Big salary increase, but lower title. Would you accept?

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Hi,

Just that really. How important to you is your job title? Is it more important to you than salary or would you always follow the 💰💰💰

I couldn't care less what titles I have. The money is the important thing to me.

I agree with all the points on salary being the vital thing, but I think job titles can be important, especially when you want your CV to tell a coherent ‘narrative’ about your career.

If a range of random job titles make it hard for employers to see progression in someone’s CV I think I that could be an issue. I had one job that had a really unnecessarily job title and it just looks really out of place on my CV.

I did that, dropping from medior to junior. The pay rise was significant and it was quite nice to be able to refuse to take responsibilities. It felt ridiculous talking to clients though because I had 7 years of experience but was unable to be main contact or decision maker because of my stupid title. It really started to grate after 6 months, but thankfully they agreed to a promotion.

Money speaks louder than a fancy job title.

In the medical profession, isn't a surgeon or consultant addressed as Mr? So after years of working their way up the ladder, a doctor becomes Mr. I doubt it bothers them.

Money

Money every time-I don’t pay the bills with a job tittle. I pay little attention to them anyway, some company’s give a boost in title rather than wage increases as well as the fact that I think people lie about them, I recently interviewed a person whose last role was ‘assistant project manager’ but they job was actually an assistant shop manager. I have no doubt people who worked for now defunct companies bump up what experience/job/tittle as how could anyone check.

It depends on how rigid titles are in your profession. Or are they meaningless. Where I work there are a lot of Heads of xxxx but it's really junior manager roles.

Money, then try and negotiate the best title you can get.

Money. The titles at my company mean that no one really has a clue what anyone does anyway.

I took a pay cut for a much better job title and regretted it sooooo much. The job title meant sod all.

Learn from my experience. If they’re paying you more, it’s a better job.

DH once met a person at a conference who worked for an international company. Unlike most who tend to divide between US , EMEA and AP - this person's company only had two VPs / global managers . So when Dh took this chap's business card ( and this is true ) his title was VP of the Western World. DH had to bite his cheek to stop a laugh.

I know that does not answer your question but thought funny.

I would take the money in a heart beat but do try to negotiate a better title.

I am also very curious to know what the actual titles are and wether the job role will change to reflect the title change.

It really honestly depends on your industry and role.

Would I take a pay cut for a job title? Nope. But a job title that takes you up to the next level is worth its weight in gold in terms of career progression and longer term salary growth increasing. A PP mentioned career and CV narrative and this is so true.

Titles are irrelevant. Who on earth would give a shit about the title?

I mean, you could be CEO of your own company making (in real terms) less than minimum wage, or you could be a manager in a large global group earning £200k. Titles mean nothing.

If you pay me enough you can call me whatever you like

The size of company will matter though. A 'lower' title in a bigger company could well be a much bigger job to have on your CV than the 'higher' title in a family business.

I work for money, not my ego. A title “aint gunna pay my mortgage hunnay!”

Money, every time. In exjob my title was x assistant - despite being the only person doing that job. Still got a lovely increase in the last round of pay rises I was there for - more than anyone in the entire dept. Do they value you enough and pay you enough?

I used to work for an American bank; stay there long enough and you got to be a VP or SVP. It wasn't always a reflection of ability to do the job well.

Worker. Employee. If that’s your status get as much money as you can like you said a title is meaningless if you are a worker bee like the rest if us. Unless you are a medical Consultant MD or something like that.

Money. Titles don’t pay the bills and most people don’t know what they mean anyway, they can be very obscure.

In the US company I worked for we had Assistant Treasurers (AT), Assistant VPs (AVP) and Vice Presidents (VP). The joke in London was that VPs could read and write, AVPs could read OR write and ATs knew someone who could read and write. VPs and AVPs were ten a penny in the US office.

And you can christen your children Prince and Princess if it will make you feel better 👑

My colleague and I are at the same level. He has a long impressive sounding title and actually people who don't know assume he is my bosses boss. In reality we do almost the same thing (I have an extra 3 things under my remit) but I have never pushed for the title only pay.

Titles are all bullshit. Get the job, take the money, manipulate the role to your desired focus once you're in it then seek to get the title changed to reflect that.

Follow the money every time . Call me whatever you wish ,but a title won't pay the bills or help you save some money to have a more secure future.