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Big salary increase, but lower title. Would you accept?

78 replies

PoundsoverTitle · 15/03/2023 10:51

Hi,

Just that really. How important to you is your job title? Is it more important to you than salary or would you always follow the 💰💰💰

OP posts:
MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 15/03/2023 11:31

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 15/03/2023 11:29

Can you negotiate on the title, OP? I have had prospective employees do this, and have been happy to accommodate (within reason!).

Sorry, just seen that you said that might be a possibility. Go for it!

As an employer, I want the best people, and I would hate to think of a great candidate being deterred because of something as simple as a job title. Obviously, some organisations will have more flexibility on this than others, but it's definitely worth an ask!

Bumply · 15/03/2023 11:36

Job titles at the places I've worked are tied in with salary bands, but different companies using different titles wouldn't have any meaning to me as long as it's for equivalent work+salary.

TimeForMeToF1y · 15/03/2023 11:38

I don't care what my or any one else's job title is, who would turn down a big salary increase for that? Well weird imo

WinterMusings · 15/03/2023 11:39

Depends. Do they already have a 'xyz title' person?

maybe it means more in that company than your current company?

(highest title of a person in a local gift shop is not the same as the same title in Amazon for example. It's unrealistic to expect to keep the same title in another company if it's very different)

what are your prospects for promotion in the new company?

you can negotiate the new title, but don't cut off your nose to spite your face.

kirinm · 15/03/2023 11:42

TimeForMeToF1y · 15/03/2023 11:38

I don't care what my or any one else's job title is, who would turn down a big salary increase for that? Well weird imo

Job titles often have an impact on work, pay, how much you can charge etc. in certain industries titles matter a lot.

FatAgainItsLettuceTime · 15/03/2023 11:48

I work for an American company, everyone has stupid titles that don't really mean anything, we have a couple of hundred Vice Presidents of something or other.

Take the money, then make sure your CV is well written and clearly shows your responsibilities in the role.

mindutopia · 15/03/2023 11:51

How much flexibility is there to change it? I applied for and was offered a job that was a lower grade than my previous one - for no reason other than, it was a project I really wanted to work on, but the funding only supported a particular grade person in that role. I negotiated to take it on part-time (4 days a week, which was what I wanted to work anyway), but had them re-grade the role and change the title to fit my current level.

Ultimately, if you like the work and the money is right, I'd take it.

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 15/03/2023 11:52

Boris Johnson's done very well after losing the Prime Minister job title.

CleaningOutMyCloset · 15/03/2023 11:56

Money every day. A company can call me what they want as long as they pay well and treat me well

slowsundays · 15/03/2023 11:57

Money over status every time. Do it.

emmathedilemma · 15/03/2023 12:04

in my experience, different companies (even in the same industry) use the same title for very different roles e.g. one company might have every other person defined as a Director, but in another company there's only 5 of those at the very top level of senior management. You need to look at what the role involves to judge what's comparable.

Missingthegore · 15/03/2023 12:05

Is it a new job in a different company?
Language and position titles differ so much from company to company. I was on call the other week and the on call job is "executive on call" despite none of us being executives, we are the ops leadership team. I called another organisation in the same city and asked for the "executive on call"......I got put through to the bloody CEO, simply because of a difference in language, at that organisation my counterpart is called the "operations director on call". Some serious back pedaling required on my end.

If you are getting more money and a similar role who cares!

danni0509 · 15/03/2023 12:09

You can’t pay your mortgage and shopping in titles.

DoorstoManual · 15/03/2023 12:22

They could call me anything they like, as long as it is not too early in the morning. 😂

Lcb123 · 15/03/2023 12:28

Salary!! Titles are pretty random from employer to employer especially international I’ve had job titles that are mapped from another country.

TimeForMeToF1y · 15/03/2023 12:47

kirinm · 15/03/2023 11:42

Job titles often have an impact on work, pay, how much you can charge etc. in certain industries titles matter a lot.

Are there male dominated industries by any chance? It's pretty clear from this thread so far that it's not an issue for most

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 15/03/2023 12:47

I'd take the money, that's what I go to work for.

Spiderboy · 15/03/2023 12:48

Take the money!! But still have a conversation to see if the job title name can be adjusted

Champooforyou · 15/03/2023 12:50

It totally depends, if you're going from Project Manager to Project Assistant for example that could completely fuck your CV. Is there room to negotiate your title?

AcornGreen · 15/03/2023 12:55

With kindness, what sort of person would accept a lower salary for a better job title? It would be like paying your employer £40k a year just to have a title!

vitahelp · 15/03/2023 12:58

I would care more about the money

Riapia · 15/03/2023 13:21

“Well the money is very good. But could you please give me a title that sounds a little more important, just to use in front of friends and family, you know?”

amusedbush · 15/03/2023 13:33

I would take the money.

For what it's worth, my previous job title was [Department Name] Administrator, which doesn't come within a mile of explaining what the role had evolved into over the years but was tied into a historic pay bracket system ([department name] assistant/administrator/officer/manager, each tied to a fixed bracket across the company).

It did me no harm when interviewing for my current job (big pay rise, niche title); I just explained what I did in practice and spun it into a case for how I'd been working well beyond expectations for that title.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 15/03/2023 13:36

I think people are misunderstanding if they think that the OP cares about the title just so that she can show off in front of friends and family. It's clear that she is concerned about the potential impact on her cv and future career prospects.

That might not matter in the slightest for some jobs/industries, but it certainly does in others. Especially for people likely to be pursuing senior roles in the future where a certain level of experience is expected.

It sounds like the level of responsibility suggested by the high salary isn't reflected in the job title. The OP is being sensible to consider this and perhaps negotiate a more suitable title with her new employer. That doesn't mean that she shouldn't take the job, but it's certainly worth checking if there is any flexibility on the title.

GoodChat · 15/03/2023 13:49

Are you a doctor that's going to become a secretary?

That's a bit different to Operations Director becoming Head of Operations.