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My child’s school have changed the name of Mother’s Day to special persons day, what do you think?

597 replies

Rainbow03 · 17/03/2023 11:50

Have we gone mad or is this appropriate?

OP posts:
Axahooxa · 17/03/2023 16:11

ilovesooty · Today 14:39
Hotitalian · Today 14:37
Utter craziness from the Scholl. The woke crowd have control now.
Another one who's convinced that there is some kind of anti woman agenda.

there is definitely an anti-woman agenda.

It’s just not in evidence in this school’s kind and well-considered approach to Mother’s Day.

Barannca · 17/03/2023 16:11

Mothering Sunday is a very old festival part way through Lent when people returned to their Mother Church. It has nothing to do with mothers.
Mother's day is a commercial event . So I don't thinks it's a problem if the school wants to acknowledge that not all children have mothers or are able to live with their mothers.
Calling it a special person day is much more inclusive and less upsetting for many children

Somebodiesmother · 17/03/2023 16:11

felixfeline · 17/03/2023 16:06

Haven't RTFT but they'd better bloody well do the same for fathers day!

You'd know the answer to this if you had read the bloody thread.

Hairfriar · 17/03/2023 16:12

This is why I believed it better to support my children and teach them to be robust, to understand that others have bad things happen also in other ways and develop complex empathy skills, that it's selfish to take away the joyful bonding experience from another family will have because they are sad it won't make them happier only narcissistic.

Although I agree it would be ideal to help
Children to develop resilience, it's not the right time for some children, things may be too raw, they may not have any adults in their life that can adequately support them in developing these skills and it may not be appropriate depending on the trauma they have suffered. Try to imagine the average school. There will be children who have lost their mum through death, some who are in care, some adopted and working through the confusion of not being with birth mum, some who've left their mum behind in another country, some who've had their mum leave home.

ilovesooty · 17/03/2023 16:13

felixfeline · 17/03/2023 16:06

Haven't RTFT but they'd better bloody well do the same for fathers day!

They have. It's been quite clearly stated.

ilovesooty · 17/03/2023 16:14

LittleFingerStrength · 17/03/2023 16:07

Strawman

Again. Your default response. 🙄

redskylight · 17/03/2023 16:15

I'm fairly sure that when the children do their "Special person activity" the teacher will encourage them to think about who the special person in their life might be. And, for those that who have a mother they consider special, it's highly likely they will be directed to think about her.

The official name of the school day is less important than how it's managed in practice.

Halfanorphan · 17/03/2023 16:15

LittleFingerStrength · 17/03/2023 15:19

I am so sorry that happened to you, proves how cruel teachers can be.

They do it now this way because it suits the political agenda of activist Teachers trying to control social norms, they will manipulate anything, as it clearly works. The agenda is to eradicate family, traditions and history.

They want to throw everything out with the bathwater and start again, conserve nothing, they deem your children as theirs - to promote their world views - that is why they call you breeders!

Please don’t change the narrative of my post to suit your twisted agenda.

LittleFingerStrength · 17/03/2023 16:16

Aweebitpainful · 17/03/2023 16:10

@LittleFingerStrength do you pride yourself on having little empathy? You are saying people like myself have a simplistic view of this... I'd argue you do actually.

I have a longer term view and wider consideration in my opinion. You can't undo painful things by making everyone else miserable. Life is unfair. Envy and trying destroy others isn't healthy and encouraging it in children is not helpful.

Somebodiesmother · 17/03/2023 16:19

LittleFingerStrength · 17/03/2023 16:16

I have a longer term view and wider consideration in my opinion. You can't undo painful things by making everyone else miserable. Life is unfair. Envy and trying destroy others isn't healthy and encouraging it in children is not helpful.

How is it making others miserable or trying to destroy others?

Halfanorphan · 17/03/2023 16:20

Aweebitpainful · 17/03/2023 15:56

Why can't we just ask these children what they want?! Or if they want to do it? I would have been content to sit in the corner reading a book... I never wanted the other children not to do the activity... I just didn't want to be forced into doing it myself.

Children should have autonomy in this matter. Their feelings do matter.

