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Teacher strikes 5th and 7th July

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noblegiraffe · 17/06/2023 18:39

Just announced, because Gillian Keegan has refused to clarify whether the DfE will accept the recommendation of a 6.5% pay rise from the independent pay review body, and is also refusing the publish the report.

She is also refusing to re-enter into negotiations with teachers and headteachers.

The NEU will be striking in July, all 4 teaching unions, including the headteaching unions are currently balloting for strike action in the Autumn term.

https://www.tes.com/magazine/news/general/teacher-strikes-2-further-days-next-month

Teachers to strike for 2 further days next month

England’s largest teaching union, the NEU, has announced strike dates on 5 and 7 July

https://www.tes.com/magazine/news/general/teacher-strikes-2-further-days-next-month

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Lefteyetwitch · 18/06/2023 11:36

Dumbphone · 18/06/2023 09:42

why?

Why should anyone give a damn what people like you think?
And also I am laughing at the parents stating they don't support us

We don't give a shit about what you think either.
Many can't even parent adequately so we won't be taking on board their criticism.

Lefteyetwitch · 18/06/2023 11:37

Dumbphone · 18/06/2023 11:36

How about not engaging with d of e?

how about mass protests stirring up parent involvement?

how about anything else that doesn’t affect the children?

We need to effect the children to make a point.
Maybe start caring about how we're effected by the shit wages if you want us to start caring about how this effects your kids.

Dumbphone · 18/06/2023 11:39

jenandberrys · 18/06/2023 10:27

You have literally just said that your kids school wasn't closed, that you chose not to access the key worker provision. Do try and keep your story straight, you are looking a little bit foolish.

it was closed, first lockdown no keyworker school at all. For ten weeks or whatever. Second and subsequent lockdowns was open for keyworker kids, but literally told ‘we will not provide an education’ just that the kids could do their worksheets there. Which of course wasn’t a full day’s work, so then bring a reading book and sit in quiet for the rest of the day.

so if you think that isn’t schools closed, don’t know what’s going on in your head tbh… imagine a supermarket - we’ll open, but only some of you can come, we won’t provide food but you can bring your own. What a joke.

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jenandberrys · 18/06/2023 11:44

Dumbphone · 18/06/2023 11:39

it was closed, first lockdown no keyworker school at all. For ten weeks or whatever. Second and subsequent lockdowns was open for keyworker kids, but literally told ‘we will not provide an education’ just that the kids could do their worksheets there. Which of course wasn’t a full day’s work, so then bring a reading book and sit in quiet for the rest of the day.

so if you think that isn’t schools closed, don’t know what’s going on in your head tbh… imagine a supermarket - we’ll open, but only some of you can come, we won’t provide food but you can bring your own. What a joke.

Yes dear, you keep adding to your story, you still sound ridiculous.

BadlydoneHelen · 18/06/2023 12:07

I really don't recognise these stories of schools closed during COVID and no provision: we worked our arses off both in school for keyworker children and online for the others.

meanwhile we can't fill support staff roles for love nor money- one or two applicants if any for each role we are advertising, most of whom are entirely unsuitable. Just checked our county council website and there are currently over 130 jobs for support staff being advertised- best of luck filling those!

rubbishatballet · 18/06/2023 12:08

@jenandberrys I'm not quite sure what the fact that there is no standard alternative childcare provision other than school during term-time has to do with someone's ability to afford children? Are you saying you don't believe that any family with primary school aged children should have two working parents? Seems pretty regressive!

Parker231 · 18/06/2023 12:09

Dumbphone · 18/06/2023 11:39

it was closed, first lockdown no keyworker school at all. For ten weeks or whatever. Second and subsequent lockdowns was open for keyworker kids, but literally told ‘we will not provide an education’ just that the kids could do their worksheets there. Which of course wasn’t a full day’s work, so then bring a reading book and sit in quiet for the rest of the day.

so if you think that isn’t schools closed, don’t know what’s going on in your head tbh… imagine a supermarket - we’ll open, but only some of you can come, we won’t provide food but you can bring your own. What a joke.

Does your DC’s school have a fully funded budget - if not - are you not concerned about the limited education they will receive?

jenandberrys · 18/06/2023 12:10

rubbishatballet · 18/06/2023 12:08

@jenandberrys I'm not quite sure what the fact that there is no standard alternative childcare provision other than school during term-time has to do with someone's ability to afford children? Are you saying you don't believe that any family with primary school aged children should have two working parents? Seems pretty regressive!

Education is not childcare

noblegiraffe · 18/06/2023 12:11

"One class at Rose Hill Primary School is currently being taught by two teaching assistants, one of whom usually works as a cleaner.
This comes amid severe staff shortages at schools across Oxfordshire."

Is this what you want for your kids? It's increasingly common.

[[https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/23594879.parents-arms-staffing-oxford-primary-school/

'Class taught by cleaner': Parents up in arms over staffing at school

One class at Rose Hill Primary School is currently being taught by two teaching assistants, one of whom usually works as a cleaner.

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/23594879.parents-arms-staffing-oxford-primary-school/

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ladyvimes · 18/06/2023 12:14

Can we please stop blaming the teachers and turn our heads to this shit show of a government who have failed to invest in education for years and refuse to acknowledge the dire situation many schools are now in. I’ve been teaching for 16 years and I have seen so so much change in that time. Education and healthcare are the most important parts of our society and we must get them right. Every single teacher I know is trying their bloody hardest to give their children the best education they can but it is being made more and more difficult by lack of funds, lack of staff, increasing demands and expectations and, yes, crap pay.

