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What would you do if you were DH?

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NameChangeSorryNotSorry · 11/05/2023 15:39

DH is an over thinker and getting in a muddle about a job offer. He works in a profession and is currently on £61k. His current work have been stringing him along for almost a year saying he will be promoted ‘soon’ and he’s been doing a number of the senior positions tasks already. He has been approached by another (good!) company and following interview offered a job. Which would you choose:

Job A- new company, next jump on professional ladder, good salary £70k + 8% yearly bonus. He would be a senior role in a smaller team so could move up the ladder faster, also offices abroad to potential for working abroad. Potentially longer hours as more senior.

Job B- current job. Been there 6 years and likes it, nice company which promotes wellbeing. When he informed them of job offer seemed very keen to keep him, said ‘would try to come close’ to offer. Sounds like won’t offer quite the same role (director) but a pared back version of that. DH is worried he’s only finally getting this promotion in a sense due to having a better offer rather than them actually wanting to give it. Financially it’ll be around £67k he thinks. No bonus.

I think Job A- his current work have taken advantage of him imo and are doing the bare minimum to keep him, it’s a good professional opportunity which I think he’d be gutted if he misses. He’s not one for change so I’m hoping others opinions might encourage him!

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Cyb3rg4l · 14/05/2023 00:28

Ok so now you can just add gaslighting to the list of reasons to leave.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 14/05/2023 00:53

Cyb3rg4l · 14/05/2023 00:28

Ok so now you can just add gaslighting to the list of reasons to leave.

And negging like a pick up artist - oh, it's so shit that I laugh at the adverts (when they rejected me, so I'm trying to hide that and knock the DH down for being offered it).

BrummiMummi · 14/05/2023 08:50

Job A every time! If they value him his current company may come back with another counter offer to keep him but he should still go with job A as this is worth so much more for not having to force their hand!

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Kit7 · 14/05/2023 09:36

I’ve been In similar situations before and accepted counter offers. However it completely burns bridges with that prospective employer for the future so that’s something to consider.

also consider pension offerings.

think about the new companies business / financial situation etc is it stable? You’ve got less protection for first 2 years.

Personally I’d say though it’s worth the risk to move, life is short and the money will be handy and will help him move forward further in future.

Loobieloogold · 14/05/2023 09:51

Job A.

In my experience in HR, counter offers about approx 95% of the time do not work. I never suggest them or recommend them. That is not to say that a Senior Manger or Director will go off and do this anyway (in a few different companies). That individual inevitably leaves around 3 - 6 months later. Taking advantage of the slight increase in salary / terms, while still actively looking for something else. It's human nature.

My theory has always been if the individual has been actively looking for something else, "they have already left the building". He should really go for the new opportunity, it is probably a healthy fear of the unknown in his hesitation, and being comfortable where is is currently......but not that comfortable he has put him through a full recruitment process to be somewhere else!

Got to look forward to a new things in Job A!!!!

ReallyTryingTo · 14/05/2023 11:49

Job A for me. The offer at current company won't match the new job offer and current company seem to have taken advantage for too long.

Codlingmoths · 14/05/2023 11:56

Pathetic of that director. The appropriate response is you’re not seeing it from my perspective. I’ve been doing more senior work here for you for some time without recognition and being strung along basically and you still can’t match the job, so laugh all you want but maybe you need to show you value staff so we can see what you’re laughing about. It seems like a great opportunity to me and gets me the career jump I’ve been seeking.

definitely jump! Carpe diem and all that- take the new opportunity!

Toomuchtrouble4me · 14/05/2023 13:00

The money is similar and he’d be leaving a job he’s happy in to step into the unknown. I’d stay in job B but then I’m not very brave.

Cyb3rg4l · 14/05/2023 16:16

Toomuchtrouble4me · 14/05/2023 13:00

The money is similar and he’d be leaving a job he’s happy in to step into the unknown. I’d stay in job B but then I’m not very brave.

Too late for this option I fear, now he’s rocked their way too comfortable boat he’s already marked himself a flight risk. Right now he’s basically filling in until they find a replacement and a reason to fire him.

Devora13 · 15/05/2023 08:25

Job A definitely, providing he feels comfortable about being able to meet the commitments.
Sadly loyalty counts for little in employment scenarios nowadays.
Both my husband and brother in law were berated at interview for saying loyalty to one company (having stated for a number of years) was a positive quality.
The interviewers described it as a lack of ambition.
What the family members saw was people jumping ship from their employer, then returning further down the road on much higher salaries and at higher levels. Or even being 'head hunted' to return.

PeachyPeachTrees · 16/05/2023 21:44

Job A. No brainer, take new job.
Job B, too little too late and then basically calling him stupid if he takes other job seals it for me.

Stewball01 · 25/05/2023 17:44

If he's been he's head hunted I'd take the new job.

KenAdams · 25/05/2023 17:53

What did he decide OP?

NameChangeSorryNotSorry · 25/05/2023 20:08

Hi, so….his current job came back with immediate promotion and a pay rise higher than the other offer. After a lot of deliberation he has decided his current job is a better fit although he’s left it on good terms with the other company.

So not what anyone recommended but he’s happy. Time will tell if the right decision!

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lemmity · 25/05/2023 20:11

Does he have all that in a signed contract @NameChangeSorryNotSorry ? I have a friend who was promised similar by his existing company and declined an external offer, only for the promised promotion to never materialise.

NameChangeSorryNotSorry · 25/05/2023 20:17

@lemmity he does have it all in writing. He’s also got a bonus scheme where he gets 4% for any work he brings in which is high for his industry. So he seems pleased- ultimately I left it up to him completely because I don’t know his industry and I don’t want him to resent me if I’d pushed him either way and it didn’t work out (I don’t think he would!£

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Cooperpops · 25/05/2023 20:24

They knew his worth in that case, glad to hear he is happy, annoying that it takes such extreme circumstances to press what’s overdue but as long as he’s happy and it works for the family then that’s all that matters! Congrats to your partner. x

lemmity · 26/05/2023 11:11

NameChangeSorryNotSorry · 25/05/2023 20:17

@lemmity he does have it all in writing. He’s also got a bonus scheme where he gets 4% for any work he brings in which is high for his industry. So he seems pleased- ultimately I left it up to him completely because I don’t know his industry and I don’t want him to resent me if I’d pushed him either way and it didn’t work out (I don’t think he would!£

Excellent, brilliant outcome then 😊

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