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There we go Schofield has admitted ‘affair’

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muppetmayhem · 26/05/2023 18:34

Front page of the daily mail for my sins.

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Tinkerbyebye · 27/05/2023 12:14

RedToothBrush · 27/05/2023 08:06

After the Saville stuff TV executives should have been on the lookout for things like this. Then there's been Weinstein. So TV personalities and executives should be aware that they have power over young people which should not be abused.

For years it's been the understanding that in order to get into film, television or music you had to be willing to sleep with someone to get in. It is the very reason I didn't go into the industry. We had a lecture at uni where my class was asked if we would be prepared to sleep with someone to advance our careers. Out of 30, 3 said no. I knew it wasn't for me. I'd already been warned this by a friend who was very involved in the music industry at one point too.

The point is there has supposed to be a clean up of the industry since then. TV executives turning a blind eye or even taking Schofield's word at face value is a bad look for the channel. It's very much not about his personal life. It's about abusing his position to exploit vulnerable younger colleagues. The culture of intimidation and silencing of other colleagues who objected and had concerns with some losing their jobs as a result is part of the pattern of abuse of power.

Eammon Holmes is right to point this out.

The Weinstein scandal began to be under covered in 2017. The orchestrated Schofield coming out was 2019. By this point everyone knew about what was going on. It was all over MN. And that's why there were objections because of the very obvious parallels. But ITV executives still did it and effectively protected Schofield. That was grossly unwise. It demonstrates they didn't properly investigate. They just took Schofield at his word and ignored all the whistleblowers. That's a MASSIVE safeguarding fail.

All the executives involved should be looked into and questions asked.

If it was decades ago this happened or the cover up was pre Weinstein there might be different arguments. That wouldnt mean what Schofield had done was any less bad - what it means is that there are massive duty of care questions and executives have failed to uphold safeguarding younger crew members instead placing the power of the celebrity above their well being.

Schofield could help a kid he'd known since he was 10 get into the industry. That's nepotism and not great but it's not exploitation. The second he embarked on a relationship the balance of power in the relationship is massively off. Schofield knew this. It's not ok.

And there are still questions about when the relationship became sexual. A man saying it was always legal whilst simultaneously saying he's lied and covered up, isn't your best character witness. Especially when he was cheating on his wife to do it. I'm fairly sure others will eventually come out to say they had affairs with Schofield during his marriage too (which makes the whole brave and stunning routine look dreadful - even if he's gay he shouldn't have cheated on his wife). They may be adults but it still won't help Schofield's case.

The whole 'coming out' media parade now looks icky and tarnished. That's an incredibly bad look for the TV executives.

It's not a small story. It's not just about Schofield. It's about how TV executives make their own careers and get viewing figures based on sucking up to certain personalities and protecting them when they should be properly investigated and held accountable for their actions. I've no doubt that lawyers were probably involved at the start because Schofield had big pockets and threatened to ruin the careers of the executives if they did their job properly and investigated properly. And THAT is where similarities with Saville come in (not because TV executives are nonces). It's about intimidation and threats. And again that needs to be looked at in terms of Schofield's behaviour and professionalism. Was he also abusing his position by doing this with OTHER members of staff?

We DO have a number of high profile individuals talking about how he bullied others on set to get his way.

So don't think this is about two consenting adults who are victims of a gay witch-hunt. It absolutely has nothing to do with that.

And sadly it's true that a woman exploited in a similar way probably wouldn't be taken as seriously - but that doesn't diminish the actions of Schofield or the Executives either. It just shows that safeguarding is taken even less seriously when it comes to junior women staffers.

@RedToothBrush

this is it exactly, and thank you for putting it so well

they knew, as did Holly, Eammon and Ruth, although the latter two had to go,and I know Eammon has continued to talk about it. I bet his wife did as well

Holly needs to go, they need a clean sweep across the board, including the back stage staff, who also knew and should have said something

i have no doubt more is to come

Tinkerbyebye · 27/05/2023 12:17

LBFseBrom · 27/05/2023 08:43

I think it is an outrage that anyone should have to 'admit' something so personal and don't blame him for lying. After all, it wasn't just about him but about the young man with whom he had the affair, who may have been terrified of resultant publicity. I can just imagine the hounding from the press he would have received had it gone public. Now it doesn't matter too much.

