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Why do people enjoy giving little children junk food?

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Tietheapron · 18/03/2023 08:43

I am very much in favour of balance in all areas. DS is two. At the moment, we haven’t got a massively fussy stage - there’s a handful of things he doesn’t seem too keen on and I imagine this will probably expand as he gets a bit older before then (hopefully!) getting a bit more variety. So to give an example, on Thursday he had porridge for breakfast and then a rich tea biscuit at a music group we go to in the morning. Then had to go into the bank so he had to go in the pushchair - had a banana to keep him quiet! As a result all he wanted for lunch was maybe half a ham sandwich and a few baby crisps. Then homemade pizza with veg on for tea. I’m explaining this so it’s clear I don’t completely raise him on fruit grown from the garden and eggs from our own chickens.

But then this morning he ate a bowl of shreddies and then DH gave him a biscuit, actually going in the kitchen to get him one (so not like DS found them and hoovered one up.) Visit PIL and they try to ply him with mars bars and ice creams, big ones for adults. (We don’t see PIL often, not for this reason as they are actually lovely people but they aren’t local.) Brother came to see DS and took him for a walk in the park, ignored the water bottle and bought him a fruit shoot and fruit pastilles.

I don’t want to sound like a neurotic mum here and I’m sure plenty of people will say to get a grip, I’m lucky people are nice to DS but I suppose this is my question really - why does kindness and love have to be shown through food? Isn’t it enough to go to the park with him, to read to him, play in the garden (they do this too!)

I hate sounding like a killjoy but I really don’t want him associating everyone but me with junk food!

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PurpleFlower1983 · 18/03/2023 10:30

My family are like this. My kids have treats but my Mum and great Auntie insist on multiple things as if that’s how they have to show love. I have stopped complaining as it leads to arguments. I just make sure we don’t treat at home when they are seeing them. I’m overly aware as I was overweight from age 5 and I don’t want that for my daughter who is already ‘big’ for her age. She has slimmed down quite a bit recently but I don’t want her to have the issues with weight I have had all my life - also as a result if my great Auntie and others over treating!

JackHackettsMac · 18/03/2023 10:30

YANBU. I’d definitely say something and suggest alternatives. I think Mars Bars are horribly sickly and I wouldn’t thank you for one myself, let alone giving one to a toddler.

My DH is always trying to give DS sweet ‘treats’, especially after meals, which I find really annoying. I think DH grew up with chocolate bars as a ‘pudding’. I’ve suggested offering fruit instead of chocolate for a sweet treat and offering chocolate as an occasional treat, but DH isn’t a fan of fruit himself. Thankfully, DS seems to be good at self regulating as a teen and things like a couple of selection boxes at Christmas will last him until Easter.

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Fifi0000 · 18/03/2023 10:34

Tietheapron · 18/03/2023 10:06

OK, how is that funny, then? I don’t think I’m lacking a sense of humour but I don’t think this is intended to be funny; the poster genuinely feels that one biscuit is not a treat, because it is a humble Rich Tea!

At least least give the child a hobnob the biscuit of god's. To answer your question it's all moderation after the age of 2. If you are uber strict with food/treats they will use their pocket money and gorge on treats. When they are older they will get independent access to junk food. If you ban everything it becomes more forbidden and exciting which leads to binging. I think the key yes is moderation.

burnoutbabe · 18/03/2023 10:34

If I have my nephew here I'd ask my sister what he would normally have to drink or cereal or snacks as I'd not want to overstep and me give him coke when he should have milk. Isn't that what most people do? Ask the parents what to give them if hungry or thirsty?

NIparty · 18/03/2023 10:35

Ilovedthe70s · 18/03/2023 09:46

My kids spent a lot of time with my parents. We couldn’t afford treats at home much (6 kids lone parent) so their grandparents liked to spoil them.
I didn’t want them having loads of sweets so after a couple of times I broached the subject with my dad, said I was concerned about the sugar and their teeth.
My dad would often take me to the supermarket to buy a shop for me, he was the kindest man, and I showed him the funsize treats and suggested those.
Worked perfectly, he took all the kids out to the shed and they made their own sweet box or the littlest decorated a tin and these boxes went on a shelf in the kitchen and became known to the kids as “My one a day box “ going to the shop to choose what to put in their box became another fond memory of times with Granddad

This is so lovely and a proper treat that's more about time with grandad than the actual chocolate

PrincessToad · 18/03/2023 10:36

turnthebiglightoff · 18/03/2023 08:49

My kid had 6 chocolate biscuits yesterday.

