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A quarter of people in the UK believe Covid was or was probably a hoax (as well as believing other conspiracy theories)

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cakeorwine · 13/06/2023 07:44

Quarter in UK believe Covid was a hoax, poll on conspiracy theories finds | Social trends | The Guardian

"The UK is home to millions more conspiracy theorists than most people realise, with almost a quarter of the population believing Covid-19 was probably or definitely a hoax, polling has revealed.
About a third of the population are convinced that the cost of living crisis is a government plot to control the public, and similar numbers think “15-minute cities” – an attempt to increase walking in neighbourhoods – are a government surveillance ruse, and that the “great replacement theory” – the idea that white people are being replaced by non-white immigrants – is happening."

I guess that there are people out there who believe in conspiracy theories - but I am very surprised by the numbers.

I wonder what the cross over is between theories - in other words, if you believe 1 conspiracy theory, you are more likely to believe another?

Quarter in UK believe Covid was a hoax, poll on conspiracy theories finds

Survey also finds one in seven say violence is fair response to alleged conspiracies such as ‘15-minute cities’

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jun/13/quarter-in-uk-believe-covid-was-a-hoax-poll-on-conspiracy-theories-finds

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AskMeMore · 13/06/2023 11:47

So what level of population sample do you consider statistically significant?

Crikeyalmighty · 13/06/2023 11:50

I'm not a conspiracy theorist at all- covid most certainly existed- there is no logical reason why so many fit and well people in all countries would be ill at the same time and hospitals full of them.

I do however lean towards the view it was man made. A kind of germ warfare- and it got out in error. Many countries engage in this kind of experimentation- I think the UK do too if I remember correctly as part of defence strategy.

Palmfrond · 13/06/2023 11:51

blacksax · 13/06/2023 11:18

Half of all people in the UK are of below average intelligence.

Wobbly understanding of statistics alert! 😅

JamSandle · 13/06/2023 11:52

I didnt think it was at first. But our Government (and Chinas) for that matter are so corrupt I wouldn't be surprised.

110APiccadilly · 13/06/2023 11:53

Palmfrond · 13/06/2023 11:51

Wobbly understanding of statistics alert! 😅

Tbf, true if it's the median.

Palmfrond · 13/06/2023 11:54

LifeIsPainHighness · 13/06/2023 11:44

A mix of different looking people still doesn’t translate into ‘25% of the population’ and the mix cannot be perfectly reflective of the population.

Even academics know that. No researcher thinks surveying a white middle aged many means all white middle aged men will think the same.

Like it or not - this is still just 500 people, and all this faux outraged is, is nothing else, amusing.

Add to this that people who complete voluntary surveys are probably self selecting for a demographic more likely to be exposed to and believe in non mainstream ideas.

StopStartStop · 13/06/2023 11:56

There's no-one left to trust.

hamstersarse · 13/06/2023 11:58

I think the title of "a quarter of people in the UK believe covid was a hoax" is bad reporting but that is the Guardian for you - firstly because 25% did not state they definitely believed it was a hoax, only 9% thought it was definitely a hoax, then 14% thought it to be 'probably sure'. So reporting 'a quarter believe it is a hoax' is just plain wrong.

...and that is why lots of people no longer trust any of the media

That whole piece was really designed by the BBC to attack 'alternative media', let's face it.

Palmfrond · 13/06/2023 11:59

Crikeyalmighty · 13/06/2023 11:50

I'm not a conspiracy theorist at all- covid most certainly existed- there is no logical reason why so many fit and well people in all countries would be ill at the same time and hospitals full of them.

I do however lean towards the view it was man made. A kind of germ warfare- and it got out in error. Many countries engage in this kind of experimentation- I think the UK do too if I remember correctly as part of defence strategy.

Wuhan has a laboratory/ies that is/are used for research into exactly the COVID19 virus type, which are also used for outsourced research by countries such as the US. The escape theory is no longer fringe. Nor is the controversy surrounding the efficacy of the vaccine and its serious side effects.

