Out of complete nosinesses, how much do teachers get paid?

[tikkakormaandsomerice]

So primary teachers
Secondary school teachers

What would they roughly get paid?

How do you know?

Then if the teachers have to pay bills and eat find a better paid job!! Or move abroad where they reward teachers better (as a previous poster who is a teacher and did just that said)

This! I lead 3 subjects with plus responsibility for whole school assemblies and UPS staff have to lead on trips and have responsibility for the trip...

I'm primary on UPS2

Also don’t your other halves contribute (presuming you’re not all single mothers). Nothing against single mothers here, total respect, my DM (rest her soul) was a single mother.

So you are saying that a child between 4 and 11 just needs an unqualified person in front of them? Are you sure about that? That childcare alone - or misguided poor teaching of the basics - is sufficient basis for secondary schooling??

Hahahahahaha.

(Oxbridge PhD primary teacher here - I agree that I am mildly academically overqualified, but good primary teaching is a genuinely demanding and specialist job)

I’m a cleaner at a school!!!!!

I did this - in a small school - on M2. Primary is very different….

But it’s not £55k though. It’s £39k. The holidays are unpaid, if we took a days unpaid leave for a funeral or similar (which we have to do btw as these things are always docked) then we’d lose 1/195th of our pay. Because the holidays are unpaid!
Not sure where this £55k arbitrary figure has come from because no class teacher in the UK is earning that amount.

What do you mean'my school'?

I don't want to move abroad. I want to stay where my family and friends are and my children are happy. I believe in making a difference in the community I work in. I was education for my children and my friends' children to be as good as it can be.

@Piggywaspushed the school where I clean

Some primaries were fully open, as only one of the unions was striking and it may be that all staff belonged to the other.

Others were ‘open’ but with random cover for striking teachers.

Secondaries are a totally different matter. I know of no strike-unaffected secondaries.

@cantkeepawayforever
same primary where my dcs go was ok. Guess they not bothered my pay or have rich hubbies:wifeys!

Typos! same with the primary where my dcs go, it was ok. Guess they not bothered by pay or have rich hubbies/wifeys!

so do teacher training and become a teacher then, if its such an easy life

Extrapolate the number of days teachers work to the number of days private sector works and then add the difference in pension contributions. It’s really not rocket science. Oh, and btw private sector workers work overtime, weekends and holidays too. Just, you know, FYI.

So yes. The total benefits of a £39k salary are worth around £55k.

Or in the NASUWT. Or had a head who was choosing to keep an unsafely staffed school open.

Why aren't they all queuing up to be teachers?

£39,000 / 195 = £200 (day rate)
£200 * 225 = £45,000 (avg days private sector worker works)
£45,000 1.268 = £54,306* (TPS employer contribution rate of 23.68% less median average private sector employer pension contributions rate of 3%)

That doesn’t account for the extra pension you’d get as a teacher with DB scheme if you live beyond average life expectancy, v private sector worker with DC.

This is just rubbish.

Can’t wait to get paid tomorrow if I’m suddenly earning £55k.

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Why are you multiplying by 225? I’ll say it one more time for the people at the back.

We. Only. Get. Paid. For. 195. Days.

Why are you trying to pretend teachers are being paid more than they are? We aren’t paid 55k so your argument is really irrelevant!

Because, as is evident on this thread…:

1. Most people actually have absolutely no clue of how valuable their total package is; and

2. Because conditions are poor for many teachers. That’s not the point in question, for many there simply isn’t an amount that makes it worthwhile and that is not something I or most other people are questioning. However, I do question how many of these people would find it easy to transfer out into a “easier” job with an equivalent package elsewhere. Many roles on that salary really will be quite demanding (oh and you’d also have to pay childcare costs through the holidays).

So why are so many people sacrificing this perk of teaching by leaving the profession after only a few years? Why aren't enough people joining the profession?