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Are UK parents obsessed with getting their kids to bed early?

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RosieLeaLovesTea · 18/06/2023 22:07

Am I the only one that thinks UK parents are obsessed with getting their kids to bed early? I see posts of 7pm/7.30pm, some as early as 6pm.

I work full time and don’t get home until 6.30pm. We don’t eat until 7pm. So generally 9pm is bedtime. Plus it means that if we do go out at weekends our kids are used to going to bed a bit later.

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Grumpyfroghats · 19/06/2023 09:09

@Topseyt123 but you would have seen your kids still - just in the morning not the evening. Mine were in a much better mood first thing than they ever were after nursery so we enjoyed that morning time.

It's fine if 8pm worked for you but people who do early bedtimes still see their children, just at a different time

Beezknees · 19/06/2023 09:15

Well in the UK we start work/school early. In other countries I've been to like Spain shops and places don't start opening until about 10.

Topseyt123 · 19/06/2023 09:16

Grumpyfroghats · 19/06/2023 09:09

@Topseyt123 but you would have seen your kids still - just in the morning not the evening. Mine were in a much better mood first thing than they ever were after nursery so we enjoyed that morning time.

It's fine if 8pm worked for you but people who do early bedtimes still see their children, just at a different time

No. Since they were in nursery from about 8.30am (breakfast there) then we would hardly have seen them in the morning either.

Weekends were our main family time together and it became less of an issue with DD2 and DD3 because my hours changed and I didn't end up going back to that job for practical reasons. DH remained the same for years though and the bedtime routine was set. It never changed as he would never have seen them if it did. Suited me and him.

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S72 · 19/06/2023 09:17

Depends on circumstances.

When my DS was younger, they started with a childminder at 7am as I had to commute for work (single parent). This meant our routine was getting up around 5:45-6am daily.

An early bedtime was important so they got the sleep they needed.

heartofglass23 · 19/06/2023 09:18

It is a weird uk thing.

I want my DCs to be part of my life. That includes evenings.

Wait until they're teens and go to bed later than you!

Grumpyfroghats · 19/06/2023 09:19

Phos · 19/06/2023 09:08

Yes they seem to be. Similarly to how they want their kids to nap for 2 hours a day until they're 4 "so I can have so me time tinkly laugh" Honestly I was pleased when my kid stopped that charade at 19 months, we could go out and DO stuff without needing to get back or have her sleep in the pram.

My DD is now 6. I'd much sooner have a slightly later bedtime and her wake up at a sociable hour. She'd never be able to fall asleep at half 6 anyway. Besides which one day a week she has Rainbows 5-6 and we have dinner after that, another day she has swimming at 7 and another day she's in Forest School or after school club until 5:15. Yeah great, have your adults only evenings, I'd rather spend some time reading, playing or chilling with my kid.

So, in summary, your desire to have your child wake up later and have childfree mornings makes you a better parent than someone who wants their children in bed earlier to have childfree evenings.

It's the same amount of childfree time as children sleep more than adults. It's just about when you have it. And for many parents they are following their child's natural schedule.

I read, play and chill with my children - at the weekends, they bring a pile of books into our bedroom at 7am and it's actually really nice.

Grumpyfroghats · 19/06/2023 09:21

Topseyt123 · 19/06/2023 09:16

No. Since they were in nursery from about 8.30am (breakfast there) then we would hardly have seen them in the morning either.

Weekends were our main family time together and it became less of an issue with DD2 and DD3 because my hours changed and I didn't end up going back to that job for practical reasons. DH remained the same for years though and the bedtime routine was set. It never changed as he would never have seen them if it did. Suited me and him.

Mine were in nursery for 8 but since they were up at 6, that was two hours together - which is a fairly direct swap for what you did in the evening.

pinkpiggypuffs · 19/06/2023 09:22

It depends on your own life as well though. I used to have a long commute meaning dc had to be up early and therefore to bed early.
Many other countries don't even have two working parents let alone two working parents with very long commutes as is standard for many parts of the U.K.

So you have to compare the reality of life within the U.K. to the countries you are speaking about.

Chickpea17 · 19/06/2023 09:26

heartofglass23 · 19/06/2023 09:18

It is a weird uk thing.

I want my DCs to be part of my life. That includes evenings.

Wait until they're teens and go to bed later than you!

So I should keep my daughter up late so we can spend more time together even though by 7pm she is extremely tired and miserable but guess that doesn't matter 🤯. My daughter needs at least 10 hours sleep and need to be at nursery for 8am

Tinybrother · 19/06/2023 09:31

Oh stop it. You know U.K. children who go to bed earlier are part of their parents’ lives, don’t be a windup merchant.

Tinybrother · 19/06/2023 09:33

Chickpea17 · 19/06/2023 09:26

So I should keep my daughter up late so we can spend more time together even though by 7pm she is extremely tired and miserable but guess that doesn't matter 🤯. My daughter needs at least 10 hours sleep and need to be at nursery for 8am

Don’t rise to it, it’s pure windup.