People are entitled to a private life even if they are well known.

Are you joking! He groomed this child since the age of about 11. Then waited until barely legal before pouncing. And the only reason he came out is because the young person concerned was about to speak, hence being ‘’promoted’

lets be realistic you don't apologise to ITV family and most importantly the DM unless the DM have irrefutable proof he has done something wrong, and it’s not lying about it

Tinkerbyebye · 27/05/2023 12:20

Tillyteacup · 27/05/2023 09:25

Sorry but I dint actually see what he’s done wrong really. He had a consensual relationship with another adult not underage albeit much younger than him. People have affairs all the time. Unless there is more to it I’m struggling to see why he is being vilified just for this.

@Tillyteacup

because there is much more to it, you know the grooming since the runner was 10, he himself admits it was barely legal.

why take out a super injunction so no one can talk about it?

and you don’t apologise to newspapers for lying unless there is some serious allegations about to be made, and you do it as damage limitation.

there is a lot more to come

BeatrixKidd · 27/05/2023 12:22

Babyhustwabtstodance · 27/05/2023 11:40

That's not what I'm arguing. I was rebutting the claim that he was engaging in private SM chats with underage persons and nothing was public.

When the core of the allegations of grooming ARE based on public SM posts.

That's simply not true at all. The public social media posts are a tiny tiny factor, that some members of the general public online have latched on to in search of gossip.

In the real world and amongst people who work in TV (where these 'rumours' have been common knowledge for years), the social media posts don't factor at all.

The grooming allegations have nothing to do with social media.

"I've not heard a thing about Snapchat posts."

Then you clearly haven't been following things at all, and know nothing about it.

Hehehejeiej · 27/05/2023 12:24

It’s a reminder of how TV can be very dangerous ground for young people. There are rules about interacting with young people (chaperones, toilets for exclusive use of minors). To then find out a young man who had a personal relationship with a star was given a role at ITV then went on to have a sexual relationship with that star is beyond comprehension. Schofield presented the idea of a married father while all this was happening. Jobs in TV are few and far between and we now know one of them went to his daughter and the other to his lover. ITV have to answer some difficult questions. I have no doubt Schofield has presented a palatable account of his behaviour and there could be far more to come out of this.

carolinestowcrat · 27/05/2023 12:26

I always wondered what the prompt was that forced Schofield to finally came out of the closet in early 2020. It seems this was it.

Babyhustwabtstodance · 27/05/2023 12:28

Buy you'll still struggle to find someone to forensically search a 'phone without a forensic search being asked for by Police Unless you were willing to spend £££££

And presumably, the young person involved in this case who is now 27 will either decide to not speak publicly or if he does, doesn't need SM evidence since it's been widespread knowledge and he's been named for years in this case.

And PS has admitted to the relationship. So..what would be the point?

But you seem suppppper invested in this so knock yourself out getting enraged online.

Like you do.

GardeningQuestionTime · 27/05/2023 12:31

Itv investigated in 2020 and both parties denied it.

www.theguardian.com/media/2023/may/27/itv-investigated-relationship-between-phillip-schofield-and-employee-in-2020?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

caggie3 · 27/05/2023 12:35

Can YMU say that they have cut all ties in him when his daughter is still a talent manager for them? I'm not saying that I want his daughter who hasn't done anything wrong to be sacked, but when nepotism more than likely got her the job they can't really say they've cut all ties with him. I wonder if she'll get left out to dry as well.

8roses · 27/05/2023 12:37

It’s not that expensive - depends on the amount of data - less than 2 grand for a phone. Used a lot in non criminal matters - family law, corporate investigations etc

Merrymouse · 27/05/2023 12:37

Clare Balding, Sandy Toksvig, Steph McGovern and many others are gay and present high profile main stream television.