He also ran around for 2 hours at soft play, scooted for an hour on a walk and did a gymnastics class.

I also ate 6 chocolate biscuits but did none of the above.

A rich tea biscuit really isn't that much of a treat Grin

😂😂😂

Zer · 18/03/2023 10:37

PrincessToad · 18/03/2023 10:36

😂😂😂

Well they say you can't outrun a bad diet.

Zer · 18/03/2023 10:39

If you are uber strict with food/treats they will use their pocket money and gorge on treats

No. No, they won't necessarily. Same as that rubbish people spout about giving their 10 year old alcohol with meals so they learn to self regulate. Do you know what really happens? They learn to like sugar/junk food/alcohol.

CalpolDependant · 18/03/2023 10:40

This entire thread is weird and classic MN.

Everything in moderation.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 18/03/2023 10:40

Sammysquiz · 18/03/2023 08:56

OP never said she thought the rich tea biscuit was a ‘treat’!

I’m with you OP - toddlers shouldn’t be offered adult-sized mars bars, and offering them crap food sets up unhealthy eating habits for life.

Yes, I agree with this. But junk food is so much cheaper than it was 50 years ago so people buy and think that they are being loving. Infact, they are killing the ones they love.

It is so sad. Everyone thinks that it is just one treat, but they all add up and are giving the poor kids such bad habbits.

I do not think you can do anything about it without upsetting everyone and saying that they are not to give your kids anything without asking you. I would do that but most people aren't brave enough.

Zer · 18/03/2023 10:41

CalpolDependant · 18/03/2023 10:40

This entire thread is weird and classic MN.

Everything in moderation.

Not at 2, no.

ClaireStandishsLipstick · 18/03/2023 10:41

ancientgran · 18/03/2023 10:18

I never kissed mine on the lips, never let anyone else do it. An aunt kissed me on the lips, I was around 3, had the most horrendous herpes (cold sores) outbreak and they have dogged me all my life. If I could go back in time and stop that one thing I would.

As a teenager you could guarantee I'd get an outbreak for any party/disco or special occasion, it badly affected my self confidence. I come from a big Catholic family so lots of Baptisms and weddings, there isn't a photo of me at any event where I don't have cold sores.

Kissing them on the forehead, cheek, top of the head also shows affection without the risk.

So for me I'm not in the slightest worried about it being sexual but it isn't worth it. I'm sure people will tell me they've never had a cold sore so they are safe but most people who carry the herpes virus don't know they have it but they still shed virus.

The same happened to me when I was a baby, my great aunt kissed me and I ended up with a cold sore when I was christened. I completely know where you’re coming from as I have had cold sores at the worst of times. That said I still kissed my children, but if there was even the slightest hint of a funny feeling or a tingle then they were kept at arms length. One of the things I am happiest about for them is that they have never had a cold sore in their lives because I know the misery, but knowing the signs for how they start for me I was never putting them at risk. But I understand 100% why you avoided it.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 18/03/2023 10:43

PurpleFlower1983 · 18/03/2023 10:30

My family are like this. My kids have treats but my Mum and great Auntie insist on multiple things as if that’s how they have to show love. I have stopped complaining as it leads to arguments. I just make sure we don’t treat at home when they are seeing them. I’m overly aware as I was overweight from age 5 and I don’t want that for my daughter who is already ‘big’ for her age. She has slimmed down quite a bit recently but I don’t want her to have the issues with weight I have had all my life - also as a result if my great Auntie and others over treating!

That is so sad. Your family are killing your kids and unfortunately there is not much you can do without completing falling out with them. I really feel for you.

Baystard · 18/03/2023 10:43

CalpolDependant · 18/03/2023 10:40

This entire thread is weird and classic MN.

Everything in moderation.

Opium? Tobacco?

IMustDoMoreExercise · 18/03/2023 10:44

mrstiggywinklesapron · 18/03/2023 10:29

This!! My parents were super strict about sugary treats, I didn't even know sweets existed till I started school and they couldn't hide it any longer 😂 even fruit juice was rationed.

But as soon as I was getting myself home from school and could go to shops I ate my body weight in treats and I still have a very unhealthy relationship with food - binging and guilt!! Happy medium is very important with these things.

