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Disrespectful to make fun of another poster because they speak and write differently because they are from the US

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StopThinkBeforeYouJudge · 13/03/2023 00:48

Just that really.
I saw a post and within it another poster decided it was annoying the way another poster had written the word "y'all".Plenty of Southerners,not just Texans used this word daily.It was really strange how she kept on about it and even said we "y'all " sayers shouldn't even write it out here on mumsnet. Personally I'm from the state that has lots of tornadoes fyi.
But I've never seen anyone nor would I ever dare tell another poster how to spell words or how to put them on paper,EVER.
It's not a UK,US thing at all.
I just think we need to respect each other more.
I'm aware there will be some that come for me on here,but I will still continue to encourage us all to respect each other more.

OP posts:
CallieQ · 13/03/2023 01:06

Y'all need to show some respect!

StopThinkBeforeYouJudge · 13/03/2023 01:14

CallieQ · 13/03/2023 01:06

Y'all need to show some respect!

Lolololol🤣

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barmycatmum · 13/03/2023 01:16

Yeah :( that’s a bit rude.
but people who post here are from every walk of life … I’ve noticed some very cruel, rude ones, and some kind ones.
well said, and at the same time, haters gonna hate

Bashfulinseduary · 13/03/2023 01:18

Yes Ma'am! Bless their hearts they don't know no manners.
I agree, we have pedants corner for a reason

iminvestednow · 13/03/2023 01:21

It’s an odd saying for a British person and I think the majority of posters are from the uk. We have RP for a reason. If I speak in an RP accent 99% of the population will understand what I’m saying. If I speak with regional words I’m restricting myself to only being understood by a few.

y’all is lazy speech, would you talk like that in a work meeting?

StopThinkBeforeYouJudge · 13/03/2023 01:40

iminvestednow · 13/03/2023 01:21

It’s an odd saying for a British person and I think the majority of posters are from the uk. We have RP for a reason. If I speak in an RP accent 99% of the population will understand what I’m saying. If I speak with regional words I’m restricting myself to only being understood by a few.

y’all is lazy speech, would you talk like that in a work meeting?

I understand it's an odd saying for you to hear,totally get that.But it would be highly inappropriate for me to point out a word that's odd for me to hear and make a big deal about it (yes,I do know where mn originates from)although I would NEVER do something like that ya know?

As for meetings that a good question!
It would probably just depend on what kind it was.Board of an oil company,probably lots of y'alls,medical board of a hospital,probably not too many 😊

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Coyoacan · 13/03/2023 01:47

I'm quite partial to y'all as it is a plural you

LifeExperience · 13/03/2023 01:57

At a business meeting in the American south, you will hear y'all. It is a normal part of the lexicon. The plural of y'all is all y'all, and you will hear that too. Using southern colloquial phrases says nothing about the intelligence of people in the American south, but it says everything about how provincial many, many on Mumsnet are.

As a woman of the American south, to them I say with all due respect, "Bless your heart!"

StalkedByASpider · 13/03/2023 01:58

I mean, people who are rude about other posters aren’t suddenly going to think twice just because you’ve put up a post commanding them to 🤷‍♀️

If people are being rude, this type of post won’t make any difference.

If you see rude posts report them to MN. I didn’t see the comments so I don’t know if they were light-hearted comments or nasty digs. Sometimes humour doesn’t translate well in writing.

I’m very English so can’t use “y’all” without sounding like a nob. But I love the phrase and always think it sounds friendly. I just don’t think people that are rude about it will stop because you’ve told them to. Sorry.

singer15 · 13/03/2023 01:59

Lazy? How is it lazy? Because it's a contraction, like 'it's' and 'I'm'?

You don't have to like it. There's plenty of slang I don't personally care for, in both US and UK English, but it's impolite to tell someone their way of speaking is lazy.

Between regional slang/dialect and abysmal manners, which do you think is more likely to be a problem at work?

StopThinkBeforeYouJudge · 13/03/2023 02:00

singer15 · 13/03/2023 01:59

Lazy? How is it lazy? Because it's a contraction, like 'it's' and 'I'm'?

You don't have to like it. There's plenty of slang I don't personally care for, in both US and UK English, but it's impolite to tell someone their way of speaking is lazy.

Between regional slang/dialect and abysmal manners, which do you think is more likely to be a problem at work?

Exactly and thank you 😊

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StopThinkBeforeYouJudge · 13/03/2023 02:03

StalkedByASpider · 13/03/2023 01:58

I mean, people who are rude about other posters aren’t suddenly going to think twice just because you’ve put up a post commanding them to 🤷‍♀️

If people are being rude, this type of post won’t make any difference.

If you see rude posts report them to MN. I didn’t see the comments so I don’t know if they were light-hearted comments or nasty digs. Sometimes humour doesn’t translate well in writing.

I’m very English so can’t use “y’all” without sounding like a nob. But I love the phrase and always think it sounds friendly. I just don’t think people that are rude about it will stop because you’ve told them to. Sorry.

Suggesting that we be more respectful of each other isn't telling anyone what to do.
Although the post earlier was even writing the word down was ridiculous and shouldn't be done.Lol

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StopThinkBeforeYouJudge · 13/03/2023 02:04

LifeExperience · 13/03/2023 01:57

At a business meeting in the American south, you will hear y'all. It is a normal part of the lexicon. The plural of y'all is all y'all, and you will hear that too. Using southern colloquial phrases says nothing about the intelligence of people in the American south, but it says everything about how provincial many, many on Mumsnet are.