Difficult to understand why ITV would have bothered to investigate Schofield’s private life if they weren’t concerned about something more than a relationship between consenting adults.

caggie3 · 27/05/2023 12:40

His daughter Molly is manager through YMU for Stacey Solomon, who is a fairly big name amongst others.

Babyhustwabtstodance · 27/05/2023 12:55

Merrymouse · 27/05/2023 12:37

Clare Balding, Sandy Toksvig, Steph McGovern and many others are gay and present high profile main stream television.

Difficult to understand why ITV would have bothered to investigate Schofield’s private life if they weren’t concerned about something more than a relationship between consenting adults.

I see the point you're wanting to make but they're incomparable. All of those examples were not claiming to be straight, let alone in marriages with men.
They did not announce their sexuality publicly till this century (or they just became famous this century also).

Schofield was famous from the 80s and had a seemingly happy straight marriage for decades.

Schofield was news because he'd presented himself in his TV career as a straight man for decades and in a happy straight marriage for much of that time.

Hehehejeiej · 27/05/2023 13:02

Schofield and his allies are going to come out swinging by saying any criticism is homophobic and using Caroline Flack’s name to get people to back off. All completely cynical tactics.

SamW98 · 27/05/2023 13:08

Hehehejeiej · 27/05/2023 13:02

Schofield and his allies are going to come out swinging by saying any criticism is homophobic and using Caroline Flack’s name to get people to back off. All completely cynical tactics.

And ending their post with #bekind

RhinoMoveFast · 27/05/2023 13:11

Hehehejeiej · 27/05/2023 13:02

Schofield and his allies are going to come out swinging by saying any criticism is homophobic and using Caroline Flack’s name to get people to back off. All completely cynical tactics.

That is very bad timing then, as another Mermaids story is coming out on Sunday in the Telegraph, unless he is going to take as many down with him as possible.

iwantmyownicecreamvan · 27/05/2023 13:13

Babyhustwabtstodance · 27/05/2023 08:28

Now I'm worried what Gordon the gopher may have gone through in that broom cupboard.

Look on Twitter - apparently he is still traumatised.

CheekNerveGallAudacityandGumption · 27/05/2023 13:14

This fella is an “ally of Schofield”

There we go Schofield has admitted ‘affair’
There we go Schofield has admitted ‘affair’
Canthave2manycats · 27/05/2023 13:19

There’s nothing that will convince me that MM was PS’ first rodeo…!!

RhinoMoveFast · 27/05/2023 13:21

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RedToothBrush · 27/05/2023 13:24

At this point given a few posts it's worth saying that posters might want to be wary of what falls into the libellous zone. You CAN say certain things provided they are backed up with evidence, are heavily caveted and worded in a particular way or are making a point that's beyond contention.

There are posts starting to fall outside that.

Anthillveggie · 27/05/2023 13:26

Idontpostmuch · 27/05/2023 11:31

Nobody's denying the fact that gay people have been unfairly treated in the past, but PS has benefited from privileged treatment that wouldn't be afforded to straight people. If he'd left his wife for another woman, he wouldn't have been called brave, but rather something else with the same initial letter.

Just in the past? If only.

50450750q · 27/05/2023 13:29

RhinoMoveFast · 27/05/2023 10:07

I will repeat as it seems to be something thanks upsetting some and when that happens I am on to.something usually.

If someone can't safeguard at work then they can't safeguard at home and their children deserve the same safeguarding if the parent is a millionaire or teacher as any other child does.

Risky people being kind to a sacred caste at work is risky behaviour, better someone who puts in a complaint like RL & EH.

I have no idea what this sacred caste is you keep going on about. Or risky people. Can you talk without using incomprehensible buzzwords?

RhinoMoveFast · 27/05/2023 13:30

If you have no assetts they can not do well in court for damages 😄However I don't want to cause mn grief so withdraw.

RhinoMoveFast · 27/05/2023 13:31

50450750q · 27/05/2023 13:29

I have no idea what this sacred caste is you keep going on about. Or risky people. Can you talk without using incomprehensible buzzwords?

Go on a safeguard course.

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