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Ukraine Invasion: Part 35

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MagicFox · 12/11/2022 16:40

We're still here, on 35 πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

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TheABC · 25/11/2022 09:25

I can't see how they can recruit a million more men immediately within Russia without upsetting the major cities. They were pulling people out of the hotels and subway for this last round.

And then there's the small matter of training and equipping them - the regions are supposed to be responsible for doing so and they are already running out of cash (barter exchange in lieu of currency for wages, for example.)

MMBaranova · 25/11/2022 09:45

Composite of images posted this month by Girkin/Strelkov's wife of crowdfunded supplies she has sent to his unit. On the left are haemostatic wound dressings and two quad copters in packs.

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MMBaranova · 25/11/2022 09:50

Summary of Girkin/Strelkov judgement, which includes:

'...on 17 July 2014 in Ukraine (in Donetsk oblast), together and in association with others, as functional perpetrator, intentionally and with premeditation, took the lives of the occupants (of whom the 298 names are set out in the annex to the indictment) of an aeroplane (namely flight MH17), by using a Buk TELAR to fire a Buk missile at that aeroplane (near Pervomaiskyi), which caused the aeroplane to crash and said occupants to die.'

Much more on the trial and judgement here:

www.courtmh17.com/

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ScrollingLeaves · 25/11/2022 10:24

MissConductUS Β· Yesterday 14:56
Re, this excerpt from the Mark T. Kimmitt article you posted yesterday afternoon MissConduct,

On the battlefield, the West should beef up its support for Ukraine’s deep-fires campaign against supply depots, logistical routes, command centers and second-echelon support units well beyond Russian frontlines. This will obstruct Russia’s attempt to regenerate its own combat power even with the arrival of the newly mobilized troops and Iranian drones.

Am I right in thinking the Ukrainian β€˜deep-fires campaign he suggests against Russian β€œsupply depots, logistical routes, command centres and second echelon support units”, would be limited to only those within Ukraine ? In which case the majority of these targets would be out of bounds, over the border in Russia, in the Black Sea, and in Belarus?

MissConductUS · 25/11/2022 10:59

In which case the majority of these targets would be out of bounds, over the border in Russia, in the Black Sea, and in Belarus?

Some may be, it depends on how far the front is from the border. Targets like ammo dumps, command posts and reserve units need to be close to the front to function. Targets in the Black Sea wouldn't be considered in Russian territory. Belarus is a gray area. I think that for the next few months there will be plenty of good targets in occupied areas of Ukraine.

ScrollingLeaves · 25/11/2022 11:26

Thanks for clarifying, MissConduct.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 25/11/2022 11:31

The ISW seem to be having a holiday today

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⚑️Energoatom: Ukrainian nuclear power plants began relaunching after Russia's Nov. 23 mass missile strikes.

⚑️Largest steel company suspends operation (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/largest-steel-company-suspends-operation-in-ukraine-due-to-power-outages) in Ukraine due to power outages.
"The available amount of electricity is insufficient to support production even at 20% capacity level," the company said.

⚑️ Mayor: Boris Johnson becomes honorary Kyiv citizen.

⚑️ DTEK: Electricity for Kyiv residents to be reduced to 2-3 hours daily until power fully restored.

⚑️7 killed, 21 injured following Russian attacks on liberated Kherson.

⚑️Forbes estimates Russia has spent $82 billion on war with Ukraine since Feb. 24.
During nine months of its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Russia has spent $82 billion on war, which is a quarter of its annual budget, according to Forbes. They calculated that Russia used 10,000 to 50,000 shells per day in the war, and the average price of a Soviet-caliber shell is about $1,000. It brings Russia's spending to more than $5.5 billion on artillery supplies alone.

⚑️⚑️⚑️The Lower House of the Dutch Parliament recognized Russia as a state sponsor of terrorism - NOS.

About what recognising Russia as a state sponsor of terrorism brings: telegra.ph/What-will-the-recognition-of-Russia-as-a-state-sponsor-of-terrorism-give-Ukraine-11-24

‼️Military-political leadership of the Russian Federation tells its military that there should be 5 million of them to win the war - General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Deputy Chief of the General Staff Hromov noted that, according to some officers of the Russian Armed Forces, this may mean the next wave of mobilization and the introduction of martial law in the country in the near future.

Croatia will be helping train Ukrainian soldiers.

