public spaces would be a magnet for these creeps.

Have you contacted the naturist club and the police? A convicted paedophile being a member of a club where children must be naked would obviously be interesting to both. I wouldn’t stand by.

Kanaloa · 20/06/2023 09:56

WinterDeWinter · 20/06/2023 09:02

I'm astonished at the near unanimity for 'no child naked at any age'.

To me this is the same argument that misogynist cultures use to force women into 'modest' garments - ie there are bad men around and it is your responsibility to avoid inflaming them.

Paedophiles sexualise children. We don't have to join in.

Saying ‘all people must wear clothing for reasons of personal dignity and safety’ is not the same as saying ‘women are dirty temptresses for men and must cover every inch of their body.’

Presumably your kids are naked wherever they want? Naked at the park, soft play, trampolining, school? If not, why not? Are you one of those misogynist like people?

BlinkeredBay · 20/06/2023 09:58

Kanaloa · 20/06/2023 09:54

Have you contacted the naturist club and the police? A convicted paedophile being a member of a club where children must be naked would obviously be interesting to both. I wouldn’t stand by.

I would assume it’s the duty of the naturist club that they don’t accept convicted pedophiles? And of the parents taking there children to such places, to check that the club has such checks in place?

Kanaloa · 20/06/2023 09:59

BlinkeredBay · 20/06/2023 09:58

I would assume it’s the duty of the naturist club that they don’t accept convicted pedophiles? And of the parents taking there children to such places, to check that the club has such checks in place?

Really? You’d just shrug and say ‘oh well, not my problem that the convicted paedophile I know about is regularly accessing naked children.’ Would you feel the same if you knew a teacher was a convicted paedophile? You’d just say ‘it’s the job of the school and parents to sort that out’ and then the other cheek?

I couldn’t do so. I would have to report it, I’d feel it was my duty.

BlinkeredBay · 20/06/2023 10:03

Kanaloa · 20/06/2023 09:59

Really? You’d just shrug and say ‘oh well, not my problem that the convicted paedophile I know about is regularly accessing naked children.’ Would you feel the same if you knew a teacher was a convicted paedophile? You’d just say ‘it’s the job of the school and parents to sort that out’ and then the other cheek?

I couldn’t do so. I would have to report it, I’d feel it was my duty.

My point is it shouldn’t have to be reported to them! It should be a standard practise, that they know!

Otherwise, guess what happens……

Also, you’ll get false accusations as well.

A robust system is needed by the facility provided.

Kanaloa · 20/06/2023 10:05

BlinkeredBay · 20/06/2023 10:03

My point is it shouldn’t have to be reported to them! It should be a standard practise, that they know!

Otherwise, guess what happens……

Also, you’ll get false accusations as well.

A robust system is needed by the facility provided.

Yes, a system is needed. However, if the poster is correct then it has obviously failed, or there isn’t one. I would report it anyway.

BlinkeredBay · 20/06/2023 10:09

Kanaloa · 20/06/2023 10:05

Yes, a system is needed. However, if the poster is correct then it has obviously failed, or there isn’t one. I would report it anyway.

And that’s the right thing to do, but in no way should it be relied upon.

People using these places with their children, should be 100% sure that the provider is safeguarding them. I’ll be honest, I’m not sure why you’d want to take your child to a place like this? Your lifestyle, great but it’s so personal and unique, it’s not like getting them into cycling or judo.

Kanaloa · 20/06/2023 10:23

BlinkeredBay · 20/06/2023 10:09

And that’s the right thing to do, but in no way should it be relied upon.

People using these places with their children, should be 100% sure that the provider is safeguarding them. I’ll be honest, I’m not sure why you’d want to take your child to a place like this? Your lifestyle, great but it’s so personal and unique, it’s not like getting them into cycling or judo.

I wouldn’t. I don’t think naturist clubs should even admit children or teens. And no, I don’t think people should rely on the public, but I think (as the public) we should all make it our own duty to safeguard children. Too many people say ‘oh the social worker will know’ or ‘it’s the teacher who should do that.’ And then kids slip through the cracks. If you know a convicted paedophile is accessing children I think it’s your personal duty to report it.

