Films you see differently as an adult...

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I presume this has been done before but fuck it, it's Saturday night and I'm bored. So I'll start...

Mrs Doubtfire. As a child I saw Miranda as a boring, stuck up cow. As an adult I see her as a successful, independent woman exasperated with her man child husband who gives me The Ultimate Ick. And then some. I'm gobsmacked she ever married him. Stuart was a capable, equal partner not the villain I once thought him to be. Anyone else?

All the actors in Grease were ancient. Was ONJ about 30?

In fact, that wasn't uncommon

Matthew B was 24 when he made FB Day Off

I think you can tell by my username that I love Muriels wedding. I loved that there was.a film where the lead looked like me. I was relentlessly bullied myself and had a group of "friends" who were nothing more than backstabbing bitches. I just wanted to fit in and be treated like any normal girl. They would do stuff like persuading me to wear bad outfits on purpose and tell me a place to meet them and go past in a taxi waving at me. So in that respect many scenes rang true for me.
I see it as a drama with some funny bits. Definitely not a hilarious laugh out loud comedy.

Agree regarding Jim Carrey. He's repulsive.

I've just finished watching this. I am in shock 😲

I watched The Devil Wears Prada last night - it came out in 2006 when I was 18. Two things really jumped out: firstly, Andrea’s boyfriend Nate is the real villain of the story, and secondly Andrea being referred to as the fat girl probably goes some way to explaining all the disordered eating of my 20s. (Heat Magazine, America’s Next Top Model and just about every other popular media of the time also has a part to play!)

Pretty woman the musical is currently on in the west end

I wonder if they changed the story or
Send it up?

Some excellent points there Firecrotch. I always wondered why Lisa sat there and let Johnny take the rap for stealing Mo Pressmans wallet as she saw his wife Vivian (the woman who accused him) having sex with Robbie.

I saw it ( got a cheap ticket). They didn't change the story. It was terrible. Not just the story but also most of the acting and singing. I saw it with friends who thought it was cute and romantic! Felt like Germaine Greer sitting there pointing out everything I hated about it.

Agree. And it stuck surprisingly close to the book.

The Princess Diaries. Mia's friend Lily is horrible. She bullies Mia until she finds out who she really is.

We’d get on. I have a t-shirt that bears the legend ‘feminist killjoy.’

she saw his wife Vivian (the woman who accused him) having sex with Robbie.

Wait, that was Vivian?

If I watch The Breakfast Club these days, I always have quite a lot of sympathy for the poor old teacher.

I read a theory once that Ferris isn’t actually real, the whole movie is all just Cameron having a dream.

@ExhaustedFlamingo agree, sometimes it's just not that deep!

Are you pro-life or something? Women have always had to have abortions and, prior to legalisation, unfortunately they had to have back street abortions, which made them super vulnerable to charlatans.

The point here is that Baby isn’t a random silly teen, her father totally trusts her as she’s always been 100% reliable, so he doesn’t question she’s telling the truth.

Later she says, ”I’m sorry I lied. But you lied to me too. You said everyone was alike and deserved a break, but you just meant people who were like you”.

A lot of shows and movies from 2000ish are full of body shaming. The body type that was in style seems to have been long legs, tiny bum, washboard abs and fake boobs. Any woman who didn’t fit into that would be the butt of constant jokes about being flat chested/fat/short.

He's looking under the table trying to get between her legs whilst she desperately tries to keep her knees together. She's upset about it. You can't think that that's ok?

I think you can tell by my username that I love Muriels wedding. I loved that there was.a film where the lead looked like me. I was relentlessly bullied myself and had a group of "friends" who were nothing more than backstabbing bitches. I just wanted to fit in and be treated like any normal girl. They would do stuff like persuading me to wear bad outfits on purpose and tell me a place to meet them and go past in a taxi waving at me. So in that respect many scenes rang true for me.
I see it as a drama with some funny bits. Definitely not a hilarious laugh out loud comedy

But Muriel's wedding wasn't poking fun at Muriel really, it was more poking fun and satirizing the clique and bullies who bullied her. One critic said ''The film's good heart keeps it from ever making fun of Muriel....is merciless in its portrait of provincial society, and yet has a huge affection for its misfit survivors''

The writers were showing how vain,shallow and utterly false the clique was and the perfidious nature of their friendship in 'friendship' groups like this.

They had no loyalty to each other and were so desperate to put on a public display of perfection that they made themselves look stupid. Tanya, the lead of the clique had her best friend shag her husband on her wedding day. The joke is very much on her and the group of bitches if you watch the film. The fact that Muriel walked away from this and laughed at Tanya's group in their faces in the final scene shows how ridiculous the group were.

I agree that the film was marketed as some silly rom com and was pretty deep and dramatic in places but there were definitely some very laugh out loud moments in the film. The writers did well to keep a balance.

I always wondered why Lisa sat there and let Johnny take the rap for stealing Mo Pressmans wallet as she saw his wife Vivian (the woman who accused him) having sex with Robbie

Because she never made any connection to it. Johnny could have slept with Mo's wife and still stole the wallet.

Someone mentioned Dead Poets Society. What I see more now I'm older in that film is that it's not just the teacher's story. Todd's story is quite significant too. he goes from not saying boo to a goose, hating to speak up in public, probably being quite compliant to his family too (he needs a lot of persuading to get rid of that horrible stationery gift), to leading the show of solidarity at the end. Something made that transformation, and it might have had as much to do with his friend who died as with the teacher, but I find it quite moving and uplifting.

Muriel’s Wedding has the best portrayal of toxic female relationships next to Mean Girls and The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie. When it came out, the way that Muriel’s so-called friends treat her was not universally recognised as bullying. When I was growing up, if your classmates treated you like that it was dismissed as them being ‘silly and immature’ and because there was no overt physical violence, you were expected to rise above it, not let them get to you, ignore them and they’d go away, etc. I developed major self-esteem problems trying to do this.

So when Muriel’s Wedding came out I was inwardly applauding the satire of her ghastly clique.

Muriel’s Wedding has the best portrayal of toxic female relationships next to Mean Girls and The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie

As a man myself can I add that the behaviour of the clique is not exclusive to female groups and this is a myth. I've seen and experienced identical behaviour going on in male heterosexual groups/cliques-boys being excluded for being different, bitching, backstabbing....

I say the word hetrosexual because somebody will come on and tell me it's only gay men who'd act like this but that is a myth. Males and females are much more similar than we think.

Not a movie but Sex and the City. Loved it when I saw it first time around at school.

Watched it all again and Carrie is God awful. Selfish, insecure, treated her friends (and Aidan) like shit. Tore Charlotte apart for not offering her money to buy her apartment?! And in the first movie Charlotte won't eat or drink anything because they are in Mexico and doesn't want to get ill?!

Just don't get me started on 'And just like that...'.

I think there's more than one thing going on here.
One is that when we revisit a movie from years ago, our life experience has changed and so too has our perspective - from identifying with the teen to the mother, etc.
The other is that some people seem to think any plot line in a film that shows people being morally flawed or doing something wrong means the film should be cancelled, wouldn't be made these days etc. We need a bit of nuance here! A sad film can have some hilarious moments, doesn't mean we are laughing at the character.
I know times have moved on but I'm not convinced that teens now are growing up in a better world than I did in the 80s. We had less of an acknowledgement around issues of consent, but we didn't have date rape drugs and internet porn and every mistake you made videoed and put on Snapchat.

The only one who was of an age that matched the characters was the woman who played Marty, all the others were much older. One of the t birds looked about 50 which always threw me! 😆

And yes pp are right in response to my comment on frozen, that it's the point of the film but I still can't watch it!