Radford family /family vloggers

[Scottishdreams1991]

I often wondered how adult children would feel once they grew up. Isnt it time for proper laws regarding Children essentially working including income protection.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/21939995/millie-radford-attack-sue-accused-making-money-family-grandchildren/amp/

One I saw recently that really shocked me too was an ‘orthodox’ family who preached modesty. They made an in depth video of their kids trying on ‘modest swimsuits’ because they don’t like their kids being too exposed at the water park. So they decided to make a video showing all the rejected ones which weren’t modest enough/nice, and then broadcast their kids at the water park so anybody could watch without even buying a ticket.

There’s someone local to me who has a family day out blog/SM. This centres around filming her 2 very overweight children (sorry but they are) eating massive meals or at water parks in their swimsuits. I can’t imagine they will be pleased about it when they are young adults somehow. Imagine if everyone at school saw them. All just to get some free days out.

Imagine if everyone at school saw them

Ah no need to worry about that, the new trend for these crap parents seems to be home education. Which is actually no education, socially isolating their children and maximising the amount of time they can film them. 😥

I home educated my child and it is not easy and is so expensive to do when do right but yes I’ve seen those parents who use it to slack off and the kids do hardly any work and no socialisation. I had to pay for private tutors and online courses and still begged another local authority to put my child into school. He has additional needs so getting him into a school is not easy. I’ve watched many where children are just left with a piece of paper of work and then that’s it for the day. Home education is an American thing that sadly many brits have picked up on

@Holly03 It definitely seems to have become a trend among these families. Which is a shame as it's making things harder for many parents like yourself who try and do it properly.

It’s a really bad trend, it’s so damaging for the child. Even with additional needs then need to be socialised. I lived rurally and that lack of socialisation made me feel very isolated whilst home educating so I could only imagine what it was doing to ds and the cost of actually giving a good education is not affordable to the average family income. We have become too commercialised to all this American lifestyle shown on the tv and social media, but what we forget is they have no choice but to home school it is not safe for them to send there children into schools. We are lucky that we do have gun control in this country and don’t have to worry about sending our children to school.

But this isn't a complaint about privacy, as much as people may think it should be. The complaint is that Millie feels unfairly remunerated. She is plainly pissed off that her parents are jetting off to Disney with some of the grandchildren - but not hers - who played a bigger part in the TV production.

They are rough. Sue seems like she has additional needs and mental health issues and that husband is creepy.

All that money spent on rubbish. If you are going to do (and I do not agree you should) save the money for their futures.

To me it's work and there are laws in place.

It's narcissistic and thinking that the children or grandchildren are not independent humans. I can see this going very badly wrong soon.

She is starting to see the light and hopefully begins to realise just how fucked up her childhood was being filmed constantly, having her children filmed and having to look after/raise her siblings.

Even if this is not yet about the privacy aspect which must be a hard thing to acknowledge as it was her normal so what she's absolutely justified in being cross her parents have basically used her, her children and her siblings for content and as a paycheck.

Let's be honest it's not the magic pie shop funding the holidays, cars, renovations and shopping sprees is it.

I work with child actors, athletes and other special talents and rightly there are very strictly controlled checks and timings around tutoring, chaperoning etc. These poor children are very vulnerable for abuse by over working, being under educated and being coercively controlled. The entire industry needs regulation and fast.

So, it's a thing that she's yet to think, but should be thinking and the starting point of thinking that thing is talking about something else entirely? Okay.

This isn't the hill I'm going to die on - I'm not a fan or invested in any way - but the op seems like a dishonest misrepresentation of what is being said - and this is being justified by some feelings of what she should be thinking. That's a bit weird.

I also imagine there are rules regarding the money they earn and how it is saved / used?

With family vloggers there are no rules. As another poster put it Children should not be financially responsible for providing the income for their families but for many of these families that's what's happening.