EU countries agreed to exclude Russian gas from joint procurement contracts, - the press service of the European Commission.

Ukraine will receive a $4.5 billion grant from the United States in the framework of World Bank financing - the relevant agreement has been signed.

In Crimea, Iranian advisers were killed who taught the Russians to pilot Shahed-136 kamikaze drones β€” Danilov

British Foreign Secretary James Cleverly arrived in Kyiv for the first time on Thursday to meet with the Ukrainian leadership and pledged support for as long as it takes to defeat Russia.

Riga City Council in partnership with the Latvian charitable foundation Ziedot LV will hand over 84 power generators and 100 heat guns to Kyiv, - Ambassador of Ukraine to Latvia.

France sends Ukraine 100 generators, - French Foreign Minister.

Norway handed over additional M109 self-propelled artillery systems, spare parts and winter clothing for the military to Ukraine.
What exactly was included in the new aid package:
β–ͺ️1 M109A3GN;
β–ͺ️20,000 spare parts for the M109A3GN;
β–ͺ️55,000 pieces of winter clothing;
β–ͺ️55,000 bandages and individual packages;
β–ͺ️30,000 dry rations, etc.

More than 15,000 people have gone missing during the war in Ukraine, Matthew Holliday, spokesman for the International Commission on Missing Persons (ICMP) in The Hague, told Reuters. [goes on to say it could be much much higher]

πŸ›« Eurocontrol will provide Ukraine and Moldova with 46.5 million euros to support air infrastructure
Member States of the European Association for the Safety of Air Navigation (Eurocontrol) have announced the establishment of voluntary solidarity funds to support Member States in the event of air traffic crises due to reasons beyond their control.

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Zelensky is ready to consider options for the non-military return of Crimea, but urges not to waste time on options that do not provide for the de-occupation of the peninsula.

"I understand that everyone is puzzled by the situation and what will happen to Crimea. If someone is ready to offer us a way to de-occupy Crimea by non-military means, I will be only for...

If the solution does not provide for de-occupation and Crimea is part of the Russian Federation, no one should waste their time on it. It is a waste of time," the President said.

He reiterated that there would be no long-term settlement of the war unless Russia withdraws from all the occupied territories.

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ScrollingLeaves · 25/11/2022 11:34

Sorry, I wanted to explain that my question
arose because Kimmitt said β€œ well beyond” the front lines. Well beyond the Russian lines on the east of the Dnipro river is in Russia, and, in the north, in Belarus. So I wondered if Kimmitt really could have meant this.

From what you say, it would seem not and I read that part over-literally.

MissConductUS · 25/11/2022 11:48

ScrollingLeaves · 25/11/2022 11:34

Sorry, I wanted to explain that my question
arose because Kimmitt said β€œ well beyond” the front lines. Well beyond the Russian lines on the east of the Dnipro river is in Russia, and, in the north, in Belarus. So I wondered if Kimmitt really could have meant this.

From what you say, it would seem not and I read that part over-literally.

Was he hinting at strikes on Russian territory? Possibly, there have been a few. But I think it may just be a question of perspective. To me, 20-30km would be "well beyond" the front lines.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 25/11/2022 14:00

VisegrΓ‘d 24
@visegrad24
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2h
Germany will officially recognise the Holodomor, the Soviet artificial famine against the population of Ukraine in the years 1932-1933 which killed between three and five million Ukrainians, as genocide.

ScrollingLeaves · 25/11/2022 15:29

MissConductUSΒ· Today 11:48

^ScrollingLeaves Β· Today 11:34
Sorry, I wanted to explain that my question
arose because Kimmitt said β€œ well beyond” the front lines. Well beyond the Russian lines on the east of the Dnipro river is in Russia, and, in the north, in Belarus. So I wondered if Kimmitt really could have meant this.^

From what you say, it would seem not and I read that part over-literally.

Was he hinting at strikes on Russian territory? Possibly, there have been a few. But I think it may just be a question of perspective. To me, 20-30km would be "well beyond" the front lines.

Thank you MissConduct, I can see I was mistaking his meaning of β€œwell beyond”.

L1ttledrummergirl · 25/11/2022 16:45

My twitter feed seems full of a poster- Authoriseukrainenow, I've not noticed them before but they appear to be advocating for attacking Russia. They made a joke about Russian generators going boom rather than bridges which made me wonder if @RedToothBrush knows anything about them?

