Films you see differently as an adult...

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I presume this has been done before but fuck it, it's Saturday night and I'm bored. So I'll start...

Mrs Doubtfire. As a child I saw Miranda as a boring, stuck up cow. As an adult I see her as a successful, independent woman exasperated with her man child husband who gives me The Ultimate Ick. And then some. I'm gobsmacked she ever married him. Stuart was a capable, equal partner not the villain I once thought him to be. Anyone else?

Brief Encounter. Could never understand why she didn't go off to Africa with the doctor but stayed with her dull husband & children. These days her decision to stay warms me so much. Tough decision but the right one.

This had me distraught when I saw frozen. I think I remember reading a lot of adults felt the same, it paralled my family dynamic so closely.

Agree with others about Rizzos song in Greece. It's not about women not being able to withdraw consent, it's about a girl's defiance in the face of being slut-shamed, her total self reliance, bravery and FU attitude, her rebellion against the sexist social expectations of the day.

Rizzo is very unkind to Sandy at the start, but she was always my favourite character and I think its hinted that there are reasons for her being the way she is. When Sandy shows her kindness and support, she genuinely softens and appreciates it. She holds her own against all the boys and their embodiment of rape culture.

Not a movie but ..spongebob
I used to think squidward was such a drag and now as an adult
i feel so sorry for him
Spongebob is the neighbor from hell, he has no boundaries, heputts squidwards life in danger and tries to make squidward go insane and yet squidward still has a soft spot for spongebob underneath it all

And anything by Hayao Miyazaki creator of ponyo, his movies are amazing but also have undercover themes that are disturbing and are hard to prove because he hides them good

I still love FB Day Off. “Chicka chicka, oh yeah”

I’ve always seen it as he knows what an absolute twat he is.

And I would have killed to look like Mia Sara in her fringed leather jacket and boots!

I still love most of the films listed in this thread. They’re a nostalgic reminder of me growing up, etc. Yes, things have rightly moved on since some of them, but I can’t get worked up by it and I’d definitely watch them again.

Think the John Cusack film was Say Anything but it was written/directed by Cameron Crowe.

If you ever get the chance then I suggest you watch The Arbor. It goes much deeper into Andrea's life and details the life her kids faced after her death. Be warned. It is heartbreaking and quite graphic. www.amazon.co.uk/Arbor-Neil-Dudgeon/dp/B00ET1RO9G

This is a really interesting thread. I didn't actually realise until now, that Grease and Pretty Woman had the main female characters' 'salvation' in their stories the absolute reverse of each other in the films. Innocent to whore and vice versa. The men in both movies are lecherous losers and not worth commenting on btw.

Johnny is treated like a second class citizen in DD. Baby even hears it for herself when she sees Max (the owner) tell his waiters (handpicked from Yale and Harvard so clearly from privileged and wealthy backgrounds) that he expects them to romance the daughters. All the daughters. Even the dogs.
But the entertainment staff? Who consist of people of colour and poorly educated working class hip thrusters? Get in the fucking bin. 'Specially the two lead instructors who are idolised by their colleagues. They have to keep their hands off. Which to be honest they should. But then so should the waiters.

Also who the hell hands over $250 in 1963 to a teen girl without first checking that it's not being used for illegal activity? Doctors are supposed to be smart. "It's not illegal is it?!" "Errr... no daddy!" Say no more love. I will drop you a fat wedge before dinner. Tool.

On the other hand, when I was about 12 I watched Hope and Glory and thought it was meh. Watched it again the other day - brilliant and very funny.

Without wanting to be a giant fun sponge, I think most of these films were of their time, and it's not just about the fact that we're now viewing them with adult eyes, but also that society has changed so very much in such a relatively short period of time.

I think in general it's problematic when humour/entertainment of the past is judged against today's standards. I really dislike it when I see comedians/actors being called out and a clamour for them to apologise and be cancelled. Unless it was really nasty stuff which wasn't acceptable back then either, I think we should all just accept that the world back then was so very different. There are people who genuinely thought they were acting in a decent way back in the day, but if they did the same today, there would be outrage.

My politics are fairly left wing but I can recognise that it's not always possible to see that your cultural norms are unhealthy when you're surrounded by it. And especially before the introduction of the internet which made it so much easier to access diverse views.

don’t let them in, don’t let them see, be the good girl you always have to be. Conceal, don’t feel, don’t let it show, make one wrong move and everyone will now.’

Well I took this literally as in hide your emotions & powers so you don't hurt people. But she's actually coming out? 🤔

Am I missing something about the under the table scene in the Breakfast Club? Isn’t he just looking?

I mean, I took it literally too - but I'm autistic so that's not a huge surprise 😂

After she accidentally hurt Anna when they were little and her parents gave her gloves so she wouldn't accidentally ice anyone, I thought it was just about that.

I can see it could be viewed as a metaphor for lots of other things, such as not being honest about sexuality, but I'm not convinced. The simplest and most obvious explanation seems to fit.

I remember when I was at school, during my A-levels the teacher was insistent that the Red Room in Jane Eyre was to symbolise the womb. I just didn't see that at all. I do think as humans we tend to dig around for more meanings, intent on finding something deeper when sometimes it literally is just about the obvious!

He didn't perform the the abortion. He sorted her out after the backstreet abortion.

No he doesn't.

Drop dead Fred as a child an hilarious imaginary friend. As an adult I see an abused child who had serious mental health problems that carried on into adulthood

As an adult he gives me the absolute creeps!

This had me distraught when I saw frozen. I think I remember reading a lot of adults felt the same, it paralled my family dynamic so closely.

Isn’t this the point of the film though? Elsa has been taught by her parents to “conceal, don’t feel” and has to unlearn that harmful lesson, which starts with “Let It Go” ( with its torrents of ice and snow- repressed emotion breaking out) and finishes with a world where things are snowy but harmonious at the end of the film, as she has learned to accept her emotions and so is no longer over-powered by them.

Disney films are full of abusive parents. What’s different about Frozen is that the parents” abuse isn’t deliberate- they mean well but get it completely wrong. A much more realistic thing for watching parents to worry about. I thought it was one of the best things about the film.

@RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie isn't that the definition of a stepbrother? I didn't say half brother!

Came on to say this. Jesus it's bad!!!!! Yet I liked it when I was young.

Glad it’s not just me!
I’ve only watched Muriel’s wedding once because it made me so sad, I still don’t understand why anyone thinks it’s funny. And if they do I judge them.

Have to be honest, an ex pulled that boombox move on me once to try to make up after an argument so I still have a soft spot for the movie...

I think Elsa is essentially an abused child - how long have her parents had some chained iron mittens in the dungeons just in case? - and children absolutely see that and relate to it. The asymmetry of power in every relationship as a child is mahoosive, so children recognise it everywhere. And that is why Elsa was such a massively big deal and such a success.

I agree with this.

God her life is grim and so sad… draws parallels with some people I used to know…