Am I out of touch or is this bordering paedophilia?

[BeLuckyy]

This person popped up in my Facebook suggestions.
After having a look it seems they are a 'steamy romance' author.
However, the subject matter of this post (and some of the 'enthusiastic' comments) made me feel like it's just wrong.
Admittedly I've not read things like this, also, I was taken advantage of as a young teen by a teacher so maybe I'm projecting but isn't it bordering/stepping into the lines of child abuse?
(iPhone screenshot attached)

I have never encountered the latex babies... And I have no interest in looking.. yikes.

Kinks and fetishes all seem to be at the fore now. Why is the world so obsessed with sex? Are people such dullards that they can now longer find pleasures beyond getting moist with people? It's frankly bizarre.

Oh well. In that case you can't really blame the author.

It's interesting, because the huge rise in online porn (and increasingly grotesque kinks being actively pushed onto site users) is coinciding with what appears to be a decrease in people in the West having actual, ya know, sex. It's great that there are now far fewer teens having sex than in the 90s, but arguably, not so great that the age at which UK boys lose their virginity is rising (from 17 to early 20s since 2000, to my recollection) AT THE SAME TIME as their use of pornhub and the like are rising exponentially.

Once can only wonder what ideas our teen sons are getting about future real life relationships with women or men. What expectations they may have as a result of what they've seen or read on their phones.

it's an issue on which parents have only scratched the surface but I believe we need to open our eyes, fast.

It's now become clear that the OP actually went through to the author's actual page. Now yeah there is an argument here that Facebook, like reddit, should have an age filter on certain pages but just to recap:

The OP went tp the author's own personal space and saw things she didn't want to see.

The OP then copied these things to mumsnet which arguably is far less of a personal space and copied those things so other people could also see them - without warnings.

Other people then described in detail progressively more hard-core links for more people to be horrified by.

If we're ruling "talking about kinks without warnings" to be a consent issue I'm not sure it's the author who is most guilty of it.

So would you also ban "Lolita" by V. Nabokov, OP? Just because these issues are the topic of a novel, it doesn't mean that they or their readership condone the behaviour.

I'm a forty year old widow. Its very possible I'll never have a partner again. Most of the women I know in literotica are either single and happily so or gay. The straight relationships that do exist tend to be pretty healthy ones because the first thing a domineering man is going to do is control his partners access to anything sexual that doesn't involve him.

What you are literally doing here is arguing that adult women shouldn't be allowed near erotica written by other adult women in case it upsets the men they one day sleep with and you are somehow trying to make that a feminist argument.

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Please don't make up stuff. I never* said 'I saw things I didn't want to see'*

I had a genuine query as to what is seen as acceptable.
Not that you really need to know 😬 but In general I have had and continue to have an excellent sex life, that some may consider not vanilla etc.
However, it's never crossed into involving underage children/young adults, this subject matter seems to me, as per my discussion, rather distasteful, and this thread has been full of useful info.

No, this is not what happened, at all.

OP posted something that FB had served her in her 'suggestions' and asked if it's gross and grim. Some of us said that we think it is. You then posted "Hahahaha (sic) - it's just like Virginia Andrews and Mills & Boon".

I opined that it isn't at all like VA or M&B and that online porn, both written and AV, is more malicious, degrading and dark by an order of magnitude than either of these things, and furthermore that is it being actively pushed onto our teen children as well as adults. The image OP posted includes a number of categories such as br33ding and v!rgin which are used to indicate that very hardcore and degrading material is within. Some people didn't know what these code words meant and I explained. I think it's useful for women to know this; to be forewarned is to be fore-armed.

You didn't like this, so instead of engaging in a 'chat', which is the board in which this thread is posted, you have taken it upon yourself to tell us exactly what we mean and what we are intending to do by engaging in this important discussion; you've even intimated that we're doing it as a form of titillation (not very feminist of you but a common form of gaslighting amongst MRAs who want to stop women talking about our opporession).

You've also for no apparent reason gone on a powerlevelling spree disclosing details about yourself which are not relevant to the conversation but seem to be designed to stop us from wanting to engage in discussion.

I for one think it's important to discuss the threat of online porn and there've been some very interesting and thought provoking points made by other posters so far. I hope there will be more.

“OP posted something that FB had served her in her 'suggestions' “

No, Facebook suggested the author as someone she might know because they have a mutual friend, the OP then went on to the author’s profile page and has taken that screenshot from there.

Here's a thought. If you don't want to read people discussing why they read erotica maybe don't participate in discussions about erotica where people ask, I assume on earnest because I wasn't reading it as sarcastic "but how do people get an organism out of this". Because that's a question that deserves an answer - and my answer, for the record, was pretty damn conservative. I have been an awful lot less detailed when mentioning things that float my boat than other people have been when detailing Terrible Kinks They Accidentally Discovered On The Internet (and then accidentally kept reading because they tripped and it leapt into their eyeballs).

I get that you disapprove heavily. I get that you absolutely don't see a distinction between written erotica and visual porn. I also get that mumsnet is one of the most conservative websites out there and whilst previously generations blamed that on god here they go through wild leaps to explain that this is feminist because all sex ever is to do with men and men are bad. You can absolutely see that in this discussion with the certainty that maybe men are writing it SECRETLY IN DISGUISE.

Which is exactly why I spoke up. Because hi, not a man. Definitely have girl bits. Definitely reading stuff written by people with girl bits. And definitely here to argue that women are allowed to have private sexual feelings

I also get that mumsnet is one of the most conservative websites out there and whilst previously generations blamed that on god here they go through wild leaps to explain that this is feminist because all sex ever is to do with men and men are bad.

I get it, you're #notlikeothergirls.

mumsnet is one of the most conservative websites out there

😂

Which still doesn't make the author in anyway a villain. I could go to a suggested friends of my friends and see any amount of things I don't want to see. If there were particularly graphic passages or pictures maybe but "this exists" is not that as demonstrated by reposting them on a pu lic website The author is not obliged to lock down her stuff in case random people should be offended by it.

I absolutely am like other girls. Majority of my friends are female. Majority of them have also tried erotica at some point. Bad news for you, most other girls aren't like mumsnet

OK but I have to just pull this bit out to let it breathe a little...

"I absolutely am like other girls. Majority of my friends are female."

...chefs kiss

That doesn’t make it ok. My boundaries are firm around schoolgirls not being sexualised, by anyone.

Those are both adults. Neither are children.