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The world has gone completely mad

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Hobnobswantshernameback · 05/04/2023 17:50

So a Spanish actress has had a baby via a surrogate. The actress is in her late 60s
The child was conceived using her dead son's sperm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65186636
I have no words

Ana Obregón in Madrid, Spain, in February 2023

Spanish TV star Ana Obregón reveals surrogate baby is her late son's

Ana Obregón, 68, reveals a baby born in the US was fathered by her son who died of cancer.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65186636

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Weallgottachangesometime · 05/04/2023 21:46

I just find this utterly selfish. Very little regard for the infant. All based on meeting the woman’s own needs. Fucking ridiculous and I question how it was allowed to happen at all- do the clinic involved have no ethical processes.

justasmalltownmum · 05/04/2023 21:47

She did an interview with hola magazine. The child is her grand child, via a surrogate using her sons sperm. Apparently it was her sons dying wish.

justasmalltownmum · 05/04/2023 21:48

Surrogacy isn't allowed in Spain so she did it abroad.

Partyandbullshit · 05/04/2023 21:50

That poor child. What a future she has ahead of her.

Weallgottachangesometime · 05/04/2023 21:53

justasmalltownmum · 05/04/2023 21:47

She did an interview with hola magazine. The child is her grand child, via a surrogate using her sons sperm. Apparently it was her sons dying wish.

It must be devastating to know you will die so young and I understand wanting to feel you have left a mark on the world……..but producing a whole real life child specifically for your own need. Still incredibly selfish.

Stickmansmum · 05/04/2023 21:57

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Jesus. Massive sweeping statement. You would have no idea in many cases that a surrogate was used.

Wabbly · 05/04/2023 22:01

Ana Obregón has been quoted as saying 'I will never be alone again'

Her disconnect here is startling.

Her newborn granddaughter will be alone at some point .. and sadly much sooner, rather than later.

There's another disconnect with Ana, in that I've just read a Spanish article (Google translates it into English) in which it describes the family history in great detail, and how Ana Obregón always got the 'utmost support' from both of her parents regarding her professional and her personal life, right throughout Ana's lifetime, from Ana's cradle to their (recent) grave.

Ana's mother was 95 when she died last year. Her father died a few months later. Ana was so grief-stricken that she no longer felt able to celebrate Christmas.

This closeness and connection she enjoyed with her parents was precious for Ana for 67 years, and it's something that she won't be able to give nor share in anyway near an equal timespan with her new granddaughter, as time is definitely not on hers nor her granddaughters side.

It's quite incredible, and unnerving, that someone would deliberately deny a newborn baby the very thing that is most precious to themselves and to their own wellbeing throughout their own lifetime of sixty-eight years?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 05/04/2023 22:03

How is she regarded as this child's mother? She didn't provide the egg and she didn't gestate the child. She has a genetic connection only because the biological father is her deceased son. She's far too old to have become a mother by any natural means. The fertility clinic that made this possible clearly has no ethics at all. None of this is in the baby's interests.

Luredbyapomegranate · 05/04/2023 22:06

MyriadOfTravels · 05/04/2023 18:41

This is someone who hasn’t recovered from losing her son.
Grief can take many shape and form.

But the poor baby 😢😢 At best they have what? 10 years in front of them with their (adoptive) mum before becoming an orphan.

It sounds like this woman has lost the plot, what’s wrong is that she was allowed to do it.

WeAreTheHeroes · 05/04/2023 22:08

She's registered as the child's mother in the place she was born.

BringItOnxxx · 05/04/2023 22:13

Social services in Spain should intervene, and have the child adopted, by a family.

Bluebells1970 · 05/04/2023 22:18

It's so unethical that there are no words...

SaturdayGiraffe · 05/04/2023 22:20

She is obviously assuming she will live to 95 as well.
Perhaps a younger husband will be enlisted.
I agree, it seems the child is more like an object, a slave.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 05/04/2023 22:20

She's bought this child, effectively. When a baby is born, everybody present knows who the mother is. The mother may or may not confirm who the father is. In the case of surrogacy all of that is turned upside down. The mother who gave birth to the child says 'Give the baby to that person over there who paid me' - or would if she was honest.

slowquickstep · 05/04/2023 22:23

What a selfish old woman. The life of this poor child has not been taken into consideration. Shame on those that allowed it.

TrombonesAreNotBones · 05/04/2023 22:24

She refuses to rule out providing her granddaughter with a brother or sister.

boke. 🤮

ThomasinaLivesHere · 05/04/2023 22:25

Poor baby. Surrogacy is so wrong and it’ll be cases like this which will wake people up to it.

Inaea · 05/04/2023 22:30

It’s no surprise that a dying man regretted never being a father, or that a bereaved mother who clearly has a lot of ‘issues’ desperately wanted to carry out her son’s last wish and continue her own genetic lineage, and threw money at the problem.

It is a surprise that doctors were prepared to create a child in these circumstances. That is the issue. Ethics and regulation of the medical profession seems to have really deteriorated this century.

cupofteaandabiccyplease · 05/04/2023 22:31

Menopause is for a reason. Such a selfish woman to do this.

PartingGift · 05/04/2023 22:34

It’s no surprise that a dying man regretted never being a father

...morbid opinion, and I guess I can't say how I would feel for sure as I am not in the situation, but if I were to discover I was dying right now, I think I would take comfort in the fact that I am not leaving a child on their own in this world. Though my own parent died when I was young and it has probably messed me up a bit.

I really can't wrap my head around how this was allowed to happen. Just shows if you have enough money, you can do pretty much whatever you want, no matter how selfish it is.

HalliwellManor · 05/04/2023 23:03

I am 46 and lost my 22 year old son to Cancer in November 2021,before he started chemo,he was advised to bank his sperm,which he did.He and his girlfriend had just been approved for IVF before he passed away.
If I had the opportunity to have a surrogate have his child then Yes,I would.I would love a grandchild by my deceased son and would raise that child as my grandchild.Just having part of him alive in this world would be amazing and that child would be so loved and cherished by every single member of my family.
As a bereaved mom,I can completely understand why she chose to do this.

maddy68 · 05/04/2023 23:07

While I got the ick. Wtf does it have to do with me or anyone else. His child is wanted and loved that's a that will matter

MaidOfSteel · 05/04/2023 23:11

She seems to still be grieving and has bought this baby to fill a gap in her life; to replace her son. It feels all kinds of wrong and she has been incredibly selfish.

Circumferences · 05/04/2023 23:13

For this to happen naturally she'd have had to fuck her own son?

WhiteBloatus · 05/04/2023 23:16

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Never considered this before but true!