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Disrespectful to make fun of another poster because they speak and write differently because they are from the US

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StopThinkBeforeYouJudge · 13/03/2023 00:48

Just that really.
I saw a post and within it another poster decided it was annoying the way another poster had written the word "y'all".Plenty of Southerners,not just Texans used this word daily.It was really strange how she kept on about it and even said we "y'all " sayers shouldn't even write it out here on mumsnet. Personally I'm from the state that has lots of tornadoes fyi.
But I've never seen anyone nor would I ever dare tell another poster how to spell words or how to put them on paper,EVER.
It's not a UK,US thing at all.
I just think we need to respect each other more.
I'm aware there will be some that come for me on here,but I will still continue to encourage us all to respect each other more.

OP posts:
FrostyFifi · 14/03/2023 08:24

I hate the expression because in the UK the only people that use it are SJE knobs who have spent way too long on twitter and use it to patronisingly tell people about female penises.

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 14/03/2023 10:00

I think a certain poster would hate me as I unconsciously pick up an accent within days regardless of where I am in the country.

LadyWindermeresOnlyFans · 14/03/2023 10:02

@TracyBeakerSoYeah ugh, here's that attention you ordered Hmm (joking!!)

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 14/03/2023 10:29

@LadyWindermeresOnlyFans 😂

Funnily enough picking up the accent & passing is really the opposite of attention seeking as you are blending in.
As days within being back in my usual location I must sound how I normally do as no one comments but then no one comments on my accent when I've been living somewhere else.
Only if someone's asked for directions & as not being local to that area I have to say sorry I'm not from round here. Then I get told 'oh but you sound local'

But then I'm not sure what my original accent is or whether I have one as no one has ever guessed where I originally grew up & sounds surprised when I tell them.

watcherintherye · 14/03/2023 10:30

Caramelsmadfuzzytail · 13/03/2023 21:00

The only thing I dislike about US English is when my ds runs on about parking lots and garbage cans and such like.
I use "butt" a lot because "bum" makes me feel like I'm 3 and "arse" is generally not acceptable to say in front of small people.

🤔bottom?

LadyWindermeresOnlyFans · 14/03/2023 10:35

@TracyBeakerSoYeah I love stuff like this! Before I moved to where I live now, if I ever met anyone from here I would really struggle to understand every other word because the accent was so different to what I was used to despite only being 40 miles down the motorway. Now, when they visit me here, my family tease me for having "changed" the way I speak because I've been here a while. But when I'm in my hometown I sound like I've never left.

Accents & dialects are so fascinating!

MrsMariaReynolds · 14/03/2023 10:37

Well, on MN, anti-Americanism is perfectly acceptable, supposedly.

Imagine if someone wrote a post using colloquiums from their birthplace in India, or Pakistan or China...or...?

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 14/03/2023 10:52

@LadyWindermeresOnlyFans that's one of my interests accents/dialects/sounds & like you say it's fascinating.
As we're talking about Americanisms if you listen very closely to the various accents of the USA you can pick out the historical linguistical influences.
Canada is even easier & I definitely hear the Scottish/Irish sound but that's probably due to my own ancestry.
Australia & NZ are fascinating to with the 'feesh & cheeps' and 'fush & chups' thing teara.govt.nz/en/cartoon/40131/fush-chups

Right I'll stop hogging the thread 😂

whumpthereitis · 14/03/2023 11:09

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 14/03/2023 10:52

@LadyWindermeresOnlyFans that's one of my interests accents/dialects/sounds & like you say it's fascinating.
As we're talking about Americanisms if you listen very closely to the various accents of the USA you can pick out the historical linguistical influences.
Canada is even easier & I definitely hear the Scottish/Irish sound but that's probably due to my own ancestry.
Australia & NZ are fascinating to with the 'feesh & cheeps' and 'fush & chups' thing teara.govt.nz/en/cartoon/40131/fush-chups

Right I'll stop hogging the thread 😂

I love American accents for that reason. Michigan, especially northern Michigan and the upper peninsula, you can hear the influence of South West England in the accent. There was a lot of migration, notably from Cornwall I believe, to the Great Lakes regions. Accordingly, one of the foods the state is known for is the pasty.

BlessYourHeartHoney · 14/03/2023 11:29

StalkedByASpider · 14/03/2023 05:34

*Bless your heart. It's arrogant to think thus statement is true enough to even make it.

Of course "a single person" can and do change their mind after reading something. Will it happen for majority of nobs? No. But decent people who're otherwise stupid enough to not realise something at first, can and do realise their wrong from this so-called "virtual-signaling" posts. They probably never tell you.*

And bless your heart if you think that putting up a preachy post telling people to #BeKind is going to make arseholes stop acting like arseholes. Your posts to pretty much all of the other posters on this thread make my point perfectly - so thank you.

What are you on about?

MeinKraft · 14/03/2023 11:43

'I'm also well aware of the dynamics of tribalism - university education and all that.'

CRINGE

BlessYourHeartHoney · 14/03/2023 11:48

I agree, telling people to stop doing something doesn't stop the hard of heart from carrying on (That was never in disagreement but...). They simply make preachy posts telling people to stop making preachy posts about them, while trotting out the current line as shield.

"Stop saying #BeKind"

AliceOlive · 14/03/2023 12:19

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 14/03/2023 10:00

I think a certain poster would hate me as I unconsciously pick up an accent within days regardless of where I am in the country.

