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Hand hold -waiting for an ambulance

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stillvicarinatutu · 27/11/2022 02:52

I can't breathe and my chest is making noises like a deflating balloon 🎈

Rang 111 and didn't expect to be told there's an ambulance coming

I can't get hold of my dd or ds or ex hubby. I'm alone and I do y want to go to hospital as I e 2 dogs here.

I'm meant to be at a funeral Monday. (Hopefully not my own )

I fucking hate hospitals .

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HeatwaveToNightshade · 27/11/2022 08:51

I hope you're ok @stillvicarinatutuFlowersFlowers

While the vast majority of the posts on here are full of good wishes, I'm shocked and utterly disgusted at the posters who think it's ok to stick the boot in and make assumptions about the seriousness or otherwise of the OP's illness. The comments about her being able to use her phone are just ignorant and cruel. People can still manage to do things with other parts of their body even while one vital part of their body fails, even in fact when they are close to death (not saying OP is of course). I have personal experience of this in my own family, where a close relative was very, very seriously ill but still physically and mentally functioning.

medicatedgift · 27/11/2022 08:51

Mumsnet won't want to take on verifying qualifications as to at makes liability murky.

In essence. No. Everyone has agency. It's a chat forum. No more.

WhatTheHellIsAQuasar · 27/11/2022 08:52

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I don’t think anyone is missing the point of your posts we just think they’re nasty, unnecessary, and make you look a bit dim since the paramedics gave vicar treatment and wanted to take her to a&e. Clearly she is pretty unwell. So for you to keep posting that she can’t be that ill because she’s posting on MN like it’s some kind of gotcha - well I don’t really know what your agenda is here.

bloodyplanes · 27/11/2022 08:54

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👏👏👏

tulips27 · 27/11/2022 08:54

I'm an ICU nurse and I think the OP was quite right in all the actions she took.

Hibye23289 · 27/11/2022 08:54

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tulips27 · 27/11/2022 08:55

Except I'm not. But anyone can post any old bollocks on here, can't they?

HolidaysAreComin · 27/11/2022 08:55

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Frequency · 27/11/2022 08:56

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So what do you think people with chronic COPD on oxygen do when they fancy a cuppa or want to text a mate?

WhatTheHellIsAQuasar · 27/11/2022 08:56

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it Wasn’t that excruciating I’m sure

LT2 · 27/11/2022 08:58

@Hibye23289 my dad could still post on social media when he was in his final few days of terminal cancer.. you can't compare illnesses like that. Just because you didn't post on here doesn't mean someone else with toothache, or whatever else, won't. I was cleaning litter trays when I was in labour, further along in labour than I realised (barely made it to the hospital in time).. point is people have completely different pain thresholds and handle illnesses and pains all completely differently!!

LisaLovedUp · 27/11/2022 08:58

tulips27 · 27/11/2022 08:44

On the basis of this thread and others I think Mumsnet should implement a few new rules in order to safeguard posters:

  • No posts which discourage users from seeking professional medical advice/calling an ambulance/going to hospital to be allowed under any circumstances.
  • No posts which encourage postponing or the delaying of the medical attention sought, i.e. no saying "go to hospital rather than call an ambulance", or "call 111 rather than go to A&E" to be allowed under any circumstances.
  • No diagnosis-making to be allowed, only offering of opinions as to possibilities.
  • No claiming of medical qualifications unless verified via documentary evidence by Mumsnet themselves, as it offers weight to posts which may be false or undeserved.

What does everyone think? Anything to add?

@tulips27 MN already has a disclaimer on the medical/ health forums as well as many other forums on the site.

It's a bit late for the OP now, but in my village we have a neighbourhood support group.
People will run others to appts and I bet someone would dog-sit if needed.

Maybe we all need to look out/reach out to our neighbours or set up some kind of street- care wherever we live (urban or rural) so that anyone living alone is not stuck. (And yes, middle of the night calls are not practical, but any other time of day.)

tulips27 · 27/11/2022 08:59

@Frequency They don't think anything because clearly they're not medical professionals and they're just offering up their unsubstantiated, unqualified nonsense in an attempt to attack someone who has been unwell.

RampantIvy · 27/11/2022 09:00

I hope the mods come along soon and delete the unhelpful and unsupportable posts.

