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Hate when authors do this

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thinkponk48 · 02/11/2022 10:48

Don't get characters ages correct. In the book I'm reading a female character has been to university, worked as a teacher for a bit, met married and bought a house with someone and then had a child.

Eventually her son moves abroad for a job and she's an empty nester at 38! So ridiculous should be at least 45.

I know it's a silly thing but it's ruined the book for me

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BIWI · 03/11/2022 15:37

@OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow

We love the Slough House books, but there’s a pretty significant slip up in the first book that the whole reason that River Cartwright is in the Slow Horses hangs on

What is it?! We love Mick Herron too - but I've never noticed this!

RambamThankyouMam · 03/11/2022 15:42

Brefugee · 03/11/2022 14:14

not so much authors but i see there are some people from the publishing industry here:

Blurbs. I want the blurb back. If i see an interesting looking book i pick it up and either look inside the cover (hardback) or the back (paperback). And i expect a paragraph about the book's contents. But increasingly (or more accurately these days: exclusively) it is full of gushing reviews giving zero clue about the novel, and they are by a bunch of authors who are apparently making an industry out of gushing reviews of each others' books. It goes back on the shelf.

Why? why? I'm begging you: please stop it.

And the reviews are invariably by Marian sodding Keyes. That woman must be reading new releases from the moment she wakes up until she goes to bed at night.

BIWI · 03/11/2022 15:45

VickerishAllsort · 02/11/2022 20:02

In every book I've ever read where someone is barefoot they are described as 'padding'. It boils my piss something awful and I have to stifle the impulse to chuck it at the wall.

@VickerishAllsort you need to come over to this thread!

Brefugee · 03/11/2022 15:52

And the reviews are invariably by Marian sodding Keyes. That woman must be reading new releases from the moment she wakes up until she goes to bed at night.

I never really notice, because i hurl them back on the shelf (1). But one day last week i got really annoyed enough to speak to the sales person: there was a blurb. Oh frabjous day. They had stuck their fucking giant price sticker over it. Fuckers.

(1) actually i carefully replace them

stuntbubbles · 03/11/2022 15:54

Don’t get me started on Waterstones’s fucking stickers! Those things could survive a nuclear apocalypse.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 03/11/2022 16:05

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 03/11/2022 15:32

Lots of countries (eg Ireland) don't even have fixed ages for school years. It's not unusual for there to be more than two years between the oldest and youngest of a secondary school year here, so even stating the year doesn't confer much information about the age of the child.

I can probably work it out approximately for American grade, but they also use words that Americans understand and nobody else does. Like wtf age is a child who is a sophomore or freshman, and what ages do they attend middle school/junior high/high school?

The context, creepy though it invariably is, gives an idea.

Middle school - time for a girl to have her first sweet little boyfriend.
Junior High - time for her to have her first kiss and unsuitable boyfriend who is dumped either by her or frightened off by her Dad, after which she runs off, but Daddy rescues her from him by the end of the story when she cries into his manly chest 'I'm so sorry Daddy, you were right!'
Sophomore - probably a virgin at the start of the book/film, definitely not by the end if she wasn't lying about it in the first place.
Freshman - fucking all over the place. A place generally covered with red plastic cups for some reason.

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 03/11/2022 16:20

HauntersGonnaHaunt · 02/11/2022 20:45

I had a neighbour called Colin. He must have been born around 1995.

I had a Tracey and a Colin in my class at secondary school in the 90s. Both the only one in the year but they existed.

There was a Sandra a year below us too.

It wasn't all Claire and Joanne

Bideshi · 03/11/2022 16:23

shinynewapple22 · 03/11/2022 14:23

I think Alys is Welsh spelling of Alice - in which case it wouldn't be out of place if that's where the character originated .

Is Peggy Welsh? I didn't pick that up. I thought she was cockney. Oh well, in that case.... It annoys me more that Alys is always referred to and addressed as 'Kid' to be honest. Nice book though. I enjoyed it.
She does refer to a 'Road trip' in the 1950s though.

Bideshi · 03/11/2022 16:48

CaptainMyCaptain · 03/11/2022 08:32

I liked the book and didn't try to hard to make things 'add up' but the parrot was a stupid idea.

The parrot was awful. Magical realism has a lot to answer for.

shinynewapple22 · 03/11/2022 16:58

@Bideshi - Peggy- shortened name for Margaret. For what it's worth - my dad had a cousin called Peggy - would have been born late 1920s - dad's family came from South Wales - although they later moved from the area and his cousin lived in London. I don't know if the name Peggy is generally associated more with one area than another .

Brefugee · 03/11/2022 17:18

Peggy is the 2nd pirate in the Swallows & Amazons books, the first of which was published in 1930

Bideshi · 03/11/2022 17:20

shinynewapple22 · 03/11/2022 16:58

@Bideshi - Peggy- shortened name for Margaret. For what it's worth - my dad had a cousin called Peggy - would have been born late 1920s - dad's family came from South Wales - although they later moved from the area and his cousin lived in London. I don't know if the name Peggy is generally associated more with one area than another .

No it's not. My grandmother from Pitlochry was Peg. Born 1900. I think it was pretty general. There were several people with Auntie Peggy's when I was at school (Northamptonshire).

Bideshi · 03/11/2022 17:22

Oh dear🙄Greengrocer's apostrophe. Sigh.