BlinkeredBay · 20/06/2023 10:29

Kanaloa · 20/06/2023 10:23

I wouldn’t. I don’t think naturist clubs should even admit children or teens. And no, I don’t think people should rely on the public, but I think (as the public) we should all make it our own duty to safeguard children. Too many people say ‘oh the social worker will know’ or ‘it’s the teacher who should do that.’ And then kids slip through the cracks. If you know a convicted paedophile is accessing children I think it’s your personal duty to report it.

I totally agree, every child’s safe guarding is everyone’s responsibility, I feel so sorry for those that have tried and been ignored.

Agree about teens and children being admitted also. Should not happen.

Kanaloa · 20/06/2023 10:34

BlinkeredBay · 20/06/2023 10:29

I totally agree, every child’s safe guarding is everyone’s responsibility, I feel so sorry for those that have tried and been ignored.

Agree about teens and children being admitted also. Should not happen.

Obviously fine for parents though! I mean if they want to be naked then so be it. Not for me but each to her own. But I would not allow my kids to be included in a ‘hobby’ that was just being naked around strangers. Don’t think it sends the right message myself.

QueenVerilas · 20/06/2023 10:34

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 19/06/2023 18:29

I’m British and I don’t see anything wrong with it, certainly in a 6-7 year old. Gdd1 at 5 was perfectly happy to run around starkers at such places. Now 8, I think she’d want knickers, if not a swimsuit.

I wouldn’t think twice about letting the 3 year old go naked, and neither would dd. Some of the replies here do strike me as rather prudish.

The overwhelming number of responses are not that the posters are bothered about children being naked but that they don't want paedophiles to be voyeuring their children or taking photos of them to share online for other paedophiles.

Surely that is only prudery if you think paedophilia is natural and harmless? Which I presume you don't.

QueenVerilas · 20/06/2023 10:41

holaholiday · 19/06/2023 22:57

This is highlighting a really interesting issue….why are we in the uk apparently so concerned about this due to potential paedophiles whereas most of mainland Europe wouldn’t bat an eye???

I suspect this just means that there are more covertly taken images of children on paedophile site from European countries when childhood nakedness is the norm, than of British children.

Britain in general is far more risk averse in terms of our children. Normally I am against this. I think it is good that other countries give children more autonomy at a younger age, walk themselves to school younger, 'riskier' active play more common etc. However, when it comes to the nakedness I think we in Britain have it right. I don't want my kids being sexually looked at by paedophiles, I don't want their images online on paedophile sites.

QueenVerilas · 20/06/2023 10:47

WinterDeWinter · 20/06/2023 09:02

I'm astonished at the near unanimity for 'no child naked at any age'.

To me this is the same argument that misogynist cultures use to force women into 'modest' garments - ie there are bad men around and it is your responsibility to avoid inflaming them.

Paedophiles sexualise children. We don't have to join in.

Oh that's ridiculous, There is a difference between societies dictating what types of clothes women wear and women being totally naked in public and thinking that's ok. Would you want your 14 year old daughter to walk into the centre of town buck naked. Would you think that was acceptable and wise? Would you think, ' why shouldn't she? Just because there are some creeps?'

Its the same with kids.

QueenVerilas · 20/06/2023 10:49

LolaSmiles · 20/06/2023 09:35

I'm astonished at the near unanimity for 'no child naked at any age'.

To me this is the same argument that misogynist cultures use to force women into 'modest' garments - ie there are bad men around and it is your responsibility to avoid inflaming them.

Paedophiles sexualise children. We don't have to join in.

It's not the same at all.
Children and women are NEVER responsible for the actions of vile and predatory men.

Promoting safeguarding is not sexualising children and it's really concerning how often adults wanting boundaries is subjected to a weird version of DARVO, where wanting boundaries is apparently as bad as being a predatory adult.