Itisyourturntowashthebath · 13/06/2023 12:00

A bit back of an envelope calculation but that sample size of the UK adult population would equate to a plus or minus 4% error margin.

AskMeMore · 13/06/2023 12:02

@hamstersarse Even the most brief reading of the article says that a quarter of people said they definitely or probably.

hamstersarse · 13/06/2023 12:04

AskMeMore · 13/06/2023 12:02

@hamstersarse Even the most brief reading of the article says that a quarter of people said they definitely or probably.

I'm reading the actual report not the Guardian article

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/policy-institute/assets/conspiracy-belief-among-the-uk-public.pdf

9% said they definitely believed it was a hoax
14% said they probably thought it was a hoax

That adds up to 23% - AND - 14% are saying 'maybe' not definitely

It's bad reporting from the Guardian

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/policy-institute/assets/conspiracy-belief-among-the-uk-public.pdf

Crikeyalmighty · 13/06/2023 12:05

@Palmfrond I have some long covid issues that came on straight after my4th vaccine. All neurological stuff - I'm not anti vax but I'm definitely not having any more

AskMeMore · 13/06/2023 12:06

@hamstersarse That is bad reporting. They should have said 23% not a quarter.

User15387534 · 13/06/2023 12:12

Well, it was Guardian readers and they certainly walk among us on here

Itisyourturntowashthebath · 13/06/2023 12:14

User15387534 · 13/06/2023 12:12

Well, it was Guardian readers and they certainly walk among us on here

What was Guardian readers?

FourTeaFallOut · 13/06/2023 12:15

Well, numbers aside, I think it is pretty plain that governments has burnt through a significant amount of trust capital through covid.

Expecting people to believe that it originated spontaneously in pissing distance to a research facility tinkering with the sars virus, is a stretch too far for most.

Papernotplastic · 13/06/2023 12:16

’an April survey by Savanta for King’s College London (KCL) and the BBC.’

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/policy-institute/assets/conspiracy-belief-among-the-uk-public.pdf

newnamethanks · 13/06/2023 12:17

IQ of 100 is an average. Therefore a substantial number of people exists, and votes, having an IQ below the average and without a thorough grasp of issues at hand. Such is life. In the circumstances, 23 % is not a surprise.

loulouljh · 13/06/2023 12:17

At last! All the lies are coming out...trust in anything the Government/WHO ever says again in tatters. Vaccination programmes uptake super low....a mess.

Itisyourturntowashthebath · 13/06/2023 12:20

Papernotplastic · 13/06/2023 12:16

’an April survey by Savanta for King’s College London (KCL) and the BBC.’

Probably best not to use quote marks if you are not quoting.

Papernotplastic · 13/06/2023 12:23

‘Thanks’

FedgeHund · 13/06/2023 12:23

Stats show that 15% of people believe in the conspiracy theories that men are women and groups of middle aged women are trying to mass murder transvestites and Autistic children. Even the President of the United States believes it.

I gather most in the UK are remain voters and work in public services.

FourTeaFallOut · 13/06/2023 12:28

FedgeHund · 13/06/2023 12:23

Stats show that 15% of people believe in the conspiracy theories that men are women and groups of middle aged women are trying to mass murder transvestites and Autistic children. Even the President of the United States believes it.

I gather most in the UK are remain voters and work in public services.

Well absolutely. Investing in the correct mis-truths is an investment in social and political capital.

Papernotplastic · 13/06/2023 12:31

The findings, on the eve of the first evidence session of the UK’s public inquiry into the pandemic, which killed more than 227,000 people in the UK, come from an April survey by Savanta for King’s College London (KCL) and the BBC.

’An April survey by Savanta for King’s College London (KCL) and the BBC’

Ok?

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/policy-institute/assets/conspiracy-belief-among-the-uk-public.pdf

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