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Hate when authors do this

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thinkponk48 · 02/11/2022 10:48

Don't get characters ages correct. In the book I'm reading a female character has been to university, worked as a teacher for a bit, met married and bought a house with someone and then had a child.

Eventually her son moves abroad for a job and she's an empty nester at 38! So ridiculous should be at least 45.

I know it's a silly thing but it's ruined the book for me

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Novemberhater · 03/11/2022 10:29

My ultimate hate in a book is in Dan Brown's The Da Vinci Code. There is a character with albinism who is a sharp shooter.

I have a DGD with this condition. She is partially sighted and cannot see more than a few yards and that's not clearly. She will never be able to drive, let alone use a gun. She actually got better vision than most people with albinism.

Nobody with this disability could ever do what the character does in the book as they all have an under developed optic nerve. I lasted a few chapters as I was so upset at this depiction.

thinkponk48 · 03/11/2022 12:03

The book I'm reading is forever home by Graham Norton. I have enjoyed his other books but this is getting on my nerves

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Bideshi · 03/11/2022 12:04

alongtimeagoandfaraway · 03/11/2022 00:35

The 1956 film’High Society’ has a song about Samantha (an
adult female character in the film).

The name became popular in the 1960s - TV series ‘Bewitched’ helped- but the name had been around since at least the 17th century

Yeah it did. It also had a heroine called Tracey. That didn't come in here until the 60s here either. You can always find exceptions if you go looking. Nevertheless an upper class gal in wartime Britain would have been Diana, Pamela, Caroline. Mitfordy sort of names or Churchillian daughters. Not hard to get right. It grated every time.
I suspect the rare occurrences of the name always had slightly witchy connotations which is why it was picked up for 'Bewitched'.
No Dorises in my classes at school in the 60s. Plenty of Lindas, Bridgets, Margarets and Rosemarys.

Pemba · 03/11/2022 12:18

The film High Society (released in 1956 and set in the USA, east coast I believe) had a heroine named Tracey Samantha, and it is THE reason why Tracey became a popular girl's name here in the UK in the 1960s, that's what I read in my baby names book. And to a lesser extent, Samantha (although Bewitched also had something to do with that).

Probably Tracey was pretty much unknown as a girls' name, at least in the UK, before the film. The character was played by Grace Kelly and was very beautiful and sophisticated, so probably it was an image that parents liked.

Actually there was a character in Dickens named Tracy i think, but it was a man! (The Pickwick Papers).

EllesB · 03/11/2022 12:27

SenecaFallsRedux · 03/11/2022 09:58

We have tornadoes in Florida, as well as hurricanes. We even have a desigated interior room in our house to take cover in the event of a tornado warning.

Yes, I know that. The point was that the author clearly contextually meant hurricanes but used tornadoes instead because she had no idea what she was talking about. That's why it was funny.

UndertheStares · 03/11/2022 12:35

OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow · 02/11/2022 19:20

Why? My friends mum, similar age is called Alys.
We love the Slough House books, but there’s a pretty significant slip up in the first book that the whole reason that River Cartwright is in the Slow Horses hangs on.

Oh no, @OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow ! What’s the error? I love those books.

PineappleWilson · 03/11/2022 12:40

@NeverDropYourMooncup all the children stayed young didn't they (looking at you Ernest). A few new young children appeared, and that dreadful boy who killed the robin, but otherwise she had the same children from when she started teaching until she retired, bar a couple who got grammar school places.

stuntbubbles · 03/11/2022 12:46

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 02/11/2022 22:33

I read a book a few years ago where the protagonist wore Dr Martin shoes. Anyone who has them will see Dr Marten written on them!!

There’s an author I gave up on because she ALWAYS refers to characters wearing “Converses” instead of “Converse” and they all shop at “Top Shop” instead of “Topshop”, it drove me bats.

I’ve been on both sides of this – as author and as editor, proofreader, copy-editor. The problem is no one is paid nearly enough or has nearly enough time. Most authors aren’t doing it as their day job and will get sent the proofed manuscript or the copy edits with a really tiny window to turn it around, alongside their day job/children/life/whatever; meanwhile the editors all have a million books on their plate and are close to burnout. None of us set out to do a terrible job!

JestersTear · 03/11/2022 13:05

PollyAmour · 02/11/2022 14:39

Did anyone read the third Brigit Jones book, the one that didn't get made into a film? Colin Firth had married her, fathered two children, then died. Brigit was having a hot affair with a younger musician. She had two primary school aged children, but was 51, which would have meant she waited 10+ years before having children, and in the first two books she was meant to be in her 30's already, wasn't she?

The book was called Mad About The Boy and I think Helen Fielding wishes she had never written it.

I KNOW Brigit isn't a real person, but I became irrationally annoyed by this book 😞

What annoyed me about the first BJ book was that the author put an actual weight in there. So all the way through, she's losing and gaining, losing and gaining and calling herself fat etc, then we find out how much she actually weighs and it's a normal size. As a plus-sized person, I'd been able to imagine that she might have been like me, until that.

stuntbubbles · 03/11/2022 13:09

PumpkinSpiceLatay · 02/11/2022 18:43

is anyone on ‘booktok’?

The men in these romance books are ridiculous. They’re all ‘growling’. Are they BEARS?

Theres a really popular booktok book where the man is LICKING HER BUTT without consent/as a surprise after they’ve been shopping or something and I just can’t get them out of my head.

Is that the one where she’s a vapid LA heiress banished to a small port town and he’s a preternaturally giant and hairy sea captain who permanently smells of fish, and she also butt fingers him without consent? Top read.

JestersTear · 03/11/2022 13:20

@IWantAdventureInTheGreatWideSomewhere

"splice their commas and dangle their modifiers"

Sounds painful...

PumpkinSpiceLatay · 03/11/2022 13:28

stuntbubbles · 03/11/2022 13:09

Is that the one where she’s a vapid LA heiress banished to a small port town and he’s a preternaturally giant and hairy sea captain who permanently smells of fish, and she also butt fingers him without consent? Top read.

Ding ding ding that’s the one

Kanaloa · 03/11/2022 13:50

Just thought of another one, but a bit out there as not many people have read it - I read a wonderful book called ‘A Step From Heaven’ years ago, all about a Korean immigrant family and their life in America. The writer was American. Unfortunately, I was distracted by the fact that all the way through the book, the protagonist’s younger brother calls her by the honorific that would only be appropriate for a younger sister to call an older sister, rather than the one appropriate for a younger brother to older sister. It sounds such a stupid thing, but it bugged me. If I (non Korean speaker) noticed that immediately, then why does the author not notice? Why have they not done the correct research so they don’t have native speakers of a language making mistakes a first year student of that language wouldn’t make?

Betahydroxybutyrate · 03/11/2022 13:59

My pet hate is when they use school years instead of ages.

American - "when I was in 10th grade"
British - "we were in year 7"

JUST WRITE THE FUCKING AGE FFS, WE'RE NOT ALL BRITISH OR AMERICAN.

Brefugee · 03/11/2022 14:14

not so much authors but i see there are some people from the publishing industry here:

Blurbs. I want the blurb back. If i see an interesting looking book i pick it up and either look inside the cover (hardback) or the back (paperback). And i expect a paragraph about the book's contents. But increasingly (or more accurately these days: exclusively) it is full of gushing reviews giving zero clue about the novel, and they are by a bunch of authors who are apparently making an industry out of gushing reviews of each others' books. It goes back on the shelf.

Why? why? I'm begging you: please stop it.

shinynewapple22 · 03/11/2022 14:23

Bideshi · 02/11/2022 13:09

It's having a cloth ear when it comes to names that does it for me. 'Foyle's War' was well-written and well researched but nobody - absolutely nobody - was called Samantha before the 1960s. Jarring.
Then, I liked 'Still Life' (Sarah Winman) but a not particularly wanted child born to a barmaid in last years of the war and called 'Alys'? Just no.

I think Alys is Welsh spelling of Alice - in which case it wouldn't be out of place if that's where the character originated .

CanadianJohn · 03/11/2022 14:28

In the movie 'The Lion in Winter', Henry the Tooth's mistress is called Alys or Alice. I looked her up:
Alys of France, (or Alice) Countess of Vexin (4 October 1160 – c. 1220) was a French princess, the daughter of Louis VII, King of France and his second wife, Constance of Castile.

bongsuhan · 03/11/2022 14:31

stuntbubbles · 03/11/2022 12:46

There’s an author I gave up on because she ALWAYS refers to characters wearing “Converses” instead of “Converse” and they all shop at “Top Shop” instead of “Topshop”, it drove me bats.

I’ve been on both sides of this – as author and as editor, proofreader, copy-editor. The problem is no one is paid nearly enough or has nearly enough time. Most authors aren’t doing it as their day job and will get sent the proofed manuscript or the copy edits with a really tiny window to turn it around, alongside their day job/children/life/whatever; meanwhile the editors all have a million books on their plate and are close to burnout. None of us set out to do a terrible job!

It doesn't only happen where there's not enough money to pay an editor. Tom Clancy wrote a bestselling book with a sub-plot that involved domestic terrorists loading up a big truck with a fertilizer bomb and setting off towards their goal...

Then they are never mentioned again in the rest of the book.

He was one of the world's best selling authors at that point, so I guess editors were considered unnecessary :)

burnoutbabe · 03/11/2022 14:34

Betahydroxybutyrate · 03/11/2022 13:59

My pet hate is when they use school years instead of ages.

American - "when I was in 10th grade"
British - "we were in year 7"

JUST WRITE THE FUCKING AGE FFS, WE'RE NOT ALL BRITISH OR AMERICAN.

See that annoys me in mumsnet too, I have no idea what ages kids are supposed to be (my own school days were many years ago and then senior school was years 1-5 with 6/7 being 6th form/a levels)

Underroad · 03/11/2022 15:12

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 02/11/2022 22:49

I'll see your 'fugue state' and raise you an identical twin that never gets mentioned until a surprise reveal.

Yes! Infuriating! Orrrrr when the twist is that two different characters are actually the same person, which has been undetectable up until this point because the author has cunningly given them a name that can have a seemingly unrelated nickname and they are known to different characters by the different names (e.g. Catherine/Kitty or Alexandra/Sandy or whatever). It gives me the MASSIVE PISS.

FKATondelayo · 03/11/2022 15:14

To add to the Dean pile-on, my friend's boyfriend is a 32 year old Dean.

This is going to bring shame on me but i can't resist. Not a book but on the Literotica site there are loads of stories about hot n horny millennial sorority girls called Pat, Jill and Barbara. It reminds me that all the authors are old boomer men typing them out one handed. Blush

Lullabies2Paralyze · 03/11/2022 15:19

Thir · 02/11/2022 12:18

Different example but similar sort of rage.

I HATE IT when every bloody main character wants to be a 'writer'. Or loves books so much and the character owns a book shop.

And this has no baring to the plot whatsoever. They could have worked as a dental receptionist for all it mattered to the story.

Like......fuck me, be original. I really can't stand it! Haha.

Hahah I think I went through a phase of reading a lot of easy-read chic lit where the MC was unlucky in love and moved to a small coastal village and opened up a mega successful boutique cupcakery….never mind that they probably only had customers during tourist season

TeenDivided · 03/11/2022 15:26

Lullabies2Paralyze · 03/11/2022 15:19

Hahah I think I went through a phase of reading a lot of easy-read chic lit where the MC was unlucky in love and moved to a small coastal village and opened up a mega successful boutique cupcakery….never mind that they probably only had customers during tourist season

That's the plot of pretty much every Katie Fforde book ever isn't it? (Apologies Katie if you read this)

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 03/11/2022 15:32

Betahydroxybutyrate · 03/11/2022 13:59

My pet hate is when they use school years instead of ages.

American - "when I was in 10th grade"
British - "we were in year 7"

JUST WRITE THE FUCKING AGE FFS, WE'RE NOT ALL BRITISH OR AMERICAN.

Lots of countries (eg Ireland) don't even have fixed ages for school years. It's not unusual for there to be more than two years between the oldest and youngest of a secondary school year here, so even stating the year doesn't confer much information about the age of the child.

I can probably work it out approximately for American grade, but they also use words that Americans understand and nobody else does. Like wtf age is a child who is a sophomore or freshman, and what ages do they attend middle school/junior high/high school?

BigFatLiar · 03/11/2022 15:35

TeenDivided · 03/11/2022 15:26

That's the plot of pretty much every Katie Fforde book ever isn't it? (Apologies Katie if you read this)

Did she marry the man who was slightly broken but turns out to be an ex navy seal billionaire recovering from some emotional trauma which she sorts out.