Immigrant rule on paying 20% less than going rate

[Crikeyalmighty]

I'm not quite sure how this passed me by in the list of ludicrous post Brexit stuff but reading today about the fact that in certain shortage occupations it is possible if using immigrants needing visas to pay up to 20% less than the going rate to obtain visas , provided it's more than minimum wage . Labour I believe want to outlaw it.

The figures today do not suprise me one bit- I have a desk in a centre that also does visa processing- for the last 6 months it has been wall to wall with families from developing countries . Not single youngish people but large families and clearly not all nuclear scientists or brain surgeons or however the gvt tried to make it sound as if it would all be super highly skilled immigration - and all will need medical and housing .

If anyone tries to tell me this makes sense rather than mainly single people here short term from the EU- sorry I'm not having it. At least in the EU we had reciprocal rights in places you possibly would choose to live and work or retire . This way it seems the traffic is all one way .

These are not the governments beloved subject of 'the boats' - this is people flying in with permission to work- I don't think many had this quite in mind when they voted to leave- although I always thought it would end up being the case.

Ah OK I thought it was that they were allowed to be paid less than the minimum wage.

This is why the Tories are suddenly so keen on immigration in recent years.

Yep this. People in this country won't do those jobs because often they're low paid, casual, zero hours contracts which is no good of you want to buy or even rent a home. And I don't blame them.

@THisbackwithavengeance Given that the majority of people on benefits are pensioners,or are already working but get top up benefits due to low wages, I am not sure your not so cunning plan would work. I support immigration, but not unbridled let anyone and their retired grandma in. The Tories essentially stopped EU immigration of younger people with a similar culture and swapped it for immigration from Asia, which seems the more expensive option, as you have to factor in bigger cultural and language issues, which can include bringing extended family members over, who may be retired, so thus have greater need of already stretched public services.In addition to having to factor in building religious worship places, and schools. This is why the Tories targeted the UK Asian community to vote for Brexit, they heavily insinuated that Eastern European workers were essentially limiting jobs for Asian origin workers. And as public services are already stretched,this means less language and integration classes for people coming from a very different culture. It's a shitshow. We need a way to get skilled immigrants,as well as a fast, humane response to refugees, that does not involve sending them to Rwanda. Maybe training for all these jobs we can't fill would be a sensible solution, refugees want to work and be able to pay their own way, they do not travel in leaky boats to get the UK's minimal benefits.

@Neverknowinglyunderbold

If immigrants can live and thrive on the wages paid to them, why can’t born Brits?

Maybe you can explain it to them. MN is full of threads of people struggling with CoL, inflation, lower standard of living - and some are on what might be considered decent wages. So yeah, I'm intrigued as to how immigrants can live and thrive in these circumstances whilst the "born Brits" are unable to.

@NannyOggsWhiskyStash - absolutely correct- I had a desk in a business centre where a company were based doing the fact to face bit with 'legal migration' it was wall to wall every day with people from Phillipines, India, Pakistan etc- all with families with them (needing housing, schools, health care) it wasn't full of young single people from Poland-as pre Brexit!! Gvt made their own bed with Brexit-