Tell me if you personally would gain or lose weight on this

[Timmy2023]

39yo, 5ft 4, 144lbs. Walk about 11,000 steps a day (4 miles).

An example of a usual day:

Breakfast: porridge measured out - 280cals

Snack: 2 ryvita with Philadelphia light. Approx 100 cal.

Lunch: Baxter's chicken broth 164cal. 1 slice of rye 120cal

Dinner: grilled chicken breast, lettuce, tomato, cucumber, red cabbage, red onion, half a pitta bread. Approx 430cal.

Approx 1000 calories.

Would you lose or gain?

I would never be on this diet as I’d be bloody miserable. Plus the whole bottle of wine on a Sunday but none through the week sounds bingey. Why do you ask?

Lose, but that’s a terrible diet. Instead I’d do intermittent fasting and eat three meals with no snacking:

B - porridge
L - scrambled eggs topped with cottage cheese, bacon, tomatoes, cucumber, carrot and radishes, olives. Fruit if still hungry
D - any meat/fish with lots of vegetables, potatoes allowed. Fruit or dark chocolate allowed if wanted

I wouldn't lose anything because I wouldn't even last a day eating like that, I'd be too bloody miserable!

If that's genuinely the calories you're consuming (ie actually weighing food out and not sneaking any other food in without recording it) then worth getting your thyroid etc checked. Your base calories for just existing are above 1k a day, therefore you should be losing.

How long have you been eating like this? Perhaps you actually need to eat more, counterintuitively. Perhaps your body thinks you’re starving it.

Hmm. My guess is that your calorie calculations are wrong. You can't calculate accurately unless you're eating 'bought' food which has the exact calorie count on it. Aubergine and cauliflower curry sounds good - but are your portions huge? 60g is a lot of rice. Do you use cream/oil/coconut cream when you make it? If I were doing boiled eggs when I was actively wanting to lose weight, I'd have had one egg with nothing else. But, as I say, this isn't necessarily desirable.

There was a thread like this last year.

Op was saying they couldn't lose weight with a very restricted diet. After lots of posts, they casually mentioned about 4000 cals of vodka was necked every weekend...

I'm a hard loser, takes extreme vigilance & consistency to lose weight but did the Zoe tests, don't process fat or sugar well. So now eating for health & it's great, so yes, I would lose on this intake eventually but I don't want to knacker my constitution up.

I would lose on that, especially with all that walking. Carbs are my nemesis, and that eating pattern isnt carb heavy. When I want to lose weight I go very low carb for 2/3 weeks and I can drop weight even without doing any major exercising. However low carb = low energy especially at first so I'd not manage all that walking

I'm wondering if I actually should just fork out to a dietician to write me up a proper plan that would work, I've been doing similar to this for 4 months, and I've fluctuated 2lbs each way, but I basically stay the same.

The bottle of wine on s Sunday isn't intended to be a binge, it's just usually our only chilled day, we'd generally be playing board games/watching films/and that's the day I end up having a drink.

I'm soooo hesitant to completely cut carbs because bread is my favourite thing in the world. But it looks like I might have to go low carb to see any difference 😭

You do have quite a few carbs in that original day - porridge, Ryvita, rye bread, pitta. I’d change that up first.

Also 11k steps is 11k better than nothing, but you can do that kind of number just going about your business. I aim for 20k as that is going about my business plus proper fast walking. I would do more, but don't have time!

You could sustain a calorie level of that much, I have over quite a few months but my diet involved very few carbs, certainly no starchy carbs just carbs from veg and fruit/dairy etc

Porridge for example absolutely kills me, makes me ravenous. I would need much higher fat levels too, so wouldnt have had the low fat cream cheese for example

Actually ignore my last post. Just reread and I would probably stay the same weight as it isn’t as much as I first thought!

Adding those numbers is more like 1100 and I think you’re underestimating some, e.g. ryvita are 70 for two and Philly more like 40-50. Are you tracking everything for dinner as well, including oil etc used to cook chicken?

my maintenance at that weight is probably just under 1300 so I would lose but slowly.

If you can be that strict with yourself then I genuinely would try low carb. Read the board on here.

It takes planning, which it seems like you can do, but it's tasty and I feel really good on it. Only reason I'm not doing it at the moment is my own lack of organisation.

That whole bottle of wine is a killer - have you checked out the cals in a bottle? Swap out for no more than two single gin and diet tonics and you’ll start losing would be my bet

I’m not saying it’s intended to be a binge, but nevertheless one whole bottle on one day a week is pretty much fitting the definition.

I find with things I really love I’d rather give them up wholesale than eat the inferior versions in sad quantities (which to me would be rye bread and Ryvita and half a pitta). I’d rather swap for meals that had different interesting carbs e.g. sweet potatoes in the salad, or chickpeas or whatever.

I promise I'm not drinking 0000s booze. Literally 1 bottle of wine a week which is about 600-700 cals I believe.

With a veg curry I'd use veg stock and one of those small sachets of creamed coconut that you dilute, and tomato paste, plus lots of spices. Not loads of cream or yoghurt.

Gousto portions for basmati were always 130g for 2 ppl so I thought 60g rice was reasonable.

Probably lose but your health would suffer as that’s loads of empty carbs (sugar) with not much nutrition there. You will also be starving hungry which is a total no no for long term weight loss and keeping it off.
You could get so so much more bang for your buck for that amount of calories.

Hmmm. Maybe I should be looking for a meal plan elsewhere then. Is there anywhere online that's good for that sort of thing?

But where is the goodness in that? Rice is totally empty calories- pure sugar. Brown rice is pure sugar with added husks which arnt good for you either!

could be lots of things:

• how long you been on diet? ( weight fluctuates by a few pounds over a month. Don’t weigh too often)
• do you weigh at same time of day?
• how controlled are your portions? ( you could easily sneak in an extra few hundred calories with milk in hot drinks and Philadelphia)

It takes a 3500 calories reduction to lose a pound.

if you don’t do any other exercise apart from steps, then you may only use 1400 calories a day.

that would mean your deficit was 400 cals, so going to be a while before you lose a pound.

id suggest cutting a bit more- maybe do the Fast 800 as it’ll get your metabolism burning fat.

build muscle - resistance training is good. This will mean your body burns more calories.

Portion control is key. But faster results with exercise combined.

Maybe you’re not supposed to be any lighter 🤷🏻‍♀️ You’re not overweight at all - I’d assume that this is where your body wants to be.

Loose weight. I would feel miserable and would end up binging very easily.

The alcohol will make you retain water for a start

Your body will also be retaining water from your walking too, although not if you do it regularly over the years

Depends if you've only just started or whether you've been doing this for months