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Middle ground retorts for critical MIL

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PrinceHaz · 15/04/2023 10:51

MIL has been here for a week. She is fundamentally nice but she cannot stop herself from a cavalcade of criticisms of my house e.g. you need a cleaner, this garden is completely overgrown, you’ve ruined that child and so on. She seems to have no filter in this area. For context, she's a very impulsive person e.g. grabbing and squeezing things in shops when you’re not meant to touch them, commenting rudely and loudly about people nearby, bursts of intense housework. I think if she was born more recently she might get an ADHD diagnosis.
This morning I sat down to eat my breakfast and she said. “This drawer is a total mess,” to which I replied, “can you criticise my house when I’ve finished my breakfast, I’d just like to sit down and eat first.” (my first actual response to her rudeness this week - normally I just say something non-commital). She was a bit shocked and repeated back to me what I’d said.
In the past, she has been a lot more cutting and I’ve not been unable to withstand it, meaning we’ve had periods of semi estrangement. Now, she’s in her late 80s and I’m keen not to upset her regardless of how she speaks to me, I think, on balance it’s best not to challenge someone of that age unless really necessary. Anyway, any tips on assertive but kind retorts, gratefully received.

OP posts:
Mummyoflittledragon · 15/04/2023 15:56

Well done. That’s a result. Im also too old for that shit as well.

Starseeking · 15/04/2023 16:04

HRTeatime · 15/04/2023 10:59

I/we like it this way.

This all the way. She'll have no come back if you don't ask a question like some of the suggestions here. This answer completely shuts that option down, and she'll have no way to take her remarks forward.

Extra points for saying it with a big smile plastered on your face.

Starseeking · 15/04/2023 16:05

PrinceHaz · 15/04/2023 12:31

I spoke too soon. She’s stormed off to get the coach home! She had absolutely no sense of how rude she was, just how rude my reply was. She made a huge deal of hauling her case downstairs, told dp how rude I was and told me it’s not my house as she put money into it!
Anyway, as always happens, I’m meant to be the bigger person because dp doesn’t want to deal with the fallout. I’ve decided not to be the bigger person today. I’ve managed to send dp, dd and MIL out to lunch then she’ll be away on the coach and with any luck not darken my door again.

Result!

Ithurtsthebackofmyeyes · 15/04/2023 16:07

She doesn’t sound fundamentally nice. She sounds rude as shit and completely lacking in self awareness. Still, she’s solved your problem by storming off. Goodo.

I hope your husband isn’t a twat about it.

ImAvingOops · 15/04/2023 16:10

Has she put money into your house though? Not excusing her rudeness but if she gave her son money for a deposit, she might feel personally invested in the state of the house. I think circumstances might be relevant here.

Felicity42 · 15/04/2023 16:11

Why did she put money into your house?

"it’s not my house as she put money into it!"

That's the issue. She thinks you aren't keeping HER house well enough.
Can you pay her back? Or why does your DH let her speak to you like that?

ImAvingOops · 15/04/2023 16:12

Also you say dp not dh - did you move into his house? Is your name on the deeds?

whynotwhatknot · 15/04/2023 16:16

good for you but like pp is your name on the house please say it is or you'll have nothing if it al goes wrong

Notonthestairs · 15/04/2023 16:20

ImAvingOops · 15/04/2023 16:10

Has she put money into your house though? Not excusing her rudeness but if she gave her son money for a deposit, she might feel personally invested in the state of the house. I think circumstances might be relevant here.

No excuse for commenting on the contents of a drawer.

Or the commenting that the Op had ruined their child.

Just plain rude & unnecessary.

Atethehalloweenchocs · 15/04/2023 16:21

Answer everything with 'yes, you are probably right'. And then go on with your day.

PrinceHaz · 15/04/2023 16:22

Thanks for all your comments everyone. I was just thinking bout the reply I’m going to have to give to dp when he gets in. He’s not going to kick off but he will want a resolution that involves me giving way.
They’ve been out at a restaurant then dropping her off, unless, god forbid, she changed her mind and is coming back!
To add, this week, I’ve taken her out alone everyday: shopping trip, garden centre, RHS, booked things online for her, had to see her naked (I won’t go into that!) and so on. She behaves when we’re out, but I’ve endured constant criticism at home.
Re: the mortgage money. When we moved here, she gave dp a lump sum towards the house . As far as I was concerned that was between her and him and I out in my chunk. Her comment about it not being my house was extremely out of order and I think I’ll have a hard time allowing her back here.