PollyAmour · 03/11/2022 17:26

JestersTear · 03/11/2022 13:05

What annoyed me about the first BJ book was that the author put an actual weight in there. So all the way through, she's losing and gaining, losing and gaining and calling herself fat etc, then we find out how much she actually weighs and it's a normal size. As a plus-sized person, I'd been able to imagine that she might have been like me, until that.

She was only about 9st 7lb as well, wasn't she? I found that aspect of the book really unsettling, claiming an adult female should weigh less than 10 stone.
Bridget isn't meant to be 5ft nothing is she? She wouldn't have been the least bit fat. Helen F should have made her 12 stone at the very least.

PollyannaWhittier · 03/11/2022 17:32

TheYearOfSmallThings · 02/11/2022 22:17

Miss Silver's maid's name changes from Emma to Hannah and back again over the course of the series. 😬

I thought I was the only person in the world nerdy enough to notice this! Greetings my friend!

Haha, likewise Grin
I mentioned it to my mum and she hadn't noticed, then I googled and couldn't find any mention online either ! I'm glad I'm not the only one !

Lemevoir · 03/11/2022 17:37

A true proofread should be the absolute final check before a book is published. Literally the proofs with all the layout, page numbers, chapter headings, running heads in place are checked.

Nothing should be going to an editor after being proofread. Or more to the point, no book should be proofread before it has gone through at least one round of editing.

Not sure what stage a beta read would be, but it should be much earlier than at proofreading stage where nothing other than actual spelling/grammatical mistakes should be fixed.

Hate when authors do this
HauntersGonnaHaunt · 03/11/2022 20:33

Brefugee · 03/11/2022 14:14

not so much authors but i see there are some people from the publishing industry here:

Blurbs. I want the blurb back. If i see an interesting looking book i pick it up and either look inside the cover (hardback) or the back (paperback). And i expect a paragraph about the book's contents. But increasingly (or more accurately these days: exclusively) it is full of gushing reviews giving zero clue about the novel, and they are by a bunch of authors who are apparently making an industry out of gushing reviews of each others' books. It goes back on the shelf.

Why? why? I'm begging you: please stop it.

This.

I don't give a shite if Stephen King thought the book was amazing. Just give me a blurb.

Kanaloa · 03/11/2022 21:21

PollyAmour · 03/11/2022 17:26

She was only about 9st 7lb as well, wasn't she? I found that aspect of the book really unsettling, claiming an adult female should weigh less than 10 stone.
Bridget isn't meant to be 5ft nothing is she? She wouldn't have been the least bit fat. Helen F should have made her 12 stone at the very least.

But that’s the point of the book. She’s obsessed with 90s size 0 conditioning. The whole point is that Bridget isn’t the least bit fat. She’s obsessing over nothing.

PollyAmour · 04/11/2022 16:08

Kanaloa · 03/11/2022 21:21

But that’s the point of the book. She’s obsessed with 90s size 0 conditioning. The whole point is that Bridget isn’t the least bit fat. She’s obsessing over nothing.

My concern is, that as the book was massively popular, even before it was made into a film, is that gullible women would believe that weighing less than 10 stone in adulthood was expected. Someone told me recently that in the reprints, her weight is in kg, not stones and pounds, and a more realist weight for an adult woman fretting about being overweight.

Kanaloa · 04/11/2022 16:13

PollyAmour · 04/11/2022 16:08

My concern is, that as the book was massively popular, even before it was made into a film, is that gullible women would believe that weighing less than 10 stone in adulthood was expected. Someone told me recently that in the reprints, her weight is in kg, not stones and pounds, and a more realist weight for an adult woman fretting about being overweight.

I mean I think that’s a lot to put on a novel. In that case I suppose it should be changed so as to not promote heavy drinking/poor relationships etc.

Righthandcider · 04/11/2022 16:49

LeavesOnTrees · 02/11/2022 11:27

I hate when authors write trying to blatantly get a film deal.

How can you tell??? (Asking for a friend.)

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 04/11/2022 17:00

How about Patricia Cornwell and the weird passage of time?

Where Lucy ages approximately three years for every year Kay ages?

PollyAmour · 04/11/2022 18:06

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 04/11/2022 17:00

How about Patricia Cornwell and the weird passage of time?

Where Lucy ages approximately three years for every year Kay ages?

I thought it was just me that noticed that!!

Thank you!

burnoutbabe · 04/11/2022 18:18

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 04/11/2022 17:00

How about Patricia Cornwell and the weird passage of time?

Where Lucy ages approximately three years for every year Kay ages?

I mean she must be 60-65 but she is still shagging Benton every time she sees him.

(Less said about her being matey with the guy who attempted to rape her the better! The last book was awful, killing off a ton of lesser characters via covid!)

Underroad · 04/11/2022 20:07

Kanaloa · 03/11/2022 21:21

But that’s the point of the book. She’s obsessed with 90s size 0 conditioning. The whole point is that Bridget isn’t the least bit fat. She’s obsessing over nothing.

I read it when I was around 21-22 and didn’t ‘get’ that we were supposed to think that she was being daft for obsessing about her weight when she wasn’t actually fat. I took it as she was a bit fat at her tiny weight and it made me feel quite panicky because I had a bit of an eating disorder but still weighed more than her (I have always been a fair bit heavier than I look. I look very unwell at 9.5 stone whereas that’s an ideal weight for many women of my height). I remember the feeling of shame that I was heavier than a ‘fat’ character even though I barely ate. I wasn’t an unintelligent person, I just lacked the awareness of that sort of wryness at that age. I think I’d have understood what I was meant to think more if I’d been over 30 when I first read it.

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