ScrollingLeaves · 25/11/2022 17:18

L1ttledrummergirl Β· Today 16:45
My twitter feed seems full of a poster- Authoriseukrainenow, I've not noticed them before but they appear to be advocating for attacking Russia. They made a joke about Russian generators going boom rather than bridges which made me wonder if @RedToothBrush knows anything about them?

From what I have read on replies on this thread, that would be a bad idea how ever tantalisingly unfair these one-sided Russian attacks on Ukraine’s infrastructure are.

I thought this from Ukraine Twitter was a good message, though it is not real mitigation of the present horror.

^Light is not about light bulbs - it is about
hearts.^

Heat is not about batteries, it's about hugs.

^Communication is not about a phone, it's
about relationships.^

^No russian missile can take that away from
us.^
#Ukraine

twitter.com/SotnykOlena/status/1595825779450978304?s=20&t=n8u9JDe6F4PJLf0W4p-WBQ

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L1ttledrummergirl · 25/11/2022 17:58

Thats what I thought, I was concerned by these posts as they seem to have come from nowhere, until I read the references about bridges. Now I'm confused and thinking I've missed something.

Greenshake · 26/11/2022 10:09

Surprised to see the public criticism of Klitschko by Zelenskyy

OwlsDance · 26/11/2022 10:20

I watched an interview with Mikhailo Podolyak, he's one of Zelensky's advisors. He was saying that the Russian units that are holding the front line around Donetsk in particular, are the only units that are still capable of some sort of defense. Once they are defeated, the whole front will collapse like a house of cards, including Crimea. There will be Kharkiv style mass exodus of Russian troops.

I think it's a quite believable scenario. Ukraine kept saying quite early on how they won't have to fight for Kherson. And they did it. I think they can see just how close to collapse Russian army is. The crack in the dam gets bigger by the minute, and there comes a point when there's nothing you can do to stop the rush of water.

ScrollingLeaves · 26/11/2022 10:26

OwlsDance Β· Today 10:20
I so hope you are right, and also hope that Russia will not react in panic as a result.

DesdamonasHandkerchief · 26/11/2022 11:15

Oh wouldn't that be good OwlsDance.
Still worries me what the Kremlin are capable of doing to save face though.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 26/11/2022 11:41

ISW Key Takeaways

www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/ukraine-conflict-updates

Another excellent one to read in full, but here are the highlights:

Key Takeaways

Reports of a group of understaffed and ill-supplied mobilized personnel are dividing the Russian information space.

President Vladimir Putin falsely presented a meeting with hand-picked women as an open discussion with mothers of mobilized personnel.

An investigation by Forbes’ Ukrainian service revealed that the war in Ukraine has had a serious financial impact on the Russian Federation’s annual budget.

The Russian MoD may have increased the frequency of POW exchanges to soothe discontent in the Russian information space.

A Ukrainian official confirmed that Ukrainian forces killed Iranian military advisors in Russian-occupied Crimea and threatened to target Iranian military presence on Ukrainian territory.

Russian military leadership may be circulating a document stating that Russia needs to mobilize five million personnel to win the war in Ukraine, which Russia cannot do.

Russian forces conducted limited counterattacks to regain lost positions northwest of Svatove and Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations toward Kreminna.

Russian forces continued to conduct offensive operations in the Bakhmut and Avdiivka areas, and influential Russian figures may be setting informational conditions to deflect blame for a lack of progress in the Bakhmut area.

Russian forces continued to establish defenses south of the Dnipro River in Kherson Oblast and around critical ground lines of communication (GLOCs) connecting Crimea to southern Kherson Oblast.

Russian sources and officials continue attempts to shape the narrative around a likely second partial mobilization while denying the potential for general mobilization.

Russian officials are continuing efforts to stimulate demographic change in occupied areas of Ukraine by deporting Ukrainian residents and replacing them with imported Russian citizens.

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The New York Times: Nearly a third of the 350 artillery pieces that Western countries have supplied to Ukraine are out of service. To fix this problem, the United States has deployed a repair base in Poland.

