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BlueBar · 2022-10-27T16:15:34+00:00

I don't know where I stand on this one actually. I've been out for lunch. It was busy and there was quite a hubbub of background noise/chat, certainly not silent. There was one table of two couples with young children and (presumably) grandparents. One child, I'd say around a year old was very noisy. High pitched screeching. She wasn't being naughty, she wasn't crying, she was happy/excited. I realise it's practically impossible to stop a child that age making a noise, but would you expect one of the adults to have taken her out of the room for a while? Or, she's only a baby, it's hard, let them all enjoy their meal. FWIW, none of them seemed troubled by the noise, if anything they were enjoying/encouraging it and maybe that's the right thing to do with a happy baby? It was ear piercing though and continued for quite a while.

BonesOfWhatYouBelieve · 27/10/2022 18:39

A baby shrieking wouldn't particularly bother me but I'd find it a bit annoying if the parents were encouraging it. I'd expect some attempt to calm the baby down, but wouldn't really expect them to leave.

Nosleepforthismum · 27/10/2022 18:42

Skinnermarink · 27/10/2022 18:35

I don’t why some posters are incredulous at a firm ‘no’ and screeching not encouraged further in a one year old. Perhaps they should be given more credit. I have an excitable 13 month old and he absolutely can be told ‘no’ firmly and have some compression of it because my expression and demeanour will change. They are not all complete potatoes.

I need your magical powers (or possibly learn your hard stare). I say “NO” and attempt a death stare but it has zero effect. It usually makes him start to laugh so I think I’ve inadvertently made it into a game. Sigh.

richieric · 27/10/2022 18:43

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MsRosley · 27/10/2022 18:18

No one should be forced to put up with your noisy kid. I'm sick of the entitled parents who think otherwise.

If I had baby and it was crying then 100% I would take them out but I'm sick of people being entitled and expect babies just to sit quietly. If it bothers you that much go to somewhere there's less likely to be kids.

Wiluli · 27/10/2022 18:46

I would expect a child that age to be noisy , if you wanted a noise free place there are lots of places that don’t cater for kids . I honestly don’t know what’s wrong with todays society that seems to hate children so much and think they are so entitled to not be around them . Guess what ? We gave all been that baby ! Get over it

Skinnermarink · 27/10/2022 18:46

Nosleepforthismum · 27/10/2022 18:42

I need your magical powers (or possibly learn your hard stare). I say “NO” and attempt a death stare but it has zero effect. It usually makes him start to laugh so I think I’ve inadvertently made it into a game. Sigh.

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I think it’s being a nanny for 12 years pre baby 🤣
Unfortunately if I didn’t use a very firm ‘no’ on him many, many times a day I’d have no working washing machine, the drawers would all be turned out, the dehumidifier would be pushed over, he’d have his hands in the toilet… he’s very fast and a complete trouble maker 😅

Chippy1234 · 27/10/2022 18:46

There are plenty of selfish parents who think their baby screeching or even crying is nothing to do with them. It’s for others to put up with. Don’t dare complain.

ElizabethBest · 27/10/2022 18:47

My DS has profound special needs. Sometimes he shrieks. And you can all go fuck yourselves because I’m going to take him out for meals rather than lock him up at home all the time. Bon appetit, you absolute misanthropes.

Weller123 · 27/10/2022 18:48

Once paid £40 for a babysitter to have a desperately needed break from my own noisy, shrieking toddlers & have a nice evening meal in peace, only to be seated next to somebody else’s noisy, shrieking toddlers 😂! Funny now nearly 10 years later, but I could’ve actually cried at the time.
Surely it’s all about the venue. There are plenty of family orientated restaurants/cafes where you should expect to be surround by children doing their thing, but there are some clearly more adult orientated venues where it is inappropriate and inconsiderate to subject everybody else to your children letting the world know how happy or unhappy they are!!
If I go to a nice restaurant at 8pm then I don’t want to hear it. If I’m eating at 5pm in TGI Fridays, then in my opinion shrieks are fair game!

richieric · 27/10/2022 18:49

ElizabethBest · 27/10/2022 18:47

My DS has profound special needs. Sometimes he shrieks. And you can all go fuck yourselves because I’m going to take him out for meals rather than lock him up at home all the time. Bon appetit, you absolute misanthropes.

Absolutely this!

richieric · 27/10/2022 18:50

Weller123 · 27/10/2022 18:48

Once paid £40 for a babysitter to have a desperately needed break from my own noisy, shrieking toddlers & have a nice evening meal in peace, only to be seated next to somebody else’s noisy, shrieking toddlers 😂! Funny now nearly 10 years later, but I could’ve actually cried at the time.
Surely it’s all about the venue. There are plenty of family orientated restaurants/cafes where you should expect to be surround by children doing their thing, but there are some clearly more adult orientated venues where it is inappropriate and inconsiderate to subject everybody else to your children letting the world know how happy or unhappy they are!!
If I go to a nice restaurant at 8pm then I don’t want to hear it. If I’m eating at 5pm in TGI Fridays, then in my opinion shrieks are fair game!

