Disrespectful to make fun of another poster because they speak and write differently because they are from the US

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Just that really.
I saw a post and within it another poster decided it was annoying the way another poster had written the word "y'all".Plenty of Southerners,not just Texans used this word daily.It was really strange how she kept on about it and even said we "y'all " sayers shouldn't even write it out here on mumsnet. Personally I'm from the state that has lots of tornadoes fyi.
But I've never seen anyone nor would I ever dare tell another poster how to spell words or how to put them on paper,EVER.
It's not a UK,US thing at all.
I just think we need to respect each other more.
I'm aware there will be some that come for me on here,but I will still continue to encourage us all to respect each other more.

Sorry- you didn’t correct it- you pointed and laughed.

Would lead to some confusing conversations 🤷‍♀️

Hah, alas that was the product of an interest enduring in etymology and language, rather than google. Although I’m sure you could indeed fact check it using google. Go ahead?

Yes, it is a word of French origin that is widely used by speakers of the english language. One of many thousand, actually. The English language itself is of Germanic origin.

@MissingMoominMamma you do know that the misspelling of Murphy is a deliberate joke, don't you?

@Eyerollcentral I do disagree, yes. I think it's context-dependant (i think you do too, really, because you use language differently with different media). Language can be fun, and frivolous, as well as deeply serious and life-altering...and everything in between. Either way, it's ever-changing and outta our hands. I kinda like that about it, y'know?

I don’t need to google, I know what I am talking about.

Aka you’re averse to being corrected.

Not at all, you haven’t corrected me though, you’ve agreed with what I said.

🤣🤣🤣

Typical superiority to think "poseur" is an English word "derived from French" and hers (including lol) is perfect to use while chastising others.

That poster is totes hilarious! "Lol"

It is a word in English and French. The English word does derive from the French. How is it superiority? I’m not English. I didn’t claim at any time my use of language was perfect, I do think adults cosplaying Americans and using phrases such as Y’all is super cringey

Tbh, given how many influences there are on the English language, and always has been, why not? Proper grammar for writing when it's required, formal speech when necessary but I don't think yo u an stop the ebb and flow of language

You could have saved a lot of time and just said, when I was 10 I knew kids who came back from the US with fake accents, so now I think anyone who uses any Americanisms is a deeply annoying twit.

Not sure why you think everyone in the UK agrees with you though.

This is a good explanation. It grates when I hear “y’all” on TV to mean one person. I’ve never heard anyone do that in real life. (Maybe it happens in another part of the South from where I grew up. But clearly the common usage in my region is superior.)

For the person who was so rudely corrected here, I suggest you begin using “yinz” to really tick people off.

I’m open to being corrected if I am indeed wrong. If you’d like to provide reputable sources to disprove my assertions then please do.

You’re not open to disabusing yourself of the notions you’ve, for whatever reason, made an emotional investment in, and as such you are averse to reading anything that contradicts your worldview, preferring instead to cling to comfortable fallacies.

What are you on about? You agreed with me that the word is French in origin but is also defined as a stand-alone English word deriving from the original French. You’ve tied yourself up in a knot here over nothing.

I correct my DC and they mock me for it but it is not a provisional thing to me it is about cultural identity and preserving that connection with your background. However, I don't relate that to the whole of the UK as I can see this varies quite a bit.

I think it is rude to poke fun at how anybody speaks. I also think it is the height of bad manners to correct other peoples grammar, spelling mistakes etc. It says more about the person that is pointing it out, and their obvious flaws than the person on the receiving end.

Provincial not provisional

high school

This is one that crops up now and then on MN as a to-be-avoided Americanism, ignoring the fact there are some schools in the UK that actually have “high school” in the name. In fact, “high school” in the US comes directly from Scotland.The first school in the US to be called a “high school” was named by someone who took it from the Royal High School in Edinburgh.The usage stuck and spread all over the US.

So we got it from y’all. Not all y’all, obviously, but some of y’all.

How does it have a singular?

Other posters have addressed this and were correct in their explanations, but another example is if I am in a business meeting with colleagues here in the Deep South and there are 10 people in the meeting. The group has been asked to attend a site viewing for a project they are working on. I assist the team leader and as such I'm in charge of arranging the site visit. I might say "Are all y'all going or just some of y'all?"

Another important point is that y’all is mainly a Southern usage, but it is also a feature of African American Vernacular English across the US. For example, President Obama often uses it.

Slightly backpedalling, are we?

Who said you're English?

It's laughable really and ironic to think that a French word is now an English word and shouldnt be considered an affectation when someone who isn't French uses it, but an American English word isn't English enough for ya. You also consider it perfect to use the internet slang "Lol" but somehow "Y'all" is beneath your majesty?

You say you're far superior to someone who uses Y'all when they aren't American but now say you never claimed your use of English is perfect? I wouldn't boldly tell people how to speak English (American or otherwise) if my use of English isn't perfect. That's just bonkers, y'all!

"Lol" indeed (to quote you)

That is a small part of it but not all of it. It defo marked the beginning of noticing a trend that I have continued to observe through life, people who do wanky things tend to be wankers. I have also met some of the adult US slangers in real life and good lord, terminally annoying to a person. It’s a real bellwether for me, I’m yet to encounter someone who does use f.e. Y’all who isn’t a bit of a wanker. I haven’t once said or implied everyone in the UK agreed with me. A lot of people do though.

If you think High School is contentious, you should go to a High School in the Midlands where for Mother's Day you make a card for for MOM

the knicker twisting on here over the abhorrent usage of the MOM word when along with orange chips, it's perfectly normal and right where I come from 😂

It's not just Americans. There was a post I saw a while back with British posters pretending to be completely unable to understand an Irish poster who used a few Irish-English words/phrases, that were not difficult to work out even if you'd never heard them before.
It was excrutiating to read, all "Golly gosh, I can not understand what at all you mean! This is incomprehensible nonsense, what ho!".

Alas, some people are just dicks. Sometimes it's better to have the advance warning

Not at all back pedalling. If you read my posts I’ve said the same thing consistently since the other poster brought it up.
‘It's laughable really and ironic to think that a French word is now an English word and shouldnt be considered an affectation’ - it’s not an affectation because poseur is recognised as an English word, deriving from the French original. I’m not sure why you can’t follow that.
I don’t think y’all is beneath me. I do think someone sitting in Catford or Birmingham or Carlisle saying y’all is a bit of a saddo twit trying to look like they have a personality.
I haven’t said my use of English is perfect. I use the idiom of hiberno-English originating where I was born and brought up. I don’t go round doing a Liam Gallagher impression because I was ‘immersed’ in the culture of the North West of England working in Manchester for a decade.