Sorry another Meghan thread following Netflix

[Skiingonagreen]

Firstly three episodes in.... My heart is breaking for her. She's so beautiful, energetic, charismatic but wants a voice which she is 100 percent entitled to.
I comparing her childhood to Katie's here.. I believe Kate was raised with the intention to marry a very wealthy man & to be a supporting role. From the word go I get the impression Carol & Michael had big aspirations for their three kids.
However I think Megan was raised to be an activist & leader, she was the leading lady in her life & wanted to quite rightly be Harry's equal.... She wasn't raised to be in a supporting role.. I feel she & they have been deeply failed.

I watched the dochmentary and loved meghan, Harry and her mum - I think they are all lovely.

I also think Kate seems lovely and is so good at being guarded and not giving the tabloid press anything to bash her about.

Let's build women up instead of trying to knock them all the time.

I think that Katie's background made it much easier for her to integrate. I remember the first pics of Kate in the press she must have been 18 or 19. She was skiing in Klosters, Switzerland with Wills & Charles. The photos & videos had her skiing (very elegantly) & she was described as an accomplished skiier who had been skiing since she very young. The only upper class pursuit she hasn't partaken in was shooting. I was delighted to read this as I thought it was against her principles. A few weeks later pics emerged of Kate, Carol & Michael at a shooting weekend in Balmoral with Charles.
Meghan's formative years were completely different as we see in Netflix.

Harry being a prince is part of his attraction though?
Same with Kate... woud Will have been so attractive had he not been a prince .
Part of my DH attraction to me is his background etc.

My stand out is that mm is "comfortable and at ease" she is a natural speaker, she was already doing charity stuff off her own back and it's what she's good at.

I.can.aee why she's ruffled feathers when others struggle a huge amount in this area.

She's a self starter and a do er and she's elevated Harry more than say....a benedean educated partner would have done.

Because she knows what she's doing.

I think Doria is fabulous, she's come accross so well & I do believe her to be completely genuine. I like the way Meghan is so eloquent but again that comes from being an actress & she's also very intelligent.
I don't think she would have looked twice at Harry if he wasn't a prince.

It was reported that Wills also had numerous love interests other than Kate. However these women (very aristocratic in their own right) wanted no ties to the Royal family.

For me the ultimate couple was Harry & Chelsea. They was so young, beautiful & in love. I always hoped they would get back together. Chelsea was also very smart & well educated. She made a good choice.

You make Kate's parents sound like something from Bridgerton OP. They raised her to marry well and be in a supporting role. Probably insisted on giving her a chaperone and gave a dance card to take to nightclubs with her as well.

There is a forum for this sort of sickly sweet fandom. Please ask for your thread to be moved to the royal family forum Op.🙈🙉🙊

I have zero respect for Kate. She was raised and trained to catch a prince and pop out a few kids - no more, no less. Always perfectly groomed and trotted out for whatever occasion. Never seen her state an original thought, or her use her voice for anything that doesn't further her own prospects. She's not worked a day in her life. I've never seen anything of her displaying hard work, integrity, courage, standing up for her convictions or anything other than having babies and waving while we are supposed to be distracted by her pretty dresses and nice hair. She is not a face of a progressive and modern royal family, she's the prim and proper face of someone who is very happy with the status quo, thanks.

I didn't really have any opinion on Meghan before but as a direct comparison between the two, Meghan comes across as far more relatable, warm, independent, and willing to use her voice for things she believes in.

"marrying well" is such an antiquated nonsense.

Catching a rich man to live off for the rest of your life rather than achieving things in your own merit.

Don't forget all the credible death threats.

@Littlepuddytat totally agree

I’ve got a teenage daughter. Like fuck can I shape her into what jeans to wear let alone her marriage potential.

Nothing against Kate, she does her role perfectly. I just feel the Middleton's have known the right markers from the start & cleverly used education for social mobility.

Mum was imprisoned for fraud and tried to blame dad because he was the nominal owner of the company. Mum left child to be brought up by dad from the age of 5 to her teen years. Dad admits giving daughter everything she wanted and spoilt her. Said daughter then turns her back on her father and won't even take his calls. Mum admits daughter was 'suicidal' but strangely enough did nothing about it? 🤔. Lovely family.

Kate AND Meghan went to super super expensive private schools. Meghan grew up very privileged in LA and her dad worked with actors. It was her dream to be famous since she was a young girl. Meghan asked her friend to introduce her to Prince Harry. BOTH women are social climbers.

And that's bad why? Kate is a nice upper middle class girl who moves in nice upper middle class circles. She's well educated and sporty. She was never going to marry a delivery driver.

"marrying well" is such an antiquated nonsense.

Catching a rich man to live off for the rest of your life rather than achieving things in your own merit.

... Catching a rich man is exactly what Meghan has done and I'd lay odds it was always her goal. And let's stop with all the activist nonsense - the UN have numerous young, beautiful "ambassadors" who can deliver a good speech, but very few of them are still around once their careers start to wane.

Meghan was privately educated and her father was an award winning Hollywood lighting director, despite Meghans claims that she grew up in poverty

It was always well known that the Middleton's were very aspirational for their children

by whom?
and on what evidence?

they wanted the very best for their children. That is absolutely normal. What parent doesn’t want the best for their kids?

It isn’t social climbing to marry a man who is also from a private school and went to an exclusive University. Meghan was from an ordinary background. Her education was not on the same level , nor was she moving in the sort of social circles Kate was. I don’t think Kate was interested in social status. She loves William and still does.

I was taken aback too, it made him sound really sexist and like a 15 year old displaying his prize. I'm surprised these things were kept in, H & M don't seem too self aware, believing the producers are supporting them but actually they have left things in that really do show them in a bad light. I feel a bit sorry for them as their DC will now never have privacy either.

I think Megan was raised to be an activist & leader

do tell more

apart from Daddy filming her part of a whole class exercise and using his connections to get it screened.

im not aware of any causes she has championed consistently throughout her adult years.

@Skiingonagreen every parent is aspirational for their children.

@trashypanda I remember reading years ago in the press that Kate & Pippa were called the wisteria sisters for their ability to social climb. Pippa was apparently very choosy about her she became mates with & had a circle of aristocratic friends at Edinburgh University. Kates maternal grandmother was supposed to have had ideas above her station & neighbours used call her grandmother the dutchess.

cleverly used education for social mobility

Or - they supported their children to help them achieve their full potential.

@StarsLeft

Well there has been plenty of room for rabid frothing angry people who utterly despise her so I hope there is a teeny bit of room for a positive threads?
Especially after the Clarkson pieces?