Headingforholidays · 18/06/2023 12:14

modgepodge · 17/06/2023 18:52

It’s a popular one, I’m on the border of 3 different LAs and they all do 5th July.

I expect senior schools will rearrange though.

It is in our county too. I organise ours and am now panicking about what to do. I support the strikes but I do feel that the NEU could have thought this through better - so many areas do transition on this same week every year. It creates more work and stress for teachers as well as losing sympathy from parents.

noblegiraffe · 18/06/2023 12:16

Before the strike dates were announced, teachers were saying 'what's the point in striking in the summer, no impact, exam classes gone etc'.

And now the concern is that there will be an impact.

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BelindaBears · 18/06/2023 12:16

Lefteyetwitch · 18/06/2023 11:37

We need to effect the children to make a point.
Maybe start caring about how we're effected by the shit wages if you want us to start caring about how this effects your kids.

Are you suggesting teachers don’t care about the effect this has on children? Are you a government plant or just spectacularly good at sabotaging support for this cause?

jenandberrys · 18/06/2023 12:17

rubbishatballet · 18/06/2023 12:08

@jenandberrys I'm not quite sure what the fact that there is no standard alternative childcare provision other than school during term-time has to do with someone's ability to afford children? Are you saying you don't believe that any family with primary school aged children should have two working parents? Seems pretty regressive!

Also not sure what is regressive about the idea that parents should care for their own children. Having two parents working full time is not great for children in reality.

Lefteyetwitch · 18/06/2023 12:17

Why are we extlpcets to care about NHS, Social workers or any other job?

You want better conditions get them. But don't expect us to accept shit because you're happy to

BelindaBears · 18/06/2023 12:18

jenandberrys · 18/06/2023 12:17

Also not sure what is regressive about the idea that parents should care for their own children. Having two parents working full time is not great for children in reality.

🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

rubbishatballet · 18/06/2023 12:19

@jenandberrys But it is childcare! That is literally where my children are taken care of Monday to Friday during term time, as dictated by law. There are literally no other childcare options for their age group during that time, other than to have one non-working parent.

(I also get that it is a lot of other things ahead of childcare, but I'm so sick of the disingenuous and idiotic 'school is not childcare' non-argument)

jenandberrys · 18/06/2023 12:19

noblegiraffe · 18/06/2023 12:11

"One class at Rose Hill Primary School is currently being taught by two teaching assistants, one of whom usually works as a cleaner.
This comes amid severe staff shortages at schools across Oxfordshire."

Is this what you want for your kids? It's increasingly common.

[[https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/23594879.parents-arms-staffing-oxford-primary-school/

The reaction of many parents during covid made it abundantly clear that they are not remotely bothered about what standard of education their children are receiving, if at all, just as long as their free childcare is in place they are happy.

jenandberrys · 18/06/2023 12:22

rubbishatballet · 18/06/2023 12:19

@jenandberrys But it is childcare! That is literally where my children are taken care of Monday to Friday during term time, as dictated by law. There are literally no other childcare options for their age group during that time, other than to have one non-working parent.

(I also get that it is a lot of other things ahead of childcare, but I'm so sick of the disingenuous and idiotic 'school is not childcare' non-argument)

There is no law that states your children have to go to school.

rubbishatballet · 18/06/2023 12:26

Having two parents working full time is not great for children in reality.

Keen to see your evidence for this!

Gingerwarthog · 18/06/2023 12:31

KateyCuckoo · 17/06/2023 19:01

Would teachers forgo a pay rise if budgets for schools were increased? Ie more TAs, better/ equipment and materials and well maintained buildings and grounds.

Just saw this post and wondered if accountants or bankers or anyone working in the legal profession would ever be asked a similar question.
How would they respond if told they could have a pay rise or basic, decent working conditions but not both?

Schoolstrikes · 18/06/2023 12:33

jenandberrys · 18/06/2023 12:22

There is no law that states your children have to go to school.

To be fair, the law states a child MUST be provided with an education, parents can’t work and educate at the same time.

rubbishatballet · 18/06/2023 12:34

There's going to be a hell of a lot less money to pay the teachers if one out of each set of 2 x working parents does the right thing and drops out of the workforce/stops paying tax @jenandberrys Confused

jenandberrys · 18/06/2023 12:38

rubbishatballet · 18/06/2023 12:34

There's going to be a hell of a lot less money to pay the teachers if one out of each set of 2 x working parents does the right thing and drops out of the workforce/stops paying tax @jenandberrys Confused

It’s not as if the govt don’t have the money, it’s how they choose to spend it. Make no mistake there.

Gingerwarthog · 18/06/2023 12:43

YummyMummy1959 · 17/06/2023 20:37

I think that the money grabbing so and so's just need to get back to work and do their fricking jobs.

Another comment that shows the contempt the teaching profession is held in.
Money grabbing so and so's?
Tell that to the teachers and TAs, for example who worked in special schools throughout the pandemic to support vulnerable children with EHCPs.
Those guys had no access to PPE or vaccines at the start of the pandemic and still went in daily.