Same here, especially as a child. I was sometimes questioned about why I didn’t have the local accent.
“You must not be from here.”
”Then where are your parents from?”

Once I moved away it was “Well you don’t sound like you’re from <southern US state with typically strong southern accent>

I got so tired of it that I started replying that I just watched too much tv growing up. Not true at all, but it shut people up.

AliceOlive · 14/03/2023 12:20

ie: oddly I didn’t have my parents regional accent but if I went to visit friends elsewhere, I would pick up their accents.

OhNoitsHappenedAgain · 14/03/2023 13:47

I love regional accents, especially the Irish accent 😍

MyGreenBedspread · 14/03/2023 14:12

@LifeExperience how would the plural of y’all be used? I thought it was used like people use ‘you guys’… so you might say to a group of friends do you guys want to come for dinner, but say y’all instead of you guys?

I can’t work out how the plural of that would work? Or have I totally misunderstood how it’s used?

I love idioms and local words!

MyGreenBedspread · 14/03/2023 14:23

Eyerollcentral · 13/03/2023 17:54

Nativist??? What are you on about???
As if said in my previous post if you are putting it on - whatever it is - you are usually a bit of a Pratt. That may include using any kind of slang. If you are English and using Americanisms though you are defo a bit of a Wally.

@Eyerollcentral does the prat thing apply to localisms that aren’t technically yours? For example I use the phrase ‘2 stops short of Dagenham’ because I like it but am from completely the wrong part of the country… should I stop because I am not from London?

mathanxiety · 14/03/2023 17:11

MeinKraft · 14/03/2023 11:43

'I'm also well aware of the dynamics of tribalism - university education and all that.'

CRINGE

Context is everything.

mathanxiety · 14/03/2023 17:17

@Grumpafrump
You'd better not be a trying too hard family.

That sort of betrayal gets taken very personally.

mathanxiety · 14/03/2023 18:56

Eyerollcentral · 13/03/2023 20:16

  1. But you aren’t from NI. Yet you still presumed to tell me, born and bred in Belfast, how it is. You attempted to reduce a complex problem arising out of colonialism to ‘ingrained tribalism’, which says a lot about you, ESPECIALLY as an Irish person. The partitionist mindset rides again and is writ large throughout your previous post.
  2. So you live in America but I can’t understand the ‘code’ of American speech because you see me as British? Good one.
  3. A child laughed at and told to wise up due to putting on an American accent after six weeks out of the country. They didn’t actually have an American accent, you do understand that don’t you? Knowing women who did this very thing as a child now as adults they do heartily laugh at having done it, the way most of us do about childhood silliness of one kind or another. Must be that ingrained tribalism that means am still in touch with them I guess 🤷‍♀️

Your first bullet point isn't the zinger you think it is.

It confirms my point that tribalism/ policing of social boundaries is alive and kicking and is the basis of the extreme discomfort when faced with phrases from somewhere else. It's interesting that you jumped to 'the partitionist mindset' - it couldn't be further from the truth here, but it's useful because it's
1 - a phrase expressing tribalism in a political sense, and
2 - an example of an unfortunate habit of mind - 'if I don't think you're with me, then you must be against me.'

Your second bullet point - you obv misread something I posted.

Third point - the more you keep on trying to justify the mockery and bullying of a child of ten because an accent he picked up on holiday made the adults around him uncomfortable, the deeper the hole you're digging becomes.

When a child does a childish thing that is absolutely harmless and hurts nobody, well adjusted grown adults in a healthy society just smile and get on with their lives. In a society where straying from the norm is interpreted as thumbing your nose at the rest of the group who are perfectly happy with their lane, their place, and their lot in life, or 'attention seeking', or 'trying hard', or pretending to be someone or something you're not, that sort of harmless role play is going to elicit a response that will reinforce the norm, and in doing so train the child to laugh at others step out of line and at himself for his failure to pander to the group sensibility. It's not a benign dynamic.

OhcantthInkofaname · 14/03/2023 19:32

iminvestednow · 13/03/2023 01:21

It’s an odd saying for a British person and I think the majority of posters are from the uk. We have RP for a reason. If I speak in an RP accent 99% of the population will understand what I’m saying. If I speak with regional words I’m restricting myself to only being understood by a few.

y’all is lazy speech, would you talk like that in a work meeting?

Yes, in some parts of the US they would use it in a meeting.

dreamingbohemian · 14/03/2023 23:04

whumpthereitis · 14/03/2023 11:09

I love American accents for that reason. Michigan, especially northern Michigan and the upper peninsula, you can hear the influence of South West England in the accent. There was a lot of migration, notably from Cornwall I believe, to the Great Lakes regions. Accordingly, one of the foods the state is known for is the pasty.

Wow that is really interesting! I really want to try a Michigan pasty now :)

LadyWindermeresOnlyFans · 14/03/2023 23:18

@whumpthereitis wow, that's so interesting!

Caramelsmadfuzzytail · 14/03/2023 23:33

watcherintherye · 14/03/2023 10:30

🤔bottom?

That makes me feel like a head mistress 😁

Gullie · 15/03/2023 02:33

Someone asked this upthread:
The plural for y'all is "all y'all".
(I'm from the South, lol)

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