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58 replies

SerendipityJane · 02/04/2023 16:17

says Jacob Rees Mogg as he launches his "Battle for Births" by pressing for further increases (if not outright abolition) of the retirement age.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/pensions-retirement/news/rees-mogg-warns-low-births-will-force-pension-age-higher/

Britain is not having enough children, says father-of-six Jacob Rees-Mogg

Retirement age 'must rise' without more working people, MP warns

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/pensions-retirement/news/rees-mogg-warns-low-births-will-force-pension-age-higher

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EffortlessDesmond · 02/04/2023 19:42

I'm well past breeding age. And I wouldn't cross the street if JRM suggested I should.

Zuffe · 02/04/2023 19:44

KittyAlfred · 02/04/2023 17:04

Agree. We need fewer people on the planet, not more. It baffles me when people don’t understand this.

From a humankind point of view it registers in most brains. From a sense of law, order and to avoid societal collapse, capitalism requires growth. The world's population will continue to grow in absolute terms, but the rate of growth is slowing. The growth rate peaked in 1968, but is now slowing. Buy 2,100 the population is expected to level out at about 11 billion then stay level or even decline.

Some countries will experience a decline (and already are). The most growth will come from Africa. Already many countries with a need to sustain growth see Africa as a contributor to human capital.

Countries that cannot harness AI or robots to supplement humans will see a net decline.

One other point to make, if you can outbreed JRM then you can potentially outrun his DNA. That's seriously worth thinking about.

frozendaisy · 02/04/2023 19:45

Perhaps he could deal with "men become better providers and dads" first.

Kranke · 02/04/2023 19:48

Or we could increase immigration if he’s worried there aren’t enough people? If he relaxed it to people of child bearing age, then it would be likely they’d have children over here and the children would have British passports.

OhLordPleaseDontBurnUsDontGrillOrToastYourFlock · 02/04/2023 19:48

I recall a JRM thread once where another poster said "When he masturbates, dust comes out".

Viviennemary · 02/04/2023 19:52

The world's population is growing at an alarming speed. He is really irresponsible to say this.

turnthebiglightoff · 02/04/2023 19:53

This guy is just a caricature of a Dickensian villain.

He's also a cunt.

SilverGlitterBaubles · 02/04/2023 19:54

If JRM wasn't so keen on pushing Brexit meaning lots of younger EU workers could no longer come and work here to boost productivity then perhaps this wouldn't be such and issue. Brexit has reduced our GDP by 4% pa that's why we are in such serious trouble.

Alwaystired9 · 02/04/2023 19:54

Fuck no, I have 3 and I’m a walking zombie!

MintJulia · 02/04/2023 19:55

Stupid man. The world doesn't need more babies, we need fewer babies.

Ringmaster27 · 02/04/2023 19:57
Elisabeth Moss Handmaidstale GIF by HULU

What in the Handmaids Tale is he on? 😳

JaneyGee · 02/04/2023 20:11

Viviennemary · 02/04/2023 19:52

The world's population is growing at an alarming speed. He is really irresponsible to say this.

Also, life expectancy is increasing. And it will continue to increase – spectacularly so. Some predict lifespans of 130 by the middle of this century! No joke. Serious money is being invested in life-extending drugs, and in ways to slow and possibly halt ageing altogether. Within the next ten years, there will be senolytic drugs, and that's just the beginning. In other words, not only has the world's population trebled since World War Two, not only is Africa's population going to double by 2050, but soon people won't be dying and making room. And as if all that wasn't enough, we've got climate change looming. People like Rees Mogg are just insane. Overpopulation is the single biggest problem we face. If we're honest, it's at the root of everything from deforestation and pollution to environmental destruction and declining fish stocks.

If I was Bill Gates, I'd build a family planning clinic in every village in the world. It would do more to reduce poverty and misery than any other single act.

Justalittlebitduckling · 02/04/2023 20:30

Says the man who’s proud he’s never changed a nappy.

Zuffe · 02/04/2023 20:30

@JaneyGee Unfortunately religion would get in the way of your latest idea.

Mimosa08 · 02/04/2023 20:36

He looks like a haunted pencil

lv884 · 02/04/2023 20:48

Let’s not breed more, please folks. I can’t get a nursery place before the free places come in from 9 months. May need to resort to bribery when they do.

Get off Mumsnet and get breeding*

*Only people who can afford to pay the salary of a full time nanny to both stay in their workforce need apply.

Manopadmanaban · 02/04/2023 20:49

Idiota!!

OriGanOver · 02/04/2023 20:52

What did the Conservative's think would happen with a two dc limit on top up benefits. Wages aren't high enough to meet the cost of living, the jobs that pay low enough to get top up benefits still need to be filled for the country to run.

Maybe he should have campaigned within his party to not put a two child limit on UC. Idiots.

duoplik · 02/04/2023 20:52

The world is insanely and dangerously overpopulated.

In the west it's largely because of people living longer though which is an issue when looking at tax, health & social care etc.

duoplik · 02/04/2023 20:56

It's just a shift, western countries "dying" out, China seeing a huge reduction but growth in Africa.

Axahooxa · 02/04/2023 20:56

Tell him no, I’m too tired. For both the process and consequences of his suggested plan.

Axahooxa · 02/04/2023 20:57

@Mimosa08 😂

jobadoo · 02/04/2023 21:00

Imagine he would advise Macron that tell your people to have more kids then you don't have to raise the retirement age!!!

avocadotofu · 02/04/2023 21:03

Well he's certainly out of touch! Is the lack of EU immigration having a detrimental impact of the economy? He has some nerve! Who on earth would listen to such an awful man anyway?!

ActDottie · 02/04/2023 21:13

Ah yeah I’ll just have a couple more… not like I need to be able to afford them or anything… he’s so ignorant to the real world struggles that ordinary people face