Shein

[Touty]

Has anyone used them. They look like they have some lovely clothes for a good price?
quality?
any feedback?

These posts about smartphones are weird. Sure I’ve got a smartphone. It’s years old and I’ll use it until it literally can’t be used anymore. Same approach to clothes - I don’t own much, and most of what I own is ancient or second hand. This is partly because we haven’t got much money and partly because new stuff for the sake of new is a bad way to live, be it technology or clothes. If you think Shein’s approach to selling clothes is to encourage people to own a very few number of their items, look after them and wear them year after year you are horribly kidding yourself. I’d say the same to anyone who thinks they need a new smartphone every 6 months as well.

Being on disability benefits and plus size makes Shein an absolute life saver, I can actually afford to look halfway decent, I can afford more than the 2 pairs of jeans that were passed onto me by MILs OAP neighbour. You can preach about the morals but I deserve to own nice clothes too. Go after the people at the top who can make the changes don't punch down it doesn't do anything.

My phone is second hand. I also don’t drive and haven’t been abroad in years. Am I allowed to be against how Shein operate?

Nobody is punching down at you. You can buy within your means (even Shein) and still have morals, the two aren't mutually exclusive.

You can still buy from cheap brands and keep the clothes. You can buy form them without being wasteful and throwing them away in a few months. You can buy from them and acknowledge their practices are harmful.

This is the problem - "I deserve nice things" takes precedence over literal slavery.

All these people going on about ethics, I wonder how many of you eat chocolate from Cadbury, Nestle, Kitkat, Hersheys, shop at Zara, H&M, Nike, Addidas, smoke cigarettes, have smart phones, use Apple devices… all have been proven to use child labour and dubious unethical practices.

We’re truly doomed if the response to the terrible practices of this vile company is “look mummy the other children are doing
it too”. My friend worked on a documentary on this admittedly a while ago and Zara were the best of the shops for fair treatment.

I'm sure I will and can get on with ordering more 👍🏼😘

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I used this in a 6th form lesson on business ethics. I'm not a bleeding heart liberal by any means but there are some practices that really should not be just ignored because we want a shiny new top.

Shein do lot of things well

• good placing in Google searches
• massive range of products
• wide age range
• tapping quickly into trends
• reviews with photos

But ultimately it's in China. The stuff has to be shipped half way across the world and then maybe sent back again.

Did you consider the ethics of PPG kids who had to spend their lesson time being informed that their only means of accessing affordable clothing made them bad people compared to their wealthier peers?

As if Shein is the only possible source of cheaper clothing.

eBay, Vinted, charity shops etc all exist. Shops have sales.

There is no right to fashionable clothing obtained through slavery.

As if we didn't have identical threads about Primark before Shein.

Or charity shops were to clothe the poor rather than make money for the charity.

Or teenagers had the ability to stop growing until sales time.

Remind me again why they shouldn't have access to clothing? Perhaps they should stop attending college? You know, can't be having the Poors getting a levels, how dare they be from a family that doesn't have money to waft about on organic linen.

I can't believe people are actually ok with slave labour for a pretty top this is shocking 😮

Have found the sizing to be terrible and the quality dubious. Made two purchases, never again

The kind of clothing Shein produces is not only unnecessary (as in, it's fast fashion, not a decent winter coat) but crap quality and appalling for the environment, along with it's awful employment ethics. The students I showed it to are actually more interested in that then you might imagine. As pp have said, there are plenty of other options that are more ethical than Shein et al and just because it's not the only "bad" company out there, doesn't mean we shouldn't highlight that.

I bought a Christmas jumper from there (I wanted something cheap, not spending a fortune on a Christmas jumper) it was great. So then I bought a pair of trousers and they ripped after one wear.

If your focusing on buying from Shein as being morally reprehensible because of slavery, then you do have to include purchase of smartphone and other more expensive clothing.

Slavery doesn't become acceptable because you buy the item less frequently.

Don't critisie someone for buying from Shien because the clothing is made by slaves, then deem buying smartphones as OK because it is environmentally-sound slavery. That is hypocrisy.

Less hypocritical is admitting that it is exceedingly difficult not to buy products that exploit worker (and also have a negative environmental impact) but you can minimise your contribution to it by avoiding companies like Shein.

@AnImaginaryCat I agree actually, that it can be extremely hard to buy and live ethically and I am in absolutely no way any kind of eco-warrior, human right champion. There's an excellent take in this by the series The Good Place. It's a comedy about the afterlife and (without spoilers) covers the idea that it's almost impossible in the modern, globalised world to live in an ethically sound way, even if you're really trying. But there are some fairly easy choices we can make and not supporting this sort of industry is one of them.

Maybe people aren't but can't afford to shop elsewhere.

All these suggestions of charity shops are ridiculous.

Whenever I've been in them they don't have a good range of sizes, so finding something plus size is hard.

They also have years out of date styles and rarely anything fashionable or flattering.

Are people with less money supposed to walk around looking a state? Or only buy other peoples cast offs? Why should they never have anything new?

And what if you need something specific by a deadline? You can't continually trawl charity shops until you find what you need. Especially if you don't live within walking distance and need to pay fares or petrol and parking to get to them.

And vinted and ebay isn't everywhere, I don't believe it's a thing where I live (eu).

It doesn't matter how poor you are - slavery is not the answer.

"I can't afford fashionable clothes, therefore I'm going to use slavery to get them".

"I can't afford a cleaner or childcare, so I'm going to use slavery".

"I can't afford to go to a nice restaurant, so I'm going to go to the one which uses slaves".

Why is only one of these statements apparently acceptable?

There is nothing wrong with second hand clothes. You don't need to "look a state" wearing them either. But in any case, you "looking a state" is much less of a problem than actual slavery. Why do you think it's more important for you to look good over the freedom of other human beings?

Because people need clothes to wear. Having a cleaner or going out for a meal isn't a necessity, but clothes are.

Second hand clothes are not always accessible to everyone. I've never found anything in a charity shop that I could wear. I work in an office and the dress code is smart casual, I couldn't just turn up in mismatched clothes four sizes too big.

I buy from SHEIN. They have a lovely range of bigger sizes and I’ve had dresses from there for the last 3 years. The clothes last if you look after them.

Most cheaper clothes shops use Chinese factories. New Look, Next, supermarkets. You can’t escape it if you’re on a lower income.

I’m on minimum wage but still have to look tidy for work. We’re in a cost of living crisis. People are having to make their money stretch.

The one where an alternate version would never be

'I've got an interview in an accountancy practice on Thursday. It's my first interview in six months. They said I will be fine in my 5 year old trackie bottoms and a vest top, as they don't care what their receptionist looks like and the clients will be told to go fuck themselves if they make any comments'.

Clothes are a necessity, yes. Fashionable clothes and fast fashion are not, they are a want.