I have a duty of care to my children.
I teach them the pants rule.
I teach them anatomical terms.
I'm aware that most abuse and harm to children comes from people known to the family.
I'm also aware that predatory adults will seek to gain access to children and will seek to attend places where they can view children.
I have a duty to safeguard my children.
I have a duty to give them clear messages about privacy, consent and boundaries.

Why would I want to do anything that leaves my children with mixed messages about privacy and boundaries when doing so makes them more vulnerable?

The only people who benefit from parents giving mixed messages and relaxing/blurring boundaries between children and adults are the sorts of adults parents shouldn't want anywhere near their children.

Well said.

KarmaIsMyBF · 20/06/2023 10:51

I find it uncomfortable at any age as I know there's dodgy people around.

My kids are only in their nappies at home. Outside in lovely weather and we're at the beach or splash park or whatever then they wear swimming costumes.

Sad we have to think about it but .. yeah some people are grim.

xoomer · 20/06/2023 10:53
KnittedCardi · 20/06/2023 10:54

What I find interesting, is why the British are outliers in this? Someone up-thread said they don't care what others countries do, but why are we so culturally different?

It's not illegal to be naked in public, at any age, but there does seem to be a huge resistance to it here.

BlinkeredBay · 20/06/2023 10:58

KnittedCardi · 20/06/2023 10:54

What I find interesting, is why the British are outliers in this? Someone up-thread said they don't care what others countries do, but why are we so culturally different?

It's not illegal to be naked in public, at any age, but there does seem to be a huge resistance to it here.

For the reasons stated in this thread?

EarthlyNightshade · 20/06/2023 10:59

KnittedCardi · 20/06/2023 10:54

What I find interesting, is why the British are outliers in this? Someone up-thread said they don't care what others countries do, but why are we so culturally different?

It's not illegal to be naked in public, at any age, but there does seem to be a huge resistance to it here.

I don't think I have seen naked adults walking around in any country I've been to, even at splash parks. Which countries do you mean?

BlinkeredBay · 20/06/2023 11:03

EarthlyNightshade · 20/06/2023 10:59

I don't think I have seen naked adults walking around in any country I've been to, even at splash parks. Which countries do you mean?

Exactly wasn’t the naked rambler arrested repeatedly for being naked?

Phos · 20/06/2023 11:06

I don’t think it’s necessary for a kid to be naked at a splash park at any age. Send them in underwear!

I don’t mind them being quickly changed into dry stuff poolside, still do that with my 6 year old on hols (though I think this is the last year we will)

Mojitosaremyfavourite · 20/06/2023 11:07

Mummaneedsabreak · 19/06/2023 15:55

No child should be naked at a public splash park.

Agree

loislovesstewie · 20/06/2023 11:12

I have absolutely no desire to see some random naked person wandering around. Quite frankly I think anyone doing that is an exhibitionist, they are forcing their desire to be naked on others. If a person is with others of a like mind where they aren't inflicting that desire on others, then fine. It's like sex, I don't want to see people having sex in public. It's not prudery but a question of choice. If you have sex with people who want to watch or join in that's your choice, but don't inflict it on others.

OdeToBarney · 20/06/2023 11:12

mindutopia · 20/06/2023 09:46

Personally, none of my children are ever naked in public. I have a family member who is a convicted paedophile. He is a member of a family naturist club (he has no 'family'), I would assume, so that he can have easy access to seeing children naked (children are also required to be naked, if you can believe it, except in certain areas for 'health & safety reasons'. I have no doubt that more public spaces would be a magnet for these creeps.

Please tell me this is not on the London/Surrey border?

cocksstrideintheevening · 20/06/2023 11:16

Also agree no need for any child to be naked at a splash park.

My kids have often been in the sea in their knickers, no different to bikini bottoms and I have no issue with girls just wearing bottoms up until they are uncomfortable / don't want to. Mine wanted to wear a top half post around 7.

Apart from the whole pedo issue, sunburn not great on the genitals.

I wonder if the reaction to this would be the same if it was a boy?

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