I hate ones where they share the 'bad' side of their children. There's one TikTok account that pops up on my FYP which started with a dad sharing funny snippets of life with his children. Was quite sweet to begin with. But I'm not sure if he got more views when he told stories about something naughty his 3 year old had done or not but lately all his content seems to be about this child in a 'you'll never guess what she's done now' kind of way and he constantly compares her to the older, 'good' child. He's featured her in a few videos too - filming her in the middle of a tantrum. I always think we should protect our children from people, especially strangers, thinking badly of them, but he seems to delight in her screaming and arguing (in a fairly normal 3 year old way) so that he can film her and show the world. I wonder what she'll think when she's older and sees what he shared about her versus what he shared about her brother.

Child labour is illegal and thus children in performing arts highly protected to ensure their welfare and stop it becoming child labor. Yet child vloggers aren't give any amount of this protection.

The government have been really slow to get out regulations regarding vloggers etc.
Children in the performing arts are so protected. The Local authority have the right to day what is appropriate to be filmed/expected of a child to perform. Yet a vlogger can film their kids in their bedrooms, bathroom and make them discuss sensitive topics.

There's a limit to how many hours are filmed and they must have breaks a suitable education. Nothing for vlogger kids.

There is no legal protection of a vlogger child's money.

Also, Sue was pregnant at 14 when Noel was 17. There is nothing to stop her from one day reporting him for what he did. Imagine being one of the tv channels who aired this family if that ever happened. You'd think with the last decade or so of the TV industry of being in trouble for allowing predators to rule the airwaves, they wouldn't have any involvement someone who had done such a thing

Gaming too - my DS told me of a child who plays Fortnite professionally and earns millions. No schooling, just gaming because “he doesn’t need an education, he needs to get ahead in the game”

he told me this in the hope that I’d withdraw him from school so he could pay the mortgage. He really loved Fortnite.

Makes me feel sick that this family are making money from what ultimately is someone age 18 impregnating a 13 year old. It's 🤢

She was actually 13 I believe but 14 when she gave birth. Although this is often glanced over.

Usually defending them as "they stayed together so it's ok. You're only jealous" 🤢🤢😡🤪

I hate when people think that's a defence. She could turn around and go to the police one day and they'd have to investigate it. He could still get convicted. Just because they stayed together doesn't mean it's not a crime.
There have been times when wives have reported their husbands for such crimes.

It’s not just the radfords, although they’re probably the most well known - every person who starts a ‘parenting’ or ‘raising awareness’ Insta account seems to fall down the #gifted hole eventually. I’ve had to unfollow so many accounts which started off refreshing or interesting but eventually just descended into ad after ad. A few freebies and they seem to lose their minds.

And since this site is hiding my responses. Have a look at tattle life and search in the families section. There's plenty of information for those who choose to look. Take coffee and snacks.

I knew the real life Radfords briefly in the early years of their TV series. Back then, I was impressed with them. The kids were really well behaved, seemed really happy, and the parents were down to earth, super organised, and sensible (not rough at all).

Social media seems to have ruined them. I find it really sad.

There are so many children out there being exploited for views/money/sponsorships- it's really scary. And as others have said, they have no financial protection or legal protection.

I actually think it's totally fair for an adult daughter to state she has never seen any of the money gained from using her/her children in TV shows/on social media. If she was a child actress, she'd have access to that money now, after all.

Some of the videos seem to spill over into child abuse/neglect as well- I follow some (adult) equestrian you tubers, and recently saw a video about a child "influencer" who was filmed having fallen off her pony and broken her arm. Her parents didn't seem to seek timely medical help, and then she was filmed whilst distressed, and this was posted to the internet for all to see- that seems really cruel!

I think because it's all become so normalised, I've also seen parents who've gained a following suddenly realise that actually their children's photos are all over the internet, and they have no control over this.

I do think it needs much tighter regulation. In schools, we try to teach children about internet safety, but it's very hard to do this when they see children (often younger than them) splashed all over social media.

I think a lot of people see it as a way to have an income whilst being a SAHP, but the children need to be much more tightly protected- and if they are the key focus of the content, then they need to be protected financially too.