Today is the Holodomor Remembrance Day πŸ•―οΈ
*an act of genocide of the Ukrainian people, organized by the leadership of the CPSU (b) and the government of the USSR in 1932-1933 by creating an artificial mass famine.
holodomormuseum.org.ua/en/holodomor-remembrance-day/

Belarus Weekly: Ukraine says Moscow to strike Belarus in 'false flag' operation (kyivindependent.com/regional/belarus-weekly-ukraine-says-moscow-to-strike-belarus-in-false-flag-operation)
Ukraine's Intelligence Directorate says Russia plans to stage a series of provocations aimed at Belarus’ critical infrastructure and blame it on Ukraine.
The directorate said Russia will likely conduct false flag operations in Belarus’ Hrodno and Brest regions, bordering Ukraine and the European Union.

⚑️Ukrenergo: Ukraine to import (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/ukrenergo-ukraine-to-import-electricity-from-eu-nov-25) electricity from EU.

⚑️National Resistance Center: 12,000 Russian troops deployed (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/national-resistance-center-12-000-russian-troops-deployed-in-belarus) in Belarus.
[there are more rumours now that Belarus may enter the war, which seem to have a harder tone than in the early months]

⚑️Ukrainian authorities evacuate (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/ukrainian-authorities-evacuate-hospital-patients-from-kherson-amid-russian-attacks) hospital patients from Kherson amid Russian attacks.
According to Kherson Oblast Governor Yaroslav Yanushevych, children and psychiatric patients have already been evacuated from some of the hospitals in Kherson to Odesa and Mykolaiv. [since Russians seem to be targetting hospitals now]

⚑️Security Service: Leaders of Moscow Orthodox Church in Chernivtsi have Russian passports (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/security-service-leaders-of-moscow-orthodox-church-in-chernivtsi-have-russian-passports).
Law enforcement also found Moscow's manuals on conducting services after the start of the full-scale invasion. Representatives of the church were instructed to misinform parishioners about the socio-political situation in Ukraine and the situation at the front, according to the report. [Seems like the Church, riddled with Russian agents, has actively been misleading people]

In the Kyiv office of the Dzhokhar Dudayev Battalion, two flags hang on the wall next to each other: the yellow-and-blue flag of Ukraine and the green-white-and-red flag of the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria.
The battalion, named for the first president of the short-lived Chechen republic, Dzhokhar Dudayev, who led the republic’s drive for independence from Russia before his assassination in 1996, has been fighting for Ukraine since the start of Russia's invasion in 2014.

⚑️Official: South Korea to provide (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/official-south-korea-to-provide-high-voltage-generators-for-ukraine) 20 high-voltage generators for Ukraine.

IAEA: All Ukraine-controlled nuclear power plants reconnected to the country's power grid (https://kyivindependent.com/news-feed/iaea-all-ukraine-controlled-nuclear-power-plants-reconnected-to-the-countrys-power-grid)
The power units of three Ukraine-controlled nuclear plants were automatically disconnected from the power grid following Russia's Nov. 23 mass missile strikes on Ukraine.

⚑️Speaking of Russian military casualties, Putin says 'death is inevitable.'
"In our country, about 30,000 people die in road accidents (per year). About the same number die from alcohol," he said. "We are all mortal, and someday we will all leave this world. It is inevitable."

⚑️Ukrenergo: Ukraine still faces 30% electricity shortage after Russian missile attack.

Azerbaijan will help the Ukrainian energy sector, in particular, in the supply of electrical equipment, β€” Azerbaijani Energy Minister Parviz Shahbazov. [!]

⚑️Norway provides Ukraine with winter clothing, howitzer in new military aid package.
The package includes 55,000 units of winter clothing, an M109 self-propelled howitzer, and spare parts for military equipment repairs, the country's government announced on Nov. 25.
The package also includes individual first-aid kits and 30,000 field rations.

⚑️EU will give Ukraine 200 transformers, 40 heavy generators to support energy sector.
"Each of these generators can provide uninterrupted power to a small to medium-sized hospital," she said.

France is sending a hundred powerful generators to Ukraine, said Foreign Minister Catherine Colonna

⚑️Zelensky: Ukraine restores electricity for half of those affected by Nov. 23 missile attack.

⚑️ Ukrainian delegation to boycott OSCE parliamentary assembly.
Ukraine’s Verkhovna Rada permanent delegation to the OSCE parliamentary assembly will boycott the parliamentary assembly after the standing committee failed to change the rules to expel Russia, member of the delegation Yevheniia Kravchuk said.

⚑️ Stoltenberg: β€˜NATO will continue to stand with Ukraine for as long as it takes’

⚑️ General Staff: Ukraine repels Russian attacks near 8 settlements over past 24 hours.