I don’t think at infant school age, six weeks after my dad died I would’ve have had the ability to express myself properly or make that choice.
what if the child chooses to start a card and gets overcome with grief? Can they change their mind?
Autonomy is only reasonable if capable of making the autonomous decision.

Hairfriar · 17/03/2023 16:21

Rainbow03 · 17/03/2023 14:25

I’m wondering around my house now with my baby in her sling and if I wasn’t here anymore I’d want people to go to the ends of the earth to make sure she was ok. I can’t see how people can’t want the same for all of those little people dealing with a pain I could hardly endure when I lost my dad when I was 33.

Yes, this.

My friend died when her son was 6, actually. The Headteacher at school showed me the card he'd made the next year and it broke my heart in two.

ilovesooty · 17/03/2023 16:21

Somebodiesmother · 17/03/2023 16:19

How is it making others miserable or trying to destroy others?

She can't explain that. Not much point in trying to debate with someone determined to twist things to her own agenda.

Comedycook · 17/03/2023 16:22

I think the term "envy" when you are discussing how children whose mums are dead might be feeling is pretty spiteful. Was I envious of kids with a mum...well obviously. I felt like utter shit.

User0610134057 · 17/03/2023 16:22

I think if it’s done for the benefit of children who don’t live with their mums, are in care or with dads or grandparents then I can kind of see it. I wouldn’t assume it’s about transgender stuff at all.

Aweebitpainful · 17/03/2023 16:23

@Halfanorphan at the age of six I also lost my mother so Flowers because it's a terrible experience. I did articulate that I didn't want to do the activity... but I was forced. I was that child sitting at the table crying... but I get your point.

BlackBarbies · 17/03/2023 16:24

NannyElle · 17/03/2023 11:56

I would assume they have done it to include those who don't have a mother in their life for one reason or other. Don't see why it's a big deal really or why posters need to jump on it as a pro trans thing

Exactly lol

LittleFingerStrength · 17/03/2023 16:26

Comedycook · 17/03/2023 16:22

I think the term "envy" when you are discussing how children whose mums are dead might be feeling is pretty spiteful. Was I envious of kids with a mum...well obviously. I felt like utter shit.

I have my world view you have yours.

I am working from the 7 deadly sins and that's how people managed for a very long time and how I managed loss in my family, you disagree, fine.

I wasn't going to have my children coveting others families, being nasty and spiteful trying to destroy their joy. We were happy for them and supportive of them.

Some view this as evil and what they do as good, like I care about having the good opinions of people like that!

Comedycook · 17/03/2023 16:28

Cruel

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 17/03/2023 16:28

The DC's primary school (CofE, so they were really into the religious bit too), stopped doing it - few years ago, when 2 families had lost their mums earlier that year.

They started doing a big Easter assembly instead.

And it had the bonus of them no longer singing patronising , misogynistic, low expectation songs about mothers only being good for cooking.

My youngest child left that school last year. I don't know if Mother's Day has been reinstated.

Aweebitpainful · 17/03/2023 16:28

I'm actually lost for words...

Back2front · 17/03/2023 16:29

Good. I was never comfortable with it when my kids were at school as both had friends whose mothers had died.

Comedycook · 17/03/2023 16:30

Imagine telling bereaved kids that they should not be envious of children who have not lost a parent...in fact they should relish in their happiness.

Wow

ThisNameIsNotAvailable · 17/03/2023 16:30

LittleFingerStrength · 17/03/2023 16:26

I have my world view you have yours.

I am working from the 7 deadly sins and that's how people managed for a very long time and how I managed loss in my family, you disagree, fine.

I wasn't going to have my children coveting others families, being nasty and spiteful trying to destroy their joy. We were happy for them and supportive of them.

Some view this as evil and what they do as good, like I care about having the good opinions of people like that!

I think I’ve missed something. Who’s being nasty and spiteful and trying to destroy joy?

Aweebitpainful · 17/03/2023 16:30

Comedycook · 17/03/2023 16:30

Imagine telling bereaved kids that they should not be envious of children who have not lost a parent...in fact they should relish in their happiness.

Wow

I know. My brains boggled. Poor children.