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Sajid Javid states patients should pay a fee for GPs and A&E visits

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MushMonster · 21/01/2023 08:40

Just woke up this morning to this

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jan/20/sajid-javid-calls-for-patients-to-pay-for-gp-and-ae-visits

I so wish we could get early elections.
I had more than enough of this lot!
They will use the strikes to push in policies like this before we can chuck them out, following Thatcher's model to the letter.

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JenniferBooth · 21/01/2023 16:40

It has the added bonus of division for them too.

MichelleScarn · 21/01/2023 16:49

Everyonehasavoice · 21/01/2023 14:45

That’s how the system works though…it’s not a pay as you go.
Like house, life etc insurance…you may never need it but you pay anyway.
How do you know you won’t need it a lot in the future.

We all pay for future security.

We don't though, we don't all pay and that's what so many people on this thread are saying! There is increasing frustration from those in the squashed middle and those who have said they literally just earn a tiny bit over the threshold when we keep getting told 'you'll just need to pay more'...

Everyonehasavoice · 21/01/2023 18:24

MichelleScarn · 21/01/2023 16:49

We don't though, we don't all pay and that's what so many people on this thread are saying! There is increasing frustration from those in the squashed middle and those who have said they literally just earn a tiny bit over the threshold when we keep getting told 'you'll just need to pay more'...

Absolutely. You are quite right.
But how can disabled, non earners etc etc be made to pay.

Unless they have to pay as you go, whilst the rest of us who work pay every month through earnings.

If the system went pay as you go it would still be the same non earners who get it for free whilst middle England are squeezed twice…..again.

JenniferBooth · 21/01/2023 18:28

Well @Everyonehasavoice the last time i heard it disability wasnt a choice.

This has ALREADY become a stick to beat the poor and the disabled with and its not even policy .......yet.

Everyonehasavoice · 21/01/2023 18:35

JenniferBooth · 21/01/2023 18:28

Well @Everyonehasavoice the last time i heard it disability wasnt a choice.

This has ALREADY become a stick to beat the poor and the disabled with and its not even policy .......yet.

I was pointing out you can’t make people who have nothing pay from nothing….

Think you missed the point and tone there.

But also acknowledging that’s it’s always middle England that gets stretched when taxes, etc rise.

MushMonster · 21/01/2023 18:50

"Middle" earners have been struck with so much extra to pay that there is no room to pay much else. The government needs to acknowledge this. Our wage may be in the middle, but what we can afford is no longer in that middle.
The raise in NI was not met with a mahoosive oposition, was it? At least, I did not complaint. I would rather pay a bit more tax, but I want the GPs to be properly part of the NHS, and flipping have a good appointment system.
I think paying for A&E is barbaric.. so, are you meant to provide your bank card when you are taken in after a road accident?
Because I do know a student in USA who broke an ankle after being pushed by a car off the curve. They had to pay, there and then, $200 before getting inside the ambulance (they had a visiting visa for 3 months) I was, and still am, appalled by this.
Anyway, I do think this lot will do nothing, even if we all donate a million pounds each to the NHS.
I do think other parties will, at least, try to sort the issues and address them. We need someone moved by the duty to better people's life, not by their personal bank accounts.

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Myotherpetisamouse · 21/01/2023 23:08

renonovice · 21/01/2023 15:04

@Myotherpetisamouse yep I did but as I said late 90s & it was in a posh part of London. When I left uni in the early 00s starting salaries & manager salaries were very similar to now.

I remember someone not believing me when I said my parents paid 40k for their house in the mid 80s & it's now worth close to 2m, because there house cost a lot more & is worth less 🤷🏻‍♀️

Your location explains it. I was working in a rough part of Scotland!

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