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My child’s school have changed the name of Mother’s Day to special persons day, what do you think?

597 replies

Rainbow03 · 17/03/2023 11:50

Have we gone mad or is this appropriate?

OP posts:
Rosula · 17/03/2023 13:39

oakleaffy · 17/03/2023 12:08

Kids deal with loss and grief all the time.
It’s part of life.

So why do they have to have their loss thrown at them in school if it can be avoided perfectly easily.? The school has two choices. (1) it can carry on as before, highlighting to certain children that they're different from the others because their mother has died/buggered off/been prevented from caring for them for their safety, or whatever. Sure, the school can do what it can to ease the blow by taking them to one side and suggesting they do the card/picture for their aunt/foster parent/Dad etc, but those children will yet again be reminded that they are different and they don't have a mother. Or (2) they can change it to special persons' day which doesn't exclude anyone.

For me, it's (2) every time.

UniPsychle · 17/03/2023 13:40

I know what you mean and if we were sure that every family was able to help their child navigate these situations then maybe not doing them in school would be better. But many families are not able to do that, maybe because they are so caught up in their own grief, or are struggling to juggle everything as a single parent or don't know what to do and are so worried about getting it wrong that they do nothing. Childhood is a time to protect children but it is also a time to gently and sensitively teach them to manage difficult things.

ancientgran · 17/03/2023 13:40

SFHJ · 17/03/2023 12:59

Growing up without a mum, I was always asked what I wanted to do for the Mother’s Day activity, did I want to do it to take to mums grave, did I want to do something for someone else, did I want to do something different.
it is Mother’s Day and shouldn’t be anything else!

It isn't. It's Mothering Sunday.

BossBerk · 17/03/2023 13:41

Mothers and Others. I like that!!

UniPsychle · 17/03/2023 13:41

Sorry, the above was to @Rosula

user1471538283 · 17/03/2023 13:41

I think mothers day and father's Day should be both those days and special person day. Not everyone has a mother and father.

My friend was raised by her aunt who she viewed as her mother. She didn't fit in to mothers day but was incredibly important.

My DSs "DF" wasn't in his life but his DGF was and we personally made a fuss but school didn't.

This isn't about trans.

Rosula · 17/03/2023 13:41

Beezknees · 17/03/2023 13:36

I think it's ridiculous to be honest. I don't have a father, I don't think that other people should be told they can't call it father's day just because I don't have one.

No-one's telling them they can't call it Mothers' Day. They're just choosing to celebrate something different in school. There's no indication whatsoever that the school is seeking to police what happens at home.

SleepingStandingUp · 17/03/2023 13:41

Xenia · 17/03/2023 13:13

Ludicroue and downplays the importance of mothers . I feel the same about maternity policies not using the word mother - it is insulting to women.

But OP said Father's Day was Special Persons Day too, so it isn't about the denigration or women or their roles is it?

feellikeanalien · 17/03/2023 13:42

As long as it's the same on Fathers Day I would have no issue with it. DD has SN and lost her Dad two years ago. She finds Fathers Day very upsetting and the school always make sure that she goes off with one of the TAs and makes a card for me instead.

It's not just on the day she gets upset, she will randomly ask me through the year what will happen on Fathers Day.

I don't remember it being a thing when I was at school.

Rosula · 17/03/2023 13:43

UniPsychle · 17/03/2023 13:40

I know what you mean and if we were sure that every family was able to help their child navigate these situations then maybe not doing them in school would be better. But many families are not able to do that, maybe because they are so caught up in their own grief, or are struggling to juggle everything as a single parent or don't know what to do and are so worried about getting it wrong that they do nothing. Childhood is a time to protect children but it is also a time to gently and sensitively teach them to manage difficult things.

Sure, but the sensible way to do that is during the course of the normal school day - not deliberately setting up an activity which others them and expecting them to cope.

ZombiesForever · 17/03/2023 13:43

@UniPsychle Bereaved children are asked to handle things we would not ask an adult to handle.
How would you react if two weeks after your mum's death your workplace made you make Mothers Day cards alongside your colleagues as a fun teambuilder? You would be outraged at their insensitivity.

Annalouisa · 17/03/2023 13:43

AllOfThemWitches · 17/03/2023 11:55

I assume it's for kids whose mothers aren't in their lives

By the same logic, what about kids who don't have a "special person" in their lives? 😶

ZombiesForever · 17/03/2023 13:44

@Annalouisa I always think that too.

CaptainMyCaptain · 17/03/2023 13:46

Annalouisa · 17/03/2023 13:43

By the same logic, what about kids who don't have a "special person" in their lives? 😶

A child who doesn't have a single special person whether grandparent, foster parent, sibling would be a very sad case and, I hope, would be getting more intervention than an alternative card making session.

happyinherts · 17/03/2023 13:46

ZombiesForever · 17/03/2023 13:43

@UniPsychle Bereaved children are asked to handle things we would not ask an adult to handle.
How would you react if two weeks after your mum's death your workplace made you make Mothers Day cards alongside your colleagues as a fun teambuilder? You would be outraged at their insensitivity.