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HideousKinky · 15/04/2023 16:22

I have an all-purpose response to people who criticise anything in my home - I say "Well it's a good thing I live here and not you, isn't it, because it's fine with me" (said in a light & breezy tone before moving conversation on)

Inthesamesinkingboat · 15/04/2023 16:29

I think you need to be clear to your DP that this is your home and you don’t expect to be criticised in your own home. If there is confusion because she has helped him out with his portion of the deposit that is their business and nothing to do with you.

FictionalCharacter · 15/04/2023 16:30

Result! She most certainly isn't a fundamentally nice person, she's a very rude old lady and extremely ungrateful for your hospitality. Old age doesn't justify behaviour like that.
Your reply to her was perfectly reasonable and it isn't your duty to endure this treatment just because DH won't pull her up.

ImAvingOops · 15/04/2023 16:30

I do think it muddies the waters a bit when she has given her don money and paid a chunk - it's absolutely your house if you've paid your share but it sounds like she's thinking that she has paid in more than you, or doesn't know you've paid in at all. This is something your dp is responsible for setting her straight on. You are right in that if she has given him money that's between him and her but he needs to make clear that gifts with strings aren't gifts and that she has no entitlement to say it isn't your house.

As with most things this is sounding in part like a dp problem.
Don't let him make it your issue to solve - she was rude.
If there's a visit next time, it has to be 100% your dp's job to host her!

KickAssAngel · 15/04/2023 16:30

You're right about the money. She gave it to dp. It is no longer hers. If this comes up again, perhaps you could point out to dp that technically, it's your house, according to her thinking.

BlackFriday · 15/04/2023 16:31

You are not going to win this unless you are committed to making more of a fuss than she is.
Remind him who it is he wishes to sleep with.

FictionalCharacter · 15/04/2023 16:32

he will want a resolution that involves me giving way
He's out of order for wanting to appease her instead of supporting you. Stand firm!

LookItsMeAgain · 15/04/2023 16:35

Just say to your DP what you've posted above

  • You've looked after his mother with good grace while having to listen to her complain left, right and centre about our home
  • To top it off, you even had to see her naked, which goes way above and beyond what is acceptable.
  • She even had the gall to raise that this is 'her' house, and you need them to set her straight on that one. She gave your DP a sum of money and your DP put it towards the house,
  • She did not and does not have any say in the house and as your partner, you would expect them to dissuade her of this notion.
  • This morning you just wanted to have your breakfast without being on the receiving end of yet more criticism and when you asked for that, she threw a strop!
  • You are not going to apologise to her as you have nothing to apologise for.

That is how I'd bullet point the situtation.

Purpleboat · 15/04/2023 16:36

@thecatsthecats i agree. We have this scenario in my family too. I think if everybody did a little more calling people on their rude, out of line behaviour it would help.

VerveClique · 15/04/2023 16:44

My FIL is like this. A PIA in many ways. But lovely in others, and not very well.

I agree with EVERYTHING he says. Then I completely ignore whatever he’s said.

He doesn’t give a shit about the state of our house, or what the DCs are up to. If he did, he’d have involved himself a whole lot more over the years.

So I agree with everything he says.

FIL: Your garden untidy.

Me: Yeah, it is a bit.

FIL: I think women probably shouldn’t work as much as they do, it’s been the final nail in the coffin of family life.

Me: Yeah, I can see why you think that.

FIL: You should do this/buy that/go to such a place.

Me: Yeah, we’ll have a think about that.

Basically he just wants to fill the air with his own thoughts, and this diatribe of telling me/us what to do deflects us from asking him why he was an absent father to DH, why he hasn’t provided for his old age, why he hasn’t involved himself with us more over the years.

He couldn’t give a crap about our views on anything really. So this just fills the time.

This works because DH and I agree on it. I can manage this for about 5 days at a time.

m00rfarm · 15/04/2023 16:47

THe bit about the money I would find totally unacceptable. If you put in an equal amount to your husband (via her money) it is not even true - let alone it being an unacceptable comment, irrespective of who put what money into the property.

GG1986 · 15/04/2023 16:49

Quite simple really- stop inviting the witch to stay! My mother is highly critical about my house, so I rarely invite her over now and that is her problem not mine!

harriethoyle · 15/04/2023 16:51

What a poisonous old baggage - she has really shown her true colours with that house remark hasn't she? Strongly agree you shouldn't give way on this one - DP can go and see her at her home if she wants to. Not your circus, not your monkeys.

Veryverycalmnow · 15/04/2023 16:56

Well done OP! Maybe she will keep her criticisms to herself next time, if she's ever invited again.

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