But as a sugar addict I love a rich tea, def a treat in my book 😂

But my parents were superstrict and I didn't do what you did.

dottiedodah · 18/03/2023 10:44

I hear you ,and felt the same when my DC were young.However life isnt perfect and we are conditioned as a society to offer"treats" to each other esp lo! I think its difficult ,but now and then wont do much harm.If you stop him then you will create an issue possibly.While at home tell DH to not offer a biscuit(better still dont have any in the house!)On a separate note regarding teeth issues ,dont forget there is a lot of sugar in fruit as well.

Meandfour · 18/03/2023 10:45

Tietheapron · 18/03/2023 10:06

OK, how is that funny, then? I don’t think I’m lacking a sense of humour but I don’t think this is intended to be funny; the poster genuinely feels that one biscuit is not a treat, because it is a humble Rich Tea!

That poster was me and I think nothing of the sort, thanks!
Neither you or I referred to a pissing rich tea biscuit as a treat 🙄 I was making a joke about it being a shit biscuit. Don’t make incorrect assumptions on what I feel.

ancientgran · 18/03/2023 10:46

Zer · 18/03/2023 10:39

If you are uber strict with food/treats they will use their pocket money and gorge on treats

No. No, they won't necessarily. Same as that rubbish people spout about giving their 10 year old alcohol with meals so they learn to self regulate. Do you know what really happens? They learn to like sugar/junk food/alcohol.

I grew up in a family where heavy drinking was normal. Start drinking at 10? Give me a break I was allowed alcohol before I was 5. What happened with me was when I got to the age where my friends thought it was grown up to be drinking I couldn't see the point. I'm teetotal, alcohol has no attraction for me.

People vary, their reaction to things varies, I think it is hard to give a firm rule on these things.

Zer · 18/03/2023 10:48

My parents were very strict about sugar and they were a bit before their time with healthy eating - brown rice, olive oil, no processed stuff. I think when I worked in London I used to get two white toast with butter and a huge tea with sugar every day for breakfast, but I just never grew up with a sweet tooth so didn't eat loads of chocolate bars ever.

Zer · 18/03/2023 10:49

ancientgran · 18/03/2023 10:46

I grew up in a family where heavy drinking was normal. Start drinking at 10? Give me a break I was allowed alcohol before I was 5. What happened with me was when I got to the age where my friends thought it was grown up to be drinking I couldn't see the point. I'm teetotal, alcohol has no attraction for me.

People vary, their reaction to things varies, I think it is hard to give a firm rule on these things.

Well that's a bit more extreme. Wine with water like the French do - yes and now the French have lots of problems with alcoholism.

WaltzingWaters · 18/03/2023 10:49

Completely agree with you. Yes, treats are fine in moderation, but they also just become a general daily bribery mechanism in a lot of cases. And the earlier they discover super sweet foods, the more used to them they’ll get. My 1 year old is still super excited for bananas and strawberries so I don’t see why I’d give him chocolate yet. I’ve not denied him a little taste here and there, but the excitement is the same as with fruit.

i used to nanny for kids and their grandad would bring cake half the time. If he didn’t bring it they didn’t want to know him, he was only welcome with cake.

Fifi0000 · 18/03/2023 10:50

Zer · 18/03/2023 10:39

If you are uber strict with food/treats they will use their pocket money and gorge on treats

No. No, they won't necessarily. Same as that rubbish people spout about giving their 10 year old alcohol with meals so they learn to self regulate. Do you know what really happens? They learn to like sugar/junk food/alcohol.

They do , because their friends will be having the occasional junk food from the shop and they want to join in but they lack the self control as it's all new and exciting. My parents banned junk food I did this.

Meandfour · 18/03/2023 10:50

Zer · 18/03/2023 10:48

My parents were very strict about sugar and they were a bit before their time with healthy eating - brown rice, olive oil, no processed stuff. I think when I worked in London I used to get two white toast with butter and a huge tea with sugar every day for breakfast, but I just never grew up with a sweet tooth so didn't eat loads of chocolate bars ever.

Nobody would’ve ever guessed 😂

Zer · 18/03/2023 10:51

Fifi0000 · 18/03/2023 10:50

They do , because their friends will be having the occasional junk food from the shop and they want to join in but they lack the self control as it's all new and exciting. My parents banned junk food I did this.

No, not necessarily. They may have it with their friends but not love it enough to gorge themselves or buy it independently- my dd is like this.

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