⚑️Kyiv authorities: 130,000 Kyiv residents remain without electricity.

⚑️Polish Prime Minister arrives in Kyiv, commemorates victims of Holodomor.

In addition to the Polish Prime Minister, Lithuanian Prime Minister Ε imonytΔ— arrived to Kyiv.
They signed a joint statement supporting the launch of negotiations on Ukraine's accession to the EU.

Zelenskyy: 'I welcome Prime Minister of Belgium Alexander De Croo in Ukraine! Let's start negotiations. I am sure they will be very substantive and useful for both our countries.'

Armenia challenges Putin as his influence with allies wanes β€” The Guardian
Armenia has asked French President Emmanuel Macron to lead peace talks with Azerbaijan. And this was a challenge to Russian President Vladimir Putin, which indicates the loss of control over regional allies. [ There are rumours Armenia is seeking warmer ties with Turkey which is a massive change, given the terrible occurrences of the early 20th century]

❗️The Belgian Council of Ministers has approved the delivery of ten unmanned underwater vehicles and two mobile laboratories to Ukraine, said Defense Minister Ludivine Dedonder.

NATO has handed over silencers to Ukraine to protect against Russian drone attacks, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said.

UNITED24 Media:

⚑️Hungarian President Katalin Novak will visit Kyiv very soon at the invitation of Volodymyr Zelensky, the Hungarian Index reports. [if true as reported by UNITED24Media, this should be interesting!]

USAID donated 80 generators to Ukraine, U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Bridget Brink said

Ukraine will send humanitarian aid to African and Asian countries
We are talking about grain of wheat or corn with a total volume of up to 125 thousand tons.

THere are rumours again about Germany, Poland and the Patriot system but nothing concrete.

Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal said that there is not a single thermal and hydroelectric power plant in Ukraine that has not been subjected to shelling by Russia.

Live: Ukraine
[not quite as reliable a source than Kyiv Independent imo but still worth reading]

The Spectator: The US has banned Poland from transferring Soviet MiG-29 jets to Ukraine, while China has promised to "neutralize Putin's nuclear threat".
Initially, the US reacted positively to Poland's idea to transfer its Soviet MiG-29 fighters to the Ukrainian army. But the very next day, March 8, the Americans opposed such a transfer.
The reason for this was contacts with generals of the Chinese army. They believed that this would lead to an escalation of the conflict, so they called on the United States to prevent it. Instead, Chinese generals, who had good private contacts with Russian generals, promised to do everything possible to "neutralize Putin's nuclear threat".
Their efforts were aimed at convincing Russian generals, if ordered to use nuclear weapons, either to persuade the political leadership not to do so, in accordance with Russia's nuclear doctrine, or to sabotage the execution of this order at their own level.

Montenegro supports Ukraine on the way to NATO, - Ministry of Defense of the country

Prague is donating hundreds of pieces of equipment to help provide light and heat in Kyiv and Mykolaiv while the infrastructure is being restored after Russian missile strikes, as well as equipment for medical institutions.

In response to Prigozhin's "bloody sledgehammer" for the European Parliament, Estonian Foreign Minister said he would send handcuffs to The Hague to wait there for the owner of the Wagner PMC to be held accountable for crimes in Ukraine

Kazakhstan is negotiating with the United States to export oil bypassing Russia, US Ambassador to Astana Daniel Rosenblum said. [another indication that Kazakhstan is detaching a bit from Russia]

Foreign companies help Russia to direct missiles at Ukraine - Ukrainian intelligence
To guide missiles, Russia uses its own development GLONASS, an analogue of GPS, it was created in 1982 by order of the USSR Ministry of Defense.
According to intelligence, GLONASS depends on microchips produced by foreign companies. Usually, these are civilian chips, but Russians use them for military purposes. The chips receive and process coordinates from GLONASS, and missiles use this information to navigate in space and target Ukrainian civilian and energy infrastructure.
The Defence Intelligence of Ukraine has published (t.me/DIUkraine/1686) a list of foreign companies that continue to produce microchips with GLONASS support. The list includes companies from the USA, Switzerland, Canada, Belgium and Great Britain. Without foreign-made GLONASS-enabled chips, Russians will have to build their own microelectronics from scratch, the intelligence officers noted.

β–ͺ️British Foreign Secretary Cleverly visited Kyiv and announced new aid for Ukraine worth Β£50 million: the package will include emergency vehicles and armored vehicles. [this may be a repeat, sorry; the amount that countries give to support Ukraine is so much that sometimes I forget!]

