Disrespectful to make fun of another poster because they speak and write differently because they are from the US

[StopThinkBeforeYouJudge]

Just that really.
I saw a post and within it another poster decided it was annoying the way another poster had written the word "y'all".Plenty of Southerners,not just Texans used this word daily.It was really strange how she kept on about it and even said we "y'all " sayers shouldn't even write it out here on mumsnet. Personally I'm from the state that has lots of tornadoes fyi.
But I've never seen anyone nor would I ever dare tell another poster how to spell words or how to put them on paper,EVER.
It's not a UK,US thing at all.
I just think we need to respect each other more.
I'm aware there will be some that come for me on here,but I will still continue to encourage us all to respect each other more.

@dreamingbohemian
Very much appreciated your explanation. I was also wondering the difference.

I'll feel better if an actual Southerner comes along to confirm I'm right!

I'm originally from youse land : )

Well I'm certainly not cringing or laughing behind your back if you say y'all.
In fact if you listen very carefully in certain parts of UK the 'you all' sound is subtly sliding into the 'y'all' sound.

Like how 'butter' is sounding 'Buh -er',
Water' sounding 'Wah-er' & 'Little' sounding 'L-il'
Thats the glottal stop for you

Busy living lives in affectations of US slang, I’d rather be thought of as an unruly school kid than a tragic poseur. The only ones looking stupid are those using y’all when having a chat in Manchester.

To be fair it's more likely 'yule' or 'yew-el' than 'you all' in Manchester.
Though I'm certainly not laughing or needing the vapours if I hear 'y'all' or 'yawl'

Busy living lives in affectations of US slang, I’d rather be thought of as an unruly school kid than a tragic poseur.

But that's the thing. To think that someone is a poseur (note the French affectation. I suppose that's acceptable to y'all) because they use US slang sounds bit like inferiority complex. They're just words and shouldn't be taken so seriously or high and mightily (in some people's case).

@iminvestednow

I think that's a very narrow minded perspective.

Around 10% of the British population don't speak English as a first language.

Of those that do, many have regional dialects and vernacular that mean some elements of English would be like a foreign language to them.

So how do you explain these people who say “I was like, on my way to like, Costa to get like, a coffee? And I saw Steve and he was all like ‘Hi! How are you?’ and I was like, is he really just chatting to me when he like must know that I know he cheated on Katie?!”?

@dreamingbohemian
I'm originally from youse land : )

Dh would use that one just because he could. We lived in the land of teenagers saying what-evaaah and Oh my God! Totally. and Hella good.

I take it you're ok with everyone in France laughing at you for using 'poseur'

Well I don't hear people using quite that many likes. But some of those have a purpose and maybe a few are verbal tics.

'he was all like' means I'm not exactly quoting him

'I was all like' means I was thinking this, not saying it out loud

'to like Costa' means it might have been some other random coffee chain but that's not important to this story

It's colloquial English, not standard English, but that doesn't mean it's nonsense

@TracyBeakerSoYeah (love your name!) Mom, as opposed to mum isn’t just spoken like that in the West Midlands, it’s written too. I have a mom and my kids say and write mom to me even though they were brought up in the SE. I’m definitely a mom not a mum.

As you probably know, it sounds nothing like the American version of the word, which sounds more like the British “ma’am”. It is shorter, rhymes with bomb.

I get mighty tired of people on mn telling me I’ve been too influenced by American TV and should say mum not mom if I’m British.

You’re assuming that it’s being done deliberately. People usually pick up affectations quite naturally if that’s what they’re surrounded by. I’m not a native English speaker, but when learning it I picked up the speech native to the area I lived in, which is different to the speech I would have picked up had I lived in Manchester. Similarly, my husband is American and that has also influenced my speech, as British English has influenced him whilst living here.

it’s an entirely normal evolution of language, influenced by an increasingly connected world.

I wouldn’t imagine the French would gaf. What a devastating come back… ‘poseur’ is an English word though. It may be derived from the French but it is an English word. It’s not a very good comparison on close examination is it?

I cannot imagine sneering at someone because they speak differently to me. It seems a very insubstantial thing to base a feeling of superiority on. And a rather unpleasant one as well.

No I’m afraid I’m not buying that. Apart from the fact that the people who routinely affect to use American slang despite being English are the kind of deeply annoying person who does it deliberately, these are not people immersed in American slang.

@Eyerollcentral o m8. Stop digging pls.

@dreamingbohemian as a reformed wannabe linguist, I am really enjoying your posts. Thank you!

inews.co.uk/opinion/international-womens-day-young-women-innovators-english-language-2190193

This is an interesting read.

Poseur is an English word.
‘sounds bit like inferiority complex’ - you think I have an inferiority complex? No, I do think I am far superior to someone who says y’all despite being from Dudley.

‘They're just words and shouldn't be taken so seriously or high and mightily’ - You cannot be a serious person and say this. Words should be taken very seriously and used precisely.

Lol! Any English or dare I say Irish person using USA slang without irony deserves the ridicule their behaviour invites.

@Eyerollcentral what about people who use Internet slang like 'lol', or forget about commas? It doesn't bother me, like, but whatevs xoxo

Poseur is not an English word. It is a French word that English people use. Despite not being from France or speaking French otherwise. So, can be seen as an affectation, especially when the English word 'poser' is right there.

I don't think French people should mock you for using it. But by your logic, they can and that's ok.

(The first use of poseur in English was the 19th century btw, this is not one of those historical Norman relics.)

Oh shoot on sight obvs. The US slangers should be made examples of to discourage others, especially the young and vulnerable in society.

@MrsCarson My DH has also picked up youse as it's so handy!

@LadyWindermeresOnlyFans Thanks : ) I have moved around a lot so really interested in regional variations and subtle meanings and all that.