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Out of complete nosinesses, how much do teachers get paid?

586 replies

tikkakormaandsomerice · 29/03/2023 16:49

So primary teachers
Secondary school teachers

What would they roughly get paid?

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Harveyhero · 30/03/2023 21:59

How much are you paid

EigerMum · 30/03/2023 22:00

JulianCasa · 30/03/2023 21:59

Why are you multiplying by 225? I’ll say it one more time for the people at the back.

We. Only. Get. Paid. For. 195. Days.

Why are you trying to pretend teachers are being paid more than they are? We aren’t paid 55k so your argument is really irrelevant!

OFFS!! READ IT AGAIN.

Itstarts · 30/03/2023 22:04

EigerMum · 30/03/2023 22:00

OFFS!! READ IT AGAIN.

There's no point. As has been said repeatedly. IT IS IRRELEVANT!

39k is not equivalent to 55k because it is a salaried role for the year, not paid by the day.

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NessieNighthawk · 30/03/2023 22:05

JulianCasa · 30/03/2023 21:59

Why are you multiplying by 225? I’ll say it one more time for the people at the back.

We. Only. Get. Paid. For. 195. Days.

Why are you trying to pretend teachers are being paid more than they are? We aren’t paid 55k so your argument is really irrelevant!

She’s right, I get it.

noblegiraffe · 30/03/2023 22:07

Here's why the £55k argument doesn't work: because teachers are working harder when they are at work than other graduates.

Out of complete nosinesses, how much do teachers get paid?
JulianCasa · 30/03/2023 22:08

Itstarts · 30/03/2023 22:04

There's no point. As has been said repeatedly. IT IS IRRELEVANT!

39k is not equivalent to 55k because it is a salaried role for the year, not paid by the day.

Exactly 😂😴

Harveyhero · 30/03/2023 22:09

Ladies Just find a better job or marry rich😂

IJustHadToLookHavingReadTheBook · 30/03/2023 22:10

Noseydoll · 30/03/2023 21:09

Actually no majority of teachers do not have masters!!!

I didn't say "most", I said "lots of". But if I'm being pedantic a PGCE is credits towards a Masters, so all teachers have at least part of a Masters.

Still think you're trolling here, the stuff you're saying is really provocative and aggressive.

Harveyhero · 30/03/2023 22:10

I mean men too (men can marry rich too of course)

NessieNighthawk · 30/03/2023 22:12

noblegiraffe · 30/03/2023 22:07

Here's why the £55k argument doesn't work: because teachers are working harder when they are at work than other graduates.

Kind of busts the theory that all teachers work 60-80 hours a week and no one else does any overtime though doesn’t it.

EigerMum · 30/03/2023 22:13

JulianCasa · 30/03/2023 22:08

Exactly 😂😴

So wait, you mean you DO get paid for your holidays after all?

Botw1 · 30/03/2023 22:13

noblegiraffe · 30/03/2023 22:07

Here's why the £55k argument doesn't work: because teachers are working harder when they are at work than other graduates.

By 5 hours? According to teachers

Plus you mean, longer. Not harder.

And then there's the holidays

Oh. And there's that mythical no teacher ever says they work harder than anyone else!!

cantkeepawayforever · 30/03/2023 22:13

The thing is, the annual salary of a teacher is, say, 39k. They can’t choose to work more days in that job for more pay - the full time job of ‘class / subject teacher’ pays that money annually.

’It’s 55k ‘really’ ‘??

As I said above, an oil rig worker working a 2 week on 2 week off schedule doesn’t ‘really’ have a salary of twice their pay packet. Someone working 3x12 hour shifts as a 36 hour week doesn’t ‘really’ have a pay packet 5/3 of that. They are just different work patterns for a specific annual salary. Teachers have a work pattern that us exceptionally busy in term times and less so out of term time. It’s a compressed hours work pattern, not a ‘part time’ role in which there is the potential to earn more by doing more hours.

Meandfour · 30/03/2023 22:13

IJustHadToLookHavingReadTheBook · 30/03/2023 22:10

I didn't say "most", I said "lots of". But if I'm being pedantic a PGCE is credits towards a Masters, so all teachers have at least part of a Masters.

Still think you're trolling here, the stuff you're saying is really provocative and aggressive.

Not all teachers do a PGCE though. Lots of primary aged teachers do a degree with QTS.

Itstarts · 30/03/2023 22:14

Jesus fucking christ...

JulianCasa · 30/03/2023 22:15

EigerMum · 30/03/2023 22:13

So wait, you mean you DO get paid for your holidays after all?

No hun. It’s 195 days pro rata over the year. Do you want to see my terms and conditions? Christ.

Harveyhero · 30/03/2023 22:15

All true tho

Harveyhero · 30/03/2023 22:15

Moan moan moan

Harveyhero · 30/03/2023 22:18

It’s like the mums who do (volunteer) the pta events and then look like they crawled through a bush backwards and complain about how much they hate it and how tough it was. Why do it!? Do something else then!!!

EigerMum · 30/03/2023 22:20

JulianCasa · 30/03/2023 22:15

No hun. It’s 195 days pro rata over the year. Do you want to see my terms and conditions? Christ.

I’m which case hun it’s entirely reasonable to compare it with private sector which, on the same basis would be around 225 days pro rata over the year.

Harveyhero · 30/03/2023 22:21

@EigerMum 🙌🏾

Harveyhero · 30/03/2023 22:22

So if there is no pay rise what will all the teachers do!? Quit??? I’m curious. As you said you have bills to pay etc so what will you do…..

HandScreen · 30/03/2023 22:23

Itstarts · 29/03/2023 20:01

Where else would a deputy head of a department be paid as low as 45k?

Loads of sectors! Have you ever worked outside of teaching?!

noblegiraffe · 30/03/2023 22:24

NessieNighthawk · 30/03/2023 22:12

Kind of busts the theory that all teachers work 60-80 hours a week and no one else does any overtime though doesn’t it.

That graph underestimates teachers hourly working week compared to the DfE's own data which puts it closer to 50 hours a week.

However, it does illustrate that teachers work longer hours during their working week than other graduates so averaging that time out into the holidays needs to be taken into account if you are trying to compare salaries.

HandScreen · 30/03/2023 22:24

LividNC · 29/03/2023 20:07

Shove your “holidays” where the sun don’t shine.

I have 50 essays of approx 4000 words each to mark in the previous moments of my “holidays” when I get to pay for my toddler to be in nursery so I can mark to meet the external deadlines.

One hour each, optimistically? So fifty hours of marking? And that’s not counting all the other work jobs that have to be done over Easter.

I’m so exhausted I could cry. But sure, the holidays. Get fucked.

I'm a lecturer. It doesn't take an hour to mark a 4000 word essay, you need some training if it's taking you that long.