Russia plans to stabilize the front in Ukraine in winter, and to resume active hostilities in spring, in connection with which the Kremlin expects that irrecoverable losses of mobilized people will amount to about 100 thousand people - Russian media

Deputy head of the OP Tymoshenko said that electricity supply was restored to Kherson.

The Russian losses are a little up again.

It's been a while and I hope the quackies add a lighter note ... we have no grass any more, and the little gits are digging remarkably deep holes.

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MissConductUS · 26/11/2022 13:05

OwlsDance · 26/11/2022 10:20

I watched an interview with Mikhailo Podolyak, he's one of Zelensky's advisors. He was saying that the Russian units that are holding the front line around Donetsk in particular, are the only units that are still capable of some sort of defense. Once they are defeated, the whole front will collapse like a house of cards, including Crimea. There will be Kharkiv style mass exodus of Russian troops.

I think it's a quite believable scenario. Ukraine kept saying quite early on how they won't have to fight for Kherson. And they did it. I think they can see just how close to collapse Russian army is. The crack in the dam gets bigger by the minute, and there comes a point when there's nothing you can do to stop the rush of water.

It's possible, and the Ukrainians certainly have the best intelligence about the deployment and operational readiness of the Ru forces. But bear in mind that with all of the territory they've lost, the Russians are defending a much smaller area, and the airborne troops they pulled out of Kherson have been redeployed to the areas they still hold. They also now have shorter, more reliable supply lines to Russia.

I think it's doable, but it won't be the walkover that Kharkiv was.

ScrollingLeaves · 26/11/2022 13:15

Thank you for these key takeaways, ReleaseTheDucks.
Re,

The Defence Intelligence of Ukraine has published (t.me/DIUkraine/1686) a list of foreign companies that continue to produce microchips with GLONASS support. The list includes companies from the USA, Switzerland, Canada, Belgium and Great Britain. Without foreign-made GLONASS-enabled chips, Russians will have to build their own microelectronics from scratch, the intelligence officers noted

I wonder if these companies could be prevented from doing this, or are they not the ones responsible for actually supplying Russia?

Cookerdog · 26/11/2022 13:31

The Defence Intelligence of Ukraine has published (t.me/DIUkraine/1686) a list of foreign companies that continue to produce microchips with GLONASS support. The list includes companies from the USA, Switzerland, Canada, Belgium and Great Britain. Without foreign-made GLONASS-enabled chips, Russians will have to build their own microelectronics from scratch, the intelligence officers noted.

The UK company is Antenova Limited. It is based at 2 Chancellor Court Occam Road, Surrey Research Park, Guildford, England, GU2 7AH. The directors are Paul Howard Neville, Simon Gibbins (who were both appointed on 25/08/2021) and Paul Stuart Hill.

A company called ACAL Electronics Limited has a significant stake in Antenova. The director of ACAL is Gregory Davidson-Shine, a solicitor. He is also the director of 17 other companies, many in the electronics sector, that are connected with this address.

Discoverie Group plc have effective 100% voting control over Antenova Limited. The plc is traded on the London Stock Exchange and the largest shareholders are institutional funds, including Abrdn (formerly Standard Life Aberdeen), Blackrock and Legal & General.

The auditors are PwC.

This information is freely available from Companies House, the website of Discoverie Group plc and the London Stock Exchange.

ScrollingLeaves · 26/11/2022 14:01

Cookerdog Β· Today 13:31
Do we know if they are knowingly and intentionally selling these to Russia?

OwlsDance · 26/11/2022 14:14

Russia has been a relatively closed economy for a very long time. Even if it was 30 years ago, the knowledge is still there. They can quite easily set up a shell company somewhere like Kazakhstan and purchase whatever need that way. It's not always very clear where your product is going to end up. So I wouldn't jump to conclusions that all these companies are doing this knowingly. They could, however, dig deeper if they cared.

Cookerdog · 26/11/2022 14:15

No, and nor should we rush to any conclusions on that.

My post above was to link the company named in the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine's list to information that is publicly available in the UK. This information is available due to statute, legitimate interest or because the company or its parent has made it available.

In doing so I am assisting in raising it above the parapet. If the report is incorrect the company can always challenge it and ask the DIU for evidence, however because this post is merely factual information I do not see how it can be challenged.