ReeseWitherfork · 19/06/2023 09:34

Rightnowstraightaway · 19/06/2023 09:04

I agree with you. My NCT friends all put their babies to bed at 1830/1900 then complained about the 0430/0500 wakeups.

We were at the opposite extreme. 2200 bed and 0900 wakeups! Not practical once at nursery of course but great for the early years. We always had dinner as a family and Dad wouldn't have seen dc during the week otherwise as he gets home at 1900.

Try and be a safe space for your parent friends to complain to; perhaps try and understand that there are different ways of parenting and your way isn’t the right way. Maybe that’s already the case, but your post seems quite heavy on the judgement. They’re not “complaining” because they’re idiots who haven’t thought of an alternative. Maybe it’s the best scenario even if it means 5am wake ups. Maybe their kids don’t let them get chores done while they’re awake. Maybe they’ve got older kids who need to get up for the school run.

Hugasauras · 19/06/2023 09:34

heartofglass23 · 19/06/2023 09:18

It is a weird uk thing.

I want my DCs to be part of my life. That includes evenings.

Wait until they're teens and go to bed later than you!

You do realise that people live their lives in the mornings too, right? Confused Kids who go to bed at 7pm don't sleep for 14 hours.

Tinybrother · 19/06/2023 09:35

Is it a weird MN thing? Thinking you’re better than other parents because of the time your child goes to bed? (Whether that’s early or late?) why are MNers obsessed with when other people’s children go to bed?

Hugasauras · 19/06/2023 09:36

It's the same as when people eat their dinner! That always gets people upset Grin

Bluebellsinbloom41 · 19/06/2023 09:43

Isyesterdaytomorrowtoday · 18/06/2023 22:21

I’d imagine it’s because school starts at 9, breakfast club/nursery often 8 so given that most young kids need 11-12hrs that’s what works

This. Most young kids need 10-12 hours sleep, so to get up early enough for nursery/school, they need to go to bed early...

Saying that, mine have never gone to bed at 6.30... 7.30-8 is more their natural bed time, though after 8 is pushing it as my DD7 still often needs 11-12 hours sleep

Topseyt123 · 19/06/2023 09:45

Grumpyfroghats · 19/06/2023 09:21

Mine were in nursery for 8 but since they were up at 6, that was two hours together - which is a fairly direct swap for what you did in the evening.

Mine were up at 7. Time for nappy change, get them dressed and give a bottle at the same time as trying to get ourselves ready to go.

stbrandonsboat · 19/06/2023 10:09

My children were ND and their body clocks dictated that they went to sleep around 10pm and awoke around 8am, which I felt was reasonable. From around age four they kept this schedule. They never awoke early, even when unwell.

Phos · 19/06/2023 10:09

Grumpyfroghats · 19/06/2023 09:19

So, in summary, your desire to have your child wake up later and have childfree mornings makes you a better parent than someone who wants their children in bed earlier to have childfree evenings.

It's the same amount of childfree time as children sleep more than adults. It's just about when you have it. And for many parents they are following their child's natural schedule.

I read, play and chill with my children - at the weekends, they bring a pile of books into our bedroom at 7am and it's actually really nice.

A child waking up around 7, isn't having a child free morning. Most people who want their child free evenings also whinge about the 5am wake ups.

MathsNervous · 19/06/2023 10:30

Grumpyfroghats · 19/06/2023 09:21

Mine were in nursery for 8 but since they were up at 6, that was two hours together - which is a fairly direct swap for what you did in the evening.

I have trumped you both, mine are always up 6am even at weekends.

theysaiditgetseasier · 19/06/2023 10:36

I have to be at work for 8.30am, my kids get up at 6.30am-6.45-am Monday to Friday, to be a wrap around for 7.30am, latest they go bed is 8.30pm, when they were under 10 it was 7-7.30pm. I finish work at 3.30 so plenty of time before bed to play etc.

It's not a British thing it's a practicality thing .

Grumpyfroghats · 19/06/2023 10:48

Phos · 19/06/2023 10:09

A child waking up around 7, isn't having a child free morning. Most people who want their child free evenings also whinge about the 5am wake ups.

A child going to bed at 7/7:30 isn't a childfree evening either ...

Phos · 19/06/2023 11:07

Grumpyfroghats · 19/06/2023 10:48

A child going to bed at 7/7:30 isn't a childfree evening either ...

I'd say it was. What time do you go to bed!

Tinybrother · 19/06/2023 11:12

Anyone who spouts the “I love my children more because I like spending all evening with them” bollocks is just as bad as the “I am a better person because I like getting up early” crowd

Bharath · 19/06/2023 11:13

Grumpyfroghats · 19/06/2023 09:21

Mine were in nursery for 8 but since they were up at 6, that was two hours together - which is a fairly direct swap for what you did in the evening.

Who wants to be up at 6 if they could sleep till 8 though? To get up at 6 you would have to start getting ready for bed at 9.30pm, that’s no sort of life for an adult.