I imagine someone struggling to breathe would find it a jolly sight easier to post a message on a device than to talk. I also think unless you are semi comatose it is still possible to post messages.

tulips27 · 27/11/2022 09:01

@LisaLovedUp From a legal point of view a disclaimer will mean nothing if someone suffers personal injury as a result of what has been posted here.

Fleurdaisy · 27/11/2022 09:01

Is there a neighbour who’ll let dogs out in the garden and feed and water them?

If you want to lie down, try lying in your front as that might help your breathing, but staying propped up is probably best.

GoonerGirl5231 · 27/11/2022 09:01

Jesus, MN can be a horrible viper's nest sometimes! Sorry you're getting a hard time, OP. It sounds like your chest infection might have worsened into pneumonia now, which can be really serious if you don't get it treated with antibiotics. I recently had it really badly and my chest was whistling and cracking too. Took me three weeks to recover properly.

I could still text people though! I was struggling to breathe and feeling wiped out, my hands weren't paralysed. 🙄

Namaste6 · 27/11/2022 09:03

@stillvicarinatutu Morning - hope you feel a little better when you wake. Please do try to get family involved today - perhaps also to look after the dogs. It sounds like you should be resting completely to help your saturation levels. You're going to need looking after. Do not hesitate for one second to either call 999 or head to A&E again today. Don't hesitate. X

Anewuser · 27/11/2022 09:03

@stillvicarinatutu you absolutely did the right thing. You called the appropriate place for medical help.

We call 111 last Sunday for our adult son as he had a high respiratory rate. They sent out a GP who immediately called an ambulance.

Like you, he was negative to covid on an LFT.

He was taken into resus and swab showed Influenza A, even though he’s had the flu jab. Pneumonia and Sepsis.

It progressed so rapidly.

As you know, you need antibiotics quickly. Please don’t delay until GP Monday.

Daffodilsandtuplips · 27/11/2022 09:04

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Errrm. My dh was able to walk, dress himself and make a cuppa while he was having a stroke. I rang 999 when I realised he couldn’t speak. Cat 1 and fast response reaction, plus a paramedic ambulance in attendance. By the time they arrived he’d got some speech back. He looked perfectly well but was in trouble Blue lighted to A&E.
I had a slight cough, with a fever, I couldn’t stand but could talk and text…DH rang the doctor, he said to ring 999, I thought it was a bit dramatic for a bit of a cough but Doctor knew best… in fact I had bilateral viral pneumonia

LisaLovedUp · 27/11/2022 09:06

tulips27 · 27/11/2022 09:01

@LisaLovedUp From a legal point of view a disclaimer will mean nothing if someone suffers personal injury as a result of what has been posted here.

Are you some kind of legal expert?

You're wrong, anyway. read all the T&Cs that you agreed to when signing up.

It's a chat forum. Nothing else. Taking part is not mandatory.

Cantseethewindows · 27/11/2022 09:06

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Except: OP did accept medical help from the ambulance crew. She just didn't want to go to hospital, because she's worried about her dogs. She hasn't ruled out getting help tomorrow. She's perfectly entitled to seek medical help by calling 111, accepting help from the ambulance crew, and declining hospital care. It doesn't mean she's not unwell.

Sorry to hear about your son. It sounds similar to OP, who couldn't speak properly due to breathlessness. Whether or not an adult with symptoms like those of your son could type up messages is speculation. However, I'd say that you're in big trouble if your breathlessness is affecting your ability to formulate sentences, as that would strike me as a sign of lack of oxygen. Disclaimer: I'm not medically trained but neither are you

WhistlingInWhistler · 27/11/2022 09:07

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Well thank you for sharing your experience of toothache, I'm sure that was borne in mind when the clinician Vicar spoke to assessed her and decided to send her an ambulance.

SkylightSkylight · 27/11/2022 09:09

@stillvicarinatutu

how are you doing??

im a constant name changer, but I've 'known' you since the beginning of time!

I'm worried about you.

I'm sorry you had to read some of these posts, it's a changed place!

I know you'd want to be at a colleagues funeral, but they wouldn't want you getting more unwell going!! Sadly you can't bring them back, but you could make yourself very I'll.

Let me know you've been able to contact someone for the dogs & that you're going in to be checked out.

some people here should be ashamed of themselves.

tulips27 · 27/11/2022 09:10

Worst hand hold ever! 🙄

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