New UC rules to force both partners to work ??

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I can’t find anything online about this but have heard it’s being changed as previously there had to be a certain number of hours worked but this could be by just one partner but now it’s being changed to make both work even though the total household hours don’t change??

This seems very unfair and taking away choice for some families in difficult circumstances. I just can’t find the official guidance is anyone able to link to it ? Thanks

People should continue to have children if they ‘can’t cope’. Now we have free childcare places most people ( severely disabled the exception) should be working and supporting themselves.

I don’t want to pay for benefits to those that would benefit hugely from work. Having no purpose, no autonomy, no direction or future brings a vast array of negative consequences. Hopelessness, depression, loss of motivation, poor health outcomes and provides a shocking role model to their children. Work is not just about money, I am surprised you are not aware of the positive mental health benefits of belonging, a sense of achievement and progress is very good.
Hanging on the precarious nipples of the state is not desirable for most people.

Most people want more for their lives than that. We should help get people into work.

My 17 year old daughter earns £9 an hour that's a Young's persons salary not an adult.

the finances of the country are on its knees

Because a lot of people were STOPPED from going out to work three years ago.

I think all of the non-disabled people who don't have very disabled children who have chosen for years to work full time are largely responsible for the awful treatment of people who are disabled and have had such a difficult time accessing benefits at all and, if they do, being paid such an insufficient amount. The huge increases in the benefits bill led to this crackdown which unfortunately has targeted those who have no choice about whether the work because they literally can't, and that happened because others who could work or work much more than they do have taken the piss like this.

Some of the comments on this thread about how it's reasonable to expect to stay at home taxpayer funded until your child is 3, in the absence of any health issues! Or to be a SAHP because you're "entitled to" but expect others to fund it when there are no health issues. Or moaning about being expected to work 14.5 hours per week each!

It's really eye opening how prevalent such views seem to be. There is only ever going to be so much money available for benefits so I think all the people taking advantage like this are responsible for the poverty of those who cannot work for legitimate reasons: they are taking away from the pot of money out of sheer laziness and should be ashamed. I bet they're also people that claim to believe that the way disabled people have been treated by the benefits system in recent years is unacceptable and yet have cognitive dissonance to the extent that they are happy to live off the funds that should be going to disabled people instead of the lazy people like them who are the very people causing the problem.

This absolutely

The bottom line is we need to get tough or it won’t exist as a safety net for anyone for much longer!

I am clearly taking about a family with a child or children who needs a sahp due to their disability.

@70Sarah So basically when my elderly mum was lying at the top of the stairs with a broken hip last year while waiting hours for an ambulance i should have blamed it on benefit claimants? Wow perhaps you should inform the striking nurses and doctors that thats who they should be directing their ire at.

Sorry I should have been clear children's homes work the same way as care homes it's until the morning 7am. You will find something try looking into WFH jobs and maybe going back to education and learning a new trade.

If you have a bed bound child or one that is severely disabled for life then of course most people would want to help - everyone else should be working.

My niece has a life limiting illness and is extremely disabled, she is a perfect illustration, my sister works full time. The carers allowance and special school provision goes a long way, and my sister enjoys a break from the relentless needs of her dd, which is emotionally very draining. It helps everyone. If she can do it, anyone can.

Nope

I'm in education. I'm 2/3 of a way through a degree as well as having managed to keep up my volunteer work throughout and taking on new roles within that so I have something to put on my CV (well no, because I love it, but it helps). But atm between school run for 3 kids, a lack of term time jobs, and a selfish need to sleep for more than a few hours term time, we're reliant on carers and tax credits. Once the twins are older I'll stop being scum tho eh.

I am very proud of my sister. Her company are very supportive, so when they have hospital apps and tests they are happy for her to go. They have completed the marathon as a team to contribute to the charity supporting my niece. There is a lot of support out there.

Definitely this.

Nope it's been going on a lot longer read about the knock on effects from 2008. The country is broke.

100% this

The key thing here is the special school provision- we can’t even get an EHCP needs assessment ! So it’s not a simple case of she an do it so everyone can

And I should say I don't think I DESERVE to not work. DS is less disabled than he was, I chose not to abort when we learnt we'd got twins, quitting when DS was tiny and critically ill was a big decision. But sometimes the barriers aren't just fecklessness, selfishness and laziness.

Is your cold bed bound?

What are you studying?

child

Quite often yes, multiple medical issues (ME, ulcerative colitis, Pots, EDS) and SEN (autism adhd and a learning difficulty)

Swear I'm not just copying your user name.... Biology, with a view of going into teaching long term but that was pre twins. Every one is quick to tell me I won't do a teaching training year with 3 kids in Primary. My volunteer work builds up my catering and fundraising experience tho so that might be more useful in two years

That’s amazing 😊