Yes - this exactly. It's far deeper rooted than just a card. A bereaved child has to endure other issues. A permanent lack of parent at sports days, assemblies, fun events - the whispering behind the back, the looks to see who is picking the child up and what relation they could be? Bereaved children don't fit in as easily as others because they have other issues to contend with - which time usually heals, but making them make a card knowing they have no one to give it too is cruel. Posters who think it's 'just life' clearly have a lot to learn. Be grateful it wasn't you.

ancientgran · 17/03/2023 13:47

CaptainMyCaptain · 17/03/2023 13:46

A child who doesn't have a single special person whether grandparent, foster parent, sibling would be a very sad case and, I hope, would be getting more intervention than an alternative card making session.

Maybe their teacher, who is sensitive enough to know that not all kids have mothers to give their card to, is a special person to that child?

LaviniasBigBloomers · 17/03/2023 13:47

Rainbow03 · 17/03/2023 13:36

Why not just give the children two days a year to take the time out to recognise someone in their life who has shown them kindness, perhaps someone who needs a little lift. Not all mothers who are around are great also. Why even go so far as to say one man and one women for each day, what does it actually matter. I need no recognition. my own daughter has made a card for her nanny because she is on her own since my dad died and she loves her nanny. It’s not for me and she has a mum but I love her so much for showing such empathy at age 6.

Having read through the thread I'm now leaning towards schools having one day to celebrate the people who care for us. Assembly, cards and crafts, tea party, the full thing. They can invite the dinner ladies and the lollipop people too, bring the whole community together and make it a whole school celebration.

That's what I'd do if I was in charge of the world, anyway.

Timeforachangeisitnot · 17/03/2023 13:48

@Quveas you are late to the party, several people have explained the roots of Mothering Sunday to me, which I actually do appreciate.

Samhain and modern Halloween are poles apart, and I stand by my comment that Halloween, and especially ‘trick or treat’ are commercial enterprises to sell tat and sugar. Guising is a long standing tradition where I am from, but it was nothing like Halloween today.

Totally agree there is a discussion to be had. Mothers and Others as suggested would be great. But school appear not to have had the discussion , just unilaterally decided.

As I said in my original posy, happy to see all positive influences celebrated, but why cancel Mothers?

UniPsychle · 17/03/2023 13:49

Axahooxa · 17/03/2023 13:05

@UniPsychle Talking to children, acknowledging that it might be hard for them and giving them choices in how to manage it is empowering. Hopefully in a way that will prepare them to cope with these 'celebrations' in adulthood.

If a teacher has 2 hours put aside to make cards, the scope is not there to do this sensitively, while managing the rest of the class, and all their needs, as they do the activity. I think this is a good point, but I’m aware that this sort of intervention is not one that could be done quickly, plus it may not be appropriate if a child is in the middle of sudden a change or a very difficult, potentially traumatic situation. Any traumatized child won’t be able to have a quick chat and be ok with this.

In my mind it’s far better to adapt the celebration and make it inclusive.

You're right, it probably can't be done quickly but I would very much hope that any child who is in this situation has already been receiving some form of additional support. All the schools I work with have put in something extra for children who have been bereaved. For children who are not experiencing trauma but whose every day 'normal' includes not having either a mum or a dad around then sensible, inclusive conversations when you're introducing the activity would be enough.

wobblymum1 · 17/03/2023 13:49

Zipps · 17/03/2023 11:55

I actually agree on this one. It stops kids living in foster families, in care, with grandparents or with two dads not feeling left out. Not everyone has a wonderful loving mother either.

I completely agree

CaptainMyCaptain · 17/03/2023 13:50

ancientgran · 17/03/2023 13:47

Maybe their teacher, who is sensitive enough to know that not all kids have mothers to give their card to, is a special person to that child?

Well I would hope there was somebody. As a teacher I hope I would know about a child in this situation and try to make their life easier all the time.

wobblymum1 · 17/03/2023 13:50

LaviniasBigBloomers · 17/03/2023 13:47

Having read through the thread I'm now leaning towards schools having one day to celebrate the people who care for us. Assembly, cards and crafts, tea party, the full thing. They can invite the dinner ladies and the lollipop people too, bring the whole community together and make it a whole school celebration.

That's what I'd do if I was in charge of the world, anyway.

Love this

sqirrelfriends · 17/03/2023 13:51

I’m not usually a fan when the names of things change but I really can’t see the issue with this. There are children who don’t have a mother, they could live with their dad, and aunt, in foster care. All the references to Mother’s Day could make them feel left out.

Marblessolveeverything · 17/03/2023 13:51

I heard of this happening twice over the years. However it was where a child had lost their mother tragically the month before and it was a tiny school all parents were advised they were taking this approach.

Each year after they always framed mother's or father's day as themselves but also highlighted you could include someone else who is important to them.

That is really the only case where I could understand taking the action.

SleepingStandingUp · 17/03/2023 13:52

CaptainMyCaptain · 17/03/2023 13:46

A child who doesn't have a single special person whether grandparent, foster parent, sibling would be a very sad case and, I hope, would be getting more intervention than an alternative card making session.

Quite. That would surely be a case for SS and either school would be aware and could work around the odd case, or it would be something that would actually be of benefit coming to light as the child clearly isn't in the right home.

And if your kid comes home and bring your a card saying how much they love you but you're upset because it doesn't have the Mom word emblazoned across it, give them a pen or check your yourself.