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Up yours, Gillian Keegan - teacher pay offer.

157 replies

noblegiraffe · 27/03/2023 18:44

£1000 this year one-off payment (unclear if taxed?)

4.3% pay rise for experienced teachers from September, (well below inflation), 7.1% for newbies, presumably to meet their £30k manifesto promise.

Fuck all on Ofsted
They'll set up a "Workload TaskForce" (so fuck-all on workload).

The £1k will be funded, they reckon schools can afford the 4.3% next year (hah) so will only fund 0.5% of it.

NEU have strongly recommended that members reject.

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Purplepeoniesdroppingpetals · 27/03/2023 19:02

noblegiraffe · 27/03/2023 18:59

All unions get a vote on it. All union members can vote 'fuck-off Gillian'.

Good - champing at the bit to vote again for the nasuwt to go on strike!

cantkeepawayforever · 27/03/2023 19:03

NASUWT have sent an e-mail with a link to a ‘consultative survey’, but do not recommend the pay offer to their members.

cantkeepawayforever · 27/03/2023 19:05

One of the questions on he survey includes ‘what would you be willing to do about this’ and has striking as one option. Obviously not the same as a strike ballot, but an indication that they may re-ballot if the survey responses suggest this would be a popular option.

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Whyisitdarkalready · 27/03/2023 19:06

Disgusting, showing a complete lack of respect for the teachers who work hard and do their best despite the challenges.

We are in the West Mids, the bus service went on strike last week, refused to run 95% of bus routes until an offer was made. After 5 days of virtually no buses, an offer of about 16% pay rise was accepted. Maybe teachers will need to do a 'ongoing strike' until a resolution is found. Just like the junior doctors and nurses have had to strike, despite being told patients will die, children will have to suffer but the long term gains are important. Ofsted needs reform, work and conditions need improvement and any pay rise needs to be fully funded, not out of current overstretched budgets. What a sad day.

ramonaquimby · 27/03/2023 19:07

I’m worth an extra 10k in Scotland. Good grief

RuleWithAWoodenFoot · 27/03/2023 19:08

Need to call a strike for key exam dates (in all key stages). That would shit them up.

BlackeyedSusan · 27/03/2023 19:08

Wow. That's some difference between Scotland and England.

Back to bribing ds to go to school on strike days. Grin

I can't see how on earth they think it can come out of current school budgets. Just just, just.... speechless

lifeissweet · 27/03/2023 19:10

I was shocked when I saw the Scottish and Welsh pay scales too.

What I found insulting was the £1000 (before tax) bribe. They really thought that throwing a bit of short term cash our way would make us all ignore the UNFUNDED insult of an offer?

'The £1000 offer will be rescinded if you don't accept this'

I may be struggling a bit to make ends meet, but she can stick her £1000 up her arse if she believes we don't think of the children and their funding first.

TheZeppo · 27/03/2023 19:11

That’s utterly fucking disgraceful!

Bet they’ll keep the unfunded element quiet, so teachers look soooo unreasonable 🤬

JanglyBeads · 27/03/2023 19:11

Think NEU has already said exam years would be protected - think that's what I heard on R4 just now?

AvySt · 27/03/2023 19:11

One of my DC’s starts teaching in Scotland in August. I assumed they had misheard the starting wage....seems not.

Such a difference in pay at all levels.

OhhhhhhhhBiscuits · 27/03/2023 19:13

I am not a teacher, but a parent. I support you rejecting this offer 100%. It is a fucking insult and disgrace. A measly offer and not to fund it as a bloody joke! Schools are on the bones of their arse financially, they need fully funded rises and above the amount offered as well.

And before a twat comes on, yes I would pay more tax for this.

noblegiraffe · 27/03/2023 19:14

From the NEU

"If you vote to reject this offer, the executive has agreed to notify two further days of strike action on Thursday, 27 April and Tuesday, 2 May. The executive has agreed to seek local agreements with head teachers to ensure exam preparation is not interrupted for Years 11 and 13."

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HarrietDVane · 27/03/2023 19:15

It's just insulting, and yet further evidence of the appallingly low regard this government has for the profession, and for the students whose education funding is already stretched beyond belief.

It's a hard NO from me.

PetitPorpoise · 27/03/2023 19:21

TheZeppo · 27/03/2023 19:11

That’s utterly fucking disgraceful!

Bet they’ll keep the unfunded element quiet, so teachers look soooo unreasonable 🤬

I can't see any mention of it being unfunded on the BBC article Teachers' strikes: NEU urges teachers to reject new pay deal www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-65037422

Changechangechanging · 27/03/2023 19:23

Good lord. 0.5% funded. What actual planet are they on?

GuyFawkesDay · 27/03/2023 19:23

It's like they just expected us to say "oooh thank you, sir" to the mighty overlords and scuttle away with our miserly handout and unfunded pay offer. I mean after tax, pension and a few strike days that £1k doesn't go very far, does it?

CallmeAngelina · 27/03/2023 19:24

The NEU meeting told us. IIRC the gov't will stump up 0.5% of it.

Matildapower · 27/03/2023 19:25

PetitPorpoise · 27/03/2023 19:21

I can't see any mention of it being unfunded on the BBC article Teachers' strikes: NEU urges teachers to reject new pay deal www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-65037422

Of course you can’t, they won’t mention that bit, doesn’t fit the greedy, lazy teachers narrative

surreygirl1987 · 27/03/2023 19:37

That's pathetic and insulting.

RoyGBivisacolorfulman · 27/03/2023 19:48

Absolutely terrible. £600 after tax and deductions and more money from schools budgets next year. Do they hate state children? Levelling up my ass.

As for the difference in pay for the deviolved nations. Lost for words.

donttellmehesalive · 27/03/2023 20:02

Insulting and demoralising to see how we are valued in comparison to other public sector workers, including teaching colleagues in wales and Scotland.

Their only interest is making M1 look good enough to recruit the newbies they need.

How can they see how our pay has been eroded since 2010, and how the gap is widening with teachers in the devolved nations, and the offers made to other public sector employees, and think it's anything other than a kick in the teeth?

I wish NASUWT had voted to strike. It weakened our whole argument.

TheyThemJugs · 27/03/2023 20:03

Wales and Scotland are some of the cheapest places to live - so why do their teachers get paid so much more than those in England?
I guess it’s the same for nurses, carers, etc.
Seems unfair.

Winter41 · 27/03/2023 20:04

1k is an insult. Those of us who went on strike and lost 4 days pay will barely be better off.

donttellmehesalive · 27/03/2023 20:07

Just stringing it out until inflation starts to fall. NEU said GK said that inflation would be below 2% by the end of 2023.