As a woman of the American south, to them I say with all due respect, "Bless your heart!"

I love to hear a genuine "Bless your heart"!❤️

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MrsTerryPratchett · 13/03/2023 02:16

I like idiom. RP is boring.

I like a good y'all too.

However, it is a UK site so as long as US posters don't expect everyone to bow to their cultural imperialism, we'll all get on fine.

Aquamarine1029 · 13/03/2023 02:21

Distain for Americans/America is rife on MN.

LemonJuiceFromConcentrate · 13/03/2023 02:22

The plural of y'all is all y'all

Love this. And generally I like seeing various regional expressions on MN.

Teapot13 · 13/03/2023 02:26

I also doubt that your average MNer really uses RP in everyday life.

mathanxiety · 13/03/2023 02:28

iminvestednow · 13/03/2023 01:21

It’s an odd saying for a British person and I think the majority of posters are from the uk. We have RP for a reason. If I speak in an RP accent 99% of the population will understand what I’m saying. If I speak with regional words I’m restricting myself to only being understood by a few.

y’all is lazy speech, would you talk like that in a work meeting?

With all respect, that's a very British concept of propriety you're bashing the OP over the head with there.

Of course you'd use y'all in a business meeting in the US. It's not an obscure regional term. Everyone understands it.

Americans tend not to be stuffy, there's really no equivalent of RP, and they tend not to find other Americans incomprehensible.

mathanxiety · 13/03/2023 02:45

LifeExperience · 13/03/2023 01:57

At a business meeting in the American south, you will hear y'all. It is a normal part of the lexicon. The plural of y'all is all y'all, and you will hear that too. Using southern colloquial phrases says nothing about the intelligence of people in the American south, but it says everything about how provincial many, many on Mumsnet are.

As a woman of the American south, to them I say with all due respect, "Bless your heart!"

THIS!

I'm not American but I live in the US and I love language. American English has a richness and a nuance to it that isn't appreciated as much as it should be by the British.

What MN needs is more, not less exposure to American English. I feel this would help get MN over the knee-jerk tetchiness and could nudge many toward a more accepting attitude when it comes to the unfamiliar.

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 13/03/2023 02:52

I love y'all as in the word.
And gets ready to run or should that be fight 😂
I love typing out the word y'know

Yes it's a disgusting habit of this post grad level educated woman here - me

However I wonder how long it will take for English words & spellings to change, when will we start to use/write:

"B4 the advent of social media at the beginning of the 21st century many words were spelt differently & it was the catalyst of the arrival of smart fones with the subsequent explosion of social media usage on said smart fones that accelerated this orthographic change.
U may think it can't b this simple an xplanation but yet this most dramatic shifts in society have occurred from small beginnings.
Take 4 example ur air-fryer. Btwn the cost of living period in the UK, the maj of Brit homes had a full sized oven that was used daily until the xplosion in energy costs...........Blah blah blah iyswim to b cont"

Plodstop · 13/03/2023 03:00

I'd say more ignorant and sheltered. Anyone who's lived abroad or travelled much wouldn't bat an eyelid.

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 13/03/2023 03:02

As in become normal language usage such as signage in a public setting e.g.
hospitals : '2 Dermatology' or '2AE'
or 'Fones Must B Switched Off In This Area'

Reading a 22nd or 23rd century copy of Hamlet "2b, or not 2B, that's the ?"

Y'know y'all I think I've gone off on a tangent here, soz.

magicthree · 13/03/2023 03:03

iminvestednow · 13/03/2023 01:21

It’s an odd saying for a British person and I think the majority of posters are from the uk. We have RP for a reason. If I speak in an RP accent 99% of the population will understand what I’m saying. If I speak with regional words I’m restricting myself to only being understood by a few.

y’all is lazy speech, would you talk like that in a work meeting?

Oh get over yourself!!! You know what y'all means, and why wouldn't someone from the US talk like that in a work meeting. Stop being so up yourself and realise that not everyone has to (or wants to) speak like you do.

StalkedByASpider · 13/03/2023 03:19

StopThinkBeforeYouJudge · 13/03/2023 02:03

Suggesting that we be more respectful of each other isn't telling anyone what to do.
Although the post earlier was even writing the word down was ridiculous and shouldn't be done.Lol

But it is though.

People who are nobs are going to be nobs. You writing a post suggesting that we "all respect each other more" isn't going to have any effect on people who are nobs.

It's very virtue-signally, tbh.

The notion that you are going to suggest that we all respect each other more is suddenly going to make people respect others and not take the piss is ridiculous. I don't believe that a single person ever in history sees these kinds of posts and thinks "you're right, I've been an utter prick to other people online but now some one has suggested that we're all more respectful.....OMG....they're right!!"

I completely understand the need to put up a post venting about others who are rude about your language and cultures. Completely understand that. As I said, some people are just bloody rude.

But that wasn't the point of your post. You said you were suggesting to everyone that we all respect each other more....as if no one has ever thought of the idea. And as if upon your word, the rude pricks are suddenly going to change their ways.

That's what I mean. It's just a bit preachy tbh.

Anyway.

As I said earlier, I think y'all is a lovely word and it's an Americanism that I would love to make its way into the British vocabulary.

3waystospeakenglish · 13/03/2023 03:19

RP? 3 ways to speak English.

www.ted.com/talks/jamila_lyiscott_3_ways_to_speak_english?language=en