Why didn't you ask to be moved if it bothered you?

pinkyredrose · 27/10/2022 18:53

Wereeaglesdare · 27/10/2022 18:38

What a bloody miserable bunch you all are. There is nothing more joyful than the sound of a happy baby. Honestly how are you all on a site that celebrate mums but constantly berate them for their tiny children even making a noise? The baby was not crying they were happy unless excessively screaming I don't see your problem. Kids are entitled to a bit of afternoon tea too yano! What would you like them to do tell the young child not to be happy. I honestly despair of the miserable attitudes of this site I wonder if this is the result of people shutting themselves in doors for all this time that they have become selfish and intolerant and not wanting to connect to a wider community. There is purity in children that should be loved and celebrated as we are supposed to be social and live in groups not keep ourselves to ourselves constantly.

Hahahahaha! 😅

ReasonablySane · 27/10/2022 18:54

Why should they have moved? They weren't impacting on others.

It's a question of manners and moderation, in short, respect for others. In this case, it seems that the family with the noisy baby could have taken more care. But perhaps one rule for all isn't the answer either.

Weller123 · 27/10/2022 19:02

richieric · 27/10/2022 18:50

Why didn't you ask to be moved if it bothered you?

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Probably the same reason that I said my meal was nice when it was actually cold. Because I’m English & would rather silently sob into my cold pasta than risk offending a complete stranger 😂!

Dragonskin · 27/10/2022 19:04

Love to hear happy squeals, sounds lovely

To you maybe, to many others it's like nails down a blackboard

Chloefairydust · 27/10/2022 19:12

Weller123 · 27/10/2022 18:48

Once paid £40 for a babysitter to have a desperately needed break from my own noisy, shrieking toddlers & have a nice evening meal in peace, only to be seated next to somebody else’s noisy, shrieking toddlers 😂! Funny now nearly 10 years later, but I could’ve actually cried at the time.
Surely it’s all about the venue. There are plenty of family orientated restaurants/cafes where you should expect to be surround by children doing their thing, but there are some clearly more adult orientated venues where it is inappropriate and inconsiderate to subject everybody else to your children letting the world know how happy or unhappy they are!!
If I go to a nice restaurant at 8pm then I don’t want to hear it. If I’m eating at 5pm in TGI Fridays, then in my opinion shrieks are fair game!

This exactly, you expect it earlier in the day in a family friendly pub or in McDonald’s but not in a fancy restaurant for a late evening meal. And even then having to listen to a toddler shrieking/crying goes for your ears and ruins your meal 🙃

Also have noticed parents with young children in my local pub lately, late in the evening, 9/10pm parents getting pissed whilst their children run around unsupervised or having tantrums and babies crying because they are bored and tired. Some places just are not child appropriate places…

Meseekslookatme · 27/10/2022 19:13

Babbling - fine
The odd grizzle - fine
Baby talk - fine
Shrieking more than a couple of times? Or full blown bawling? Take your kid outside, calm them down. If you can't then go home and attempt it again when they are older.
I'm sick of having things that I've saved up for (because I'm not wealthy) ruined by other people's selfishness.
I have asked to move in the past, if it can't be accommodated I'll leave. If the restaurant want to know why, I'll tell them.
Parent your kids.

Cherrytree77 · 27/10/2022 19:20

You can distract a baby/toddler when they start shrieking. My two year old started it on the bus the other day - we started the 'Mummys on the bus say SHH SHH SHH!' which she whispers.

AddieLoggins2 · 27/10/2022 19:23

What if it wasn't a baby and it was someone with a disability? - Tourettes or a learning disability, for example. Should they have been taken out of the restaurant?

Maybe if you're going to go out in public you should accept that other people will be there and they might not always be as quiet as you would like, or making the type of noises that you personally find palatable.

miltonj · 27/10/2022 19:47

Babies making noises is part of normal life and living as part of a society. It isn't possible that you can go out of the house snd everywhere you go, everything is specifically tailored to you and your preferences and desires.

I don't live in the UK and babies and children are celebrated here. One time, my child accidentally smashed a plate, the waiters applauded her and brought her a chocolate. Even those who are not particularly into kids here, understand that they are part of life, and treat them with kindness and respect.

miltonj · 27/10/2022 19:52

Also there's no 7:30 bed time in this country so kids are out at restaurants and bars till midnight! They're just part of life here.

AnApparitionQuipped · 27/10/2022 19:58

One time, my child accidentally smashed a plate, the waiters applauded her and brought her a chocolate.

That sounds bonkers to me. It was an accident - not something that should be cause for blame or celebration. Just clear up the mess and if necessary, reassure the child that it's nothing to worry about, these things happen. Rewarding it with chocolate might encourage the child to start doing it deliberately. Applause might encourage the child to think applause when someone breaks something is the right response - when for some it would draw most unwelcome attention to the mishap.

Winceybincey · 27/10/2022 20:01

I’ve heard it all now. A baby screeching with joy should be taken outside away from everyone else.

Are babies and kids seriously not allowed to be babies and kids in our society? We’re such an intolerant nation towards little ones and it’s really sad.

IhateHermioneGranger · 27/10/2022 20:07

HailAdrian · 27/10/2022 17:23

Should be seen and not heard, I say.

The 1950's want you back.

HailAdrian · 27/10/2022 20:21

ElizabethBest · 27/10/2022 18:47

My DS has profound special needs. Sometimes he shrieks. And you can all go fuck yourselves because I’m going to take him out for meals rather than lock him up at home all the time. Bon appetit, you absolute misanthropes.

👏 I did ask further upthread about this situation no one responded. 🤷‍♀️

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