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Middle ground retorts for critical MIL

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PrinceHaz · 15/04/2023 10:51

MIL has been here for a week. She is fundamentally nice but she cannot stop herself from a cavalcade of criticisms of my house e.g. you need a cleaner, this garden is completely overgrown, you’ve ruined that child and so on. She seems to have no filter in this area. For context, she's a very impulsive person e.g. grabbing and squeezing things in shops when you’re not meant to touch them, commenting rudely and loudly about people nearby, bursts of intense housework. I think if she was born more recently she might get an ADHD diagnosis.
This morning I sat down to eat my breakfast and she said. “This drawer is a total mess,” to which I replied, “can you criticise my house when I’ve finished my breakfast, I’d just like to sit down and eat first.” (my first actual response to her rudeness this week - normally I just say something non-commital). She was a bit shocked and repeated back to me what I’d said.
In the past, she has been a lot more cutting and I’ve not been unable to withstand it, meaning we’ve had periods of semi estrangement. Now, she’s in her late 80s and I’m keen not to upset her regardless of how she speaks to me, I think, on balance it’s best not to challenge someone of that age unless really necessary. Anyway, any tips on assertive but kind retorts, gratefully received.

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PrinceHaz · 15/04/2023 10:53

To add, I’m not going to say, “Did you mean to be so rude?” to her. That would be disastrous and she would kick off.

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Eggseggseverywhere · 15/04/2023 10:55

Surely just repeat back what she said when dh is around?
Dh, your dm says the drawer is messy..
Dh, your dm says dd is spoilt. Let him respond to her.

Treasureboxkey · 15/04/2023 10:56

You don't have to come.
That's what I finally said to my offense MIL after years of this kind of crap.

HRTeatime · 15/04/2023 10:59

I/we like it this way.

Ariela · 15/04/2023 10:59

To the drawer being messy:
If you have the time would you like to rearrange it?
To needing a cleaner /gardener:
Would love one but sadly cannot afford one right now, but feel free to help if you want to clean/garden?

Eggseggseverywhere · 15/04/2023 11:00

I did once tell my mil she knew where the door was.
And once dh manhandled fil to their car.. Awkward but a long time coming.

Cherrysoup · 15/04/2023 11:01

How would she react if you said ‘You’re constantly criticising, why not give that a rest?’

Pahpahpotato · 15/04/2023 11:02

‘Oh I don’t really care’ would be my response but I expect that’s not what you were thinking. Also she’s not ‘fundamentally nice’ if she’s saying you’ve ‘ruined’ your child, wtf?!

thistimelastweek · 15/04/2023 11:02

I would just say ' yeah, I know'.

Wishimaywishimight · 15/04/2023 11:08

A bored "Really?" or "You think?" while gazing into the distance i.e. don't give her comments the slightest bit of attention.

Or, if you have reached the end of your tolerance; "Gosh, I would never be so critical of someone else's house/garden/child."

TrombonesAreNotBones · 15/04/2023 11:11

I would say oh well mildly to the criticisms.

I did like your 'pls wait til I have had had my breakfast before you start this morning'. Maybe re-use that?

thecatsthecats · 15/04/2023 11:13

It's its own kind of ageism not to pull up old people on their crap.

I have a much more straightforward relationship with my mum than my sister does because I'm far more willing to tell her when she's out of line, whilst my sister tries to control the situation so it doesn't happen.

I've never suffered for telling someone they were out of line.

Either their behaviour improves or they fuck off in a huff. Win win.

Softoprider · 15/04/2023 11:14

What do you normally say to her OP? When she says something like this?

WelshNerd · 15/04/2023 11:16

Eggseggseverywhere · 15/04/2023 10:55

Surely just repeat back what she said when dh is around?
Dh, your dm says the drawer is messy..
Dh, your dm says dd is spoilt. Let him respond to her.

This is what I do and it works really well. If DH is not in earshot say "you're right, I'll tell DH to make more effort in the drawer tidying department"

Sussyknowsthemeaningoflife · 15/04/2023 11:23

I rather like " I don't care" as a response. I will be using this from now on with my MIL.
I agree she is not fundamentally nice if she is constantly criticising your home and your family.

StaceySolomonSwash · 15/04/2023 11:23

"This drawer is a total mess"

<surprised look and push drawer shut>
What were you looking for in my drawer? You've only to ask if you need anything, no need to rummage.

Try not to tilt your head and do a tinkly laugh because you'll look deranged.

Other responses could be

"out of sight out of mind"

"we like it this way"

"how does that affect you?"

PilshardPillToSwallow · 15/04/2023 11:24

@WelshNerd

I tried that and Mil retorted with how much dh has to do in the house and how I was putting too much on hmm

WelshNerd · 15/04/2023 12:08

That's the beauty of it. When it becomes her son's problem, it's suddenly not so important!

PrinceHaz · 15/04/2023 12:31

I spoke too soon. She’s stormed off to get the coach home! She had absolutely no sense of how rude she was, just how rude my reply was. She made a huge deal of hauling her case downstairs, told dp how rude I was and told me it’s not my house as she put money into it!
Anyway, as always happens, I’m meant to be the bigger person because dp doesn’t want to deal with the fallout. I’ve decided not to be the bigger person today. I’ve managed to send dp, dd and MIL out to lunch then she’ll be away on the coach and with any luck not darken my door again.

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NillyNoMates · 15/04/2023 12:47

That’s a result!

Greenshake · 15/04/2023 13:07

Well done 🙂 bet it feels good!

Treasureboxkey · 15/04/2023 13:10

Oh dear. I bet that you are heartbroken.

When your DP starts complaining, as they so often do when we don't do what is 'expected' of us, remind him that this could have been avoided if he'd put a stop to it long before now.

Enjoy the peace!

Heroicallyfound · 15/04/2023 13:11

Oh wow, good for you! 😃👏

AliceOlive · 15/04/2023 13:15

Result!

I’m sorry, actually. I know you’ll all feel bad but you did nothing wrong.

I was going to suggest you get a piece of paper out and start making a list. Every time she said something like this you add to the list “clean drawer” or whatever. So that maybe she’d see how ridiculously critical she’s being.

PrinceHaz · 15/04/2023 13:31

It is a result, yes! I. In my 50s and I have no interest in keeping the